MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: stealthwolf on January 10, 2009, 07:45:01 pm

Title: Cameras
Post by: stealthwolf on January 10, 2009, 07:45:01 pm: Has anyone fitted a reverse-parking camera to the RNS-510?

Will it accept only one input or could I fit two cameras, one reverse and one FLIR?

I want the RNS-510 but also want a camera for reverse parking at the very least.
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: cmdrfire on January 11, 2009, 07:49:17 pm: Some the maniacs/geniuses (genii?) on VWNavi have gotten a rear parking camera working with the Golf V. I don't think you can fit a FLIR camera, possibly through the AUX connection like you would a TV?
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: JPC on January 11, 2009, 10:46:55 pm: flir?

sorry for being thick.

i wonder if the mk6 reversing camera can be retrofitted?
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: stealthwolf on January 11, 2009, 11:46:23 pm: FLIR = forward looking infra-red

Jetfighters and the like have them as a way of seeing what's ahead of them without radar switched on.

I think the new Merc has it integrated so you see far ahead of you where normal light can't reach.

I think it'd be cool in the ED30
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: stealthwolf on January 11, 2009, 11:48:07 pm: Quote from: JPC on January 11, 2009, 10:46:55 pm
i wonder if the mk6 reversing camera can be retrofitted?

Is that the same as the passat cc one? Pops out the rear badge? That's what I'm after or even just a normal reverse camera but either way want to be able to connect it to the rns-510
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: JPC on January 12, 2009, 09:25:46 am: youd probably be better off with a mk6 boot release retrofit. if it works!
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: cmdrfire on January 12, 2009, 11:39:57 pm: Quote from: JPC on January 12, 2009, 09:25:46 am
youd probably be better off with a mk6 boot release retrofit. if it works!

Yeah, some of the vwnavi people have gotten a mk6 camera working on a mk5 IIRC. Will look for the thread tomorrow, it's full of europeans speaking english poorly so is a bit difficult to comprehend :P

And the Merc S and CL classes are offered with the FLIR as an option, as are the BMW 5, 6, and 7- series. Works quite well but the image is on the central screen. I think FLIR projected onto the RNS-510 on the console could be distracting!
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: golfman on February 07, 2009, 08:36:17 am: Yeh the mk6 boot release looks promising,ive been talking to people on a german website www.kufatec.de who do there own camera for the RNS510 who will be testing the mk6 boot release on the mk5 hopefully soon
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: snakedog on February 12, 2009, 08:10:28 pm: Can the standard reverse sensors be connected to the RNS 510?
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 08:34:54 pm: Quote from: snakedog on February 12, 2009, 08:10:28 pm
Can the standard reverse sensors be connected to the RNS 510?

Yes I believe so with the correct parking sensor controller fitted, I am currently looking for details on Vwnavi myself :happy2:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 12, 2009, 08:42:20 pm: Quote from: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 08:34:54 pm
Quote from: snakedog on February 12, 2009, 08:10:28 pm
Can the standard reverse sensors be connected to the RNS 510?

Yes I believe so with the correct parking sensor controller fitted, I am currently looking for details on Vwnavi myself :happy2:

i wanti want, steve i dont have sensors on mine, are they plug and play if i added them myself (i.e a plug somewhere and a VCDS session) , or is there wire stripping involved ?
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 08:46:24 pm: The feature is called OPS and was fitted to the loaner Eos a had a couple of weeks ago and was very impressed. It's works in the same way as the BMW graphical parking display on the latest iDrive enabled cars.

Let me find the details, but if you haven't got the sensors then it will be a bit more complex I would think. I will look for the thread now :happy2:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 12, 2009, 08:50:21 pm: im just on ETKA looking at the parts for the sensor parts
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 08:54:19 pm: Details can be found in this thread.

http://vwnavi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7823

You basically need a certain version of the CAN gateway and the right PDC control module and then some VDCS coding from what I can see :happy2:

I am just trying to work out what the part number is of PDC controller I need as it appears my car already has a new enough CAN gateway :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 12, 2009, 08:55:41 pm: ^which thread ?
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 08:56:56 pm: ^^^ doh :ashamed:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 09:01:46 pm: Shaun,

This is effectively what you need but it's not cheap from kufatec: -

http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1230_Park-Pilot-with-OPS---Rear-Retrofit---VW-Golf-5.html
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 12, 2009, 09:09:24 pm: Just seen all that, wonder where it all plugs in !!, i need this in my life :signLOL:, VRStu :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 10:10:03 pm: The controller goes in the boot area on the right hand side IIRC and then all the wires feed out to the bumper from there :happy2:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 12, 2009, 10:27:33 pm: Quote from: SteveP on February 12, 2009, 10:10:03 pm
The controller goes in the boot area on the right hand side IIRC and then all the wires feed out to the bumper from there :happy2:
is the wiring there for the controller ?, and how do I know if my Can is the right version ?
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: cmdrfire on February 12, 2009, 11:50:39 pm: You need Can-Gateway version "L" or better.
You will also need new PDC unit and possibly new sensors, but probably not. Kufatec unit is expensive and you can get OEM bits and fit yourself for cheaper. Bit of VCDS needed too.

*I'm dropping into the weird Euro-English used on vwnavi...
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 13, 2009, 05:08:43 am: Quote from: cmdrfire on February 12, 2009, 11:50:39 pm
You need Can-Gateway version "L" or better.
You will also need new PDC unit and possibly new sensors, but probably not. Kufatec unit is expensive and you can get OEM bits and fit yourself for cheaper. Bit of VCDS needed too.

*I'm dropping into the weird Euro-English used on vwnavi...
Ok, cheers, how do I find my can gateway version
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 13, 2009, 09:57:49 am: ^^^ do an auto scan the car with VAGCOM and under address 19 you will see something like this (taken from an auto scan report VrStu did of my car when he fitted the bluetooth): -

Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 300308F2022338
Coding: ED817F0E4002020003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
No fault code found.

The "L" at the end of the part number is the version :happy2:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 13, 2009, 10:05:31 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H15 0180
Revision: H15 Serial number: 1400K07A0905C6
Coding: E9817F065002020003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200

i guess mines a L then
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 13, 2009, 10:07:28 am: Yep, I am just trying to workout the correct part number of the PDC unit and then I will get a price off the stealers :happy2:

I might have to pay you a visit Shaun if you don't mind as I still haven't got VDCS :ashamed:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 13, 2009, 10:10:09 am: NP :happy2:, you can bring all the parts and put my reverse sensors in :P

Quote from: SteveP on February 13, 2009, 10:07:28 am
Yep, I am just trying to workout the correct part number of the PDC unit and then I will get a price off the stealers :happy2:

I might have to pay you a visit Shaun if you don't mind as I still haven't got VDCS :ashamed:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 13, 2009, 10:11:41 am: Are you going to try to find a bumper with the holes already in or drill them yourself ???
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 13, 2009, 10:27:44 am: Quote from: SteveP on February 13, 2009, 10:11:41 am
Are you going to try to find a bumper with the holes already in or drill them yourself ???

i did know of an white edition 30 part that was going for sale, it doesnt have holes but im lead to believe theres marks where to make the holes, that said i think they only changed the bottom part, im guessing the sensors fit on the top part
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: SteveP on February 13, 2009, 10:32:03 am: ^^^ Yep the sensors are fitted to the top section :smiley:
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: 182_blue on February 13, 2009, 10:38:11 am: Quote from: SteveP on February 13, 2009, 10:32:03 am
^^^ Yep the sensors are fitted to the top section :smiley:

oh bugger LOL, anyone selling a whole edition 30 bumber
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: stealthwolf on February 13, 2009, 11:44:03 am: Once somebody works out how to do all this, can they put a tutorial up in plain, Queen's English please?

I'm confused by vwnavi! :laugh: