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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Tfsi_Mike on May 05, 2010, 10:52:35 am

Title: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 05, 2010, 10:52:35 am
Would like some ideasof where I should go next with the car.

Currently:

ITG, APR Cooler, APR HPFP, APR stage 2+, RS4 valve, Forge dv, BSH pcv fix, 3" miltek DP, miltek TBE, sasch clutch disk

KW V3, WALK, neuspeed arbs, BSH engine & transmision mounts, VWR lower mount,

Thinking about waiting and saving for hybrid & jabbasports mapping
or trying giac extreme+ both options with water meth.

Also thinking of trying 888s and trying to get some PR 1.2s (would they be much lighter than the CHs though?)

ideas?

Do your worst haha

 
 
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: CarrG on May 05, 2010, 11:01:33 am
Nice nice spec already Mike.  Did you say you were looking at a diff?  Def think the PR 1.2s would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Top Cat on May 05, 2010, 04:20:09 pm
There will be a noticeable difference with the TD's and semi slicks.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: KRL on May 05, 2010, 04:29:00 pm
Looks like you have already gone pretty much as far as you can with the OEM K04.  So like you say have a look at the hybrid option or perhaps go BT.

Have you thought about going stage 3/4 with APR?  Howabout about a GT3071r and go stage 3 with REVO?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 05, 2010, 04:37:54 pm
A diff. and rods+pistons and apr stage 3  :drool:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 05, 2010, 04:41:06 pm
mikee i told you last night you HAVE to get WMIon your car or a diff.  no other challengers
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Hurdy on May 05, 2010, 04:48:01 pm
Get a WOTbox fitted, I've been in Owenlcr's car and it's foooooooking amazing.

Also you need a Quaife ATB LSD

Also The new OZ superturismo WRC wheels (7kg for 18's :drool:) alongside TOYO R1R's (best compromise for road and track and don't sound as loud as R888's)

I'd wait on the hybrid K04 to see what Jabbalad's car performs like - you may need REVO stage 3 to get the best from it.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 05, 2010, 04:53:47 pm

I'd wait on the hybrid K04 to see what Jabbalad's car performs like - you may need REVO stage 3 to get the best from it.

revo stage 3 is for k03 cars converting to k04!!!

Surely the best option would be to let to jabba custom map it as they should have already done their own car by that point.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 05, 2010, 05:13:09 pm
Ah forgot about the wot box :)

might get one in the next few weeks. Then wmi. When I get back to Germany I'll get my wheels and tres duty free and by then the ko4 hybrid will be tried and tested :)

what do the td 1.2s weigh in 18" ?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 05, 2010, 05:26:26 pm
Quote
KW V3, WALK, neuspeed arbs, BSH engine & transmision mounts, VWR lower mount,
 
above40hp
look at it this way you are already at stage 2+ realistically looking at aout 340-360hp.  so your car is by no means slow in any way shape or form

So until the new hybrid is setup and you have sen the results of the WMI lets take a look at the handling/braking, which lets be fair is probably more important than the power.

your running a lot of power through just the front wheels, ive driven yours and we both know its not hard to get the wheels spinning, and with those new tyres id bet they are even worse lol.

Id say with  your suspension you are sorted, you have one of the top few suspension kits, ARBs and WALK, so your pretty much as far as you can go, so how else could you reduce te wheelspin/gain traction both in the straight line and whilst cornering which  wil ultimately make your car faster.

LSD (better traction off the line and whilst cornering plus reduced understeer)
TT lower control arms(much more cornering grip)
Poly bush the entire car( more steering feel and responsiveness)
R8 rear 4 pot calipers to bolt on straight over your 345mm discs (better brakes is aleays a plus, with a wider choice of performance pads available)
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Cupra R on May 05, 2010, 05:49:43 pm
Get a WOTbox fitted, I've been in Owenlcr's car and it's foooooooking amazing.

Also you need a Quaife ATB LSD

Also The new OZ superturismo WRC wheels (7kg for 18's :drool:) alongside TOYO R1R's (best compromise for road and track and don't sound as loud as R888's)

I'd wait on the hybrid K04 to see what Jabbalad's car performs like - you may need REVO stage 3 to get the best from it.

Which part's amazing mate, his car or the WOT?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RedRobin on May 05, 2010, 06:13:07 pm
.....

What you really need, Mike, is a JCaps black anodised alu washer bottle cap - I just happen to know where you can get one at much less cost than retail  :wink:

Otherwise I'd say:

- Lighterweight wheels - TD or OZ
- TT wishbones
- Quaife ATB diff
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Hurdy on May 05, 2010, 06:37:47 pm
Get a WOTbox fitted, I've been in Owenlcr's car and it's foooooooking amazing.

Also you need a Quaife ATB LSD

Also The new OZ superturismo WRC wheels (7kg for 18's :drool:) alongside TOYO R1R's (best compromise for road and track and don't sound as loud as R888's)

I'd wait on the hybrid K04 to see what Jabbalad's car performs like - you may need REVO stage 3 to get the best from it.

Which part's amazing mate, his car or the WOT?

WOT!!!!!!!!!! :jumping:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Hurdy on May 05, 2010, 06:38:44 pm
what do the td 1.2s weigh in 18" ?

TD's 8.2kg :happy2:  OZ WRC 7kg :drool:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RedRobin on May 05, 2010, 06:50:05 pm
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Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Cupra R on May 05, 2010, 07:08:47 pm
Get a WOTbox fitted, I've been in Owenlcr's car and it's foooooooking amazing.

Also you need a Quaife ATB LSD

Also The new OZ superturismo WRC wheels (7kg for 18's :drool:) alongside TOYO R1R's (best compromise for road and track and don't sound as loud as R888's)

I'd wait on the hybrid K04 to see what Jabbalad's car performs like - you may need REVO stage 3 to get the best from it.












Which part's amazing mate, his car or the WOT?

WOT!!!!!!!!!! :jumping:

Ahh. Good. I hope to see it in person then when he pick's it up.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RobH on May 05, 2010, 07:10:50 pm
Get a WOTbox fitted, I've been in Owenlcr's car and it's foooooooking amazing.

Also you need a Quaife ATB LSD

Also The new OZ superturismo WRC wheels (7kg for 18's :drool:) alongside TOYO R1R's (best compromise for road and track and don't sound as loud as R888's)

I'd wait on the hybrid K04 to see what Jabbalad's car performs like - you may need REVO stage 3 to get the best from it.

Which part's amazing mate, his car or the WOT?

WOT!!!!!!!!!! :jumping:

Good may get one fitted this month then as im going to York raceway and just ordered some track tyres :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: djhorace on May 05, 2010, 07:18:23 pm
Owen and I will be racing each other this coming Sunday at Crail. I have no WOT Box and still have my a/c. Most of the other mods being are similar except he has a 3" VF Intake vs my Evoms, his the only car running the new GIAC Extreme Plus file where mine is Revo S2+. He will also have on his light wheels and I wont as they are off being refinished and he is now decat and I dont think I will have mine removed by then due to work being too busy.

It will be interesting to see how his car goes. I am expecting it to be faster than mine (my time being 13.2 @ 114mph). 12's maybe? Would love it if it was  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RobH on May 05, 2010, 07:20:24 pm
You both gonna be running on semi slicks or road tyres?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: djhorace on May 05, 2010, 07:21:34 pm
You both gonna be running on semi slicks or road tyres?
Both cars running crappy Vredstein Ultrac Sessantas unless my Kumho V70a's arrive in time :)
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RobH on May 05, 2010, 07:24:14 pm
Haha just ordered some of them tonight in Hard Compound.

Mike next mod should be lightweight alloys + sticky tyres then the TT Control Arms imo :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 05, 2010, 07:25:38 pm
SteveJnr at Statlers seemed certain the TT Ball joints would go on the cupra  :confused:  If they do thats a mod for this month!

How much are the R8 Calipers??  :party: :party:  Lighter that the mammoth cupra ones Im guessing? (and sexier!)

Ill see if I can squeeze in the WOT box before I go back to Germany mid June too
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 05, 2010, 07:33:57 pm
Owen and I will be racing each other this coming Sunday at Crail. I have no WOT Box and still have my a/c. Most of the other mods being are similar except he has a 3" VF Intake vs my Evoms, his the only car running the new GIAC Extreme Plus file where mine is Revo S2+. He will also have on his light wheels and I wont as they are off being refinished and he is now decat and I dont think I will have mine removed by then due to work being too busy.

It will be interesting to see how his car goes. I am expecting it to be faster than mine (my time being 13.2 @ 114mph). 12's maybe? Would love it if it was  :happy2:

Has owen just had the condenser taken out or had a pulley / belt swap and had the whole ac taken out?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RobH on May 05, 2010, 07:41:41 pm
SteveJnr at Statlers seemed certain the TT Ball joints would go on the cupra  :confused:  If they do thats a mod for this month!

How much are the R8 Calipers??  :party: :party:  Lighter that the mammoth cupra ones Im guessing? (and sexier!)

Ill see if I can squeeze in the WOT box before I go back to Germany mid June too


Keep us updated on the TT  ball joints then as if they go on the cupra arms then that would be one hell of a ace mod for like £100.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 05, 2010, 08:26:56 pm
SteveJnr at Statlers seemed certain the TT Ball joints would go on the cupra  :confused:  If they do thats a mod for this month!

How much are the R8 Calipers??  :party: :party:  Lighter that the mammoth cupra ones Im guessing? (and sexier!)

Ill see if I can squeeze in the WOT box before I go back to Germany mid June too


Keep us updated on the TT  ball joints then as if they go on the cupra arms then that would be one hell of a ace mod for like £100.

My bad, the arms are machined different :(
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: djhorace on May 05, 2010, 10:21:11 pm
Not sure. Think its just the core removed to allow more air on to the intercooler.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: keith on May 05, 2010, 10:29:53 pm
Excuse my ignorance Mike whats a RS4 valve? and the benefits.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: djhorace on May 05, 2010, 11:20:07 pm
Excuse my ignorance Mike whats a RS4 valve? and the benefits.
Helps with the limitation from the standard valve Keith. Owen and I will be at Crail on Sunday. Owen has the new GIAC map. You should come along  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 06, 2010, 05:49:10 am
Excuse my ignorance Mike whats a RS4 valve? and the benefits.

when you are running an uprated fuelpump and software requesting 130bar of fuel pressure you have problems with the stock fuel pressure regulator valve as its limit is 127bar, rs4 valve has a limit of 132bar  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 06, 2010, 07:13:01 am
Excuse my ignorance Mike whats a RS4 valve? and the benefits.

when you are running an uprated fuelpump and software requesting 130bar of fuel pressure you have problems with the stock fuel pressure regulator valve as its limit is 127bar, rs4 valve has a limit of 132bar  :happy2:

I see you have S3 injectors mate, much benefit?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 06, 2010, 07:32:49 am
Excuse my ignorance Mike whats a RS4 valve? and the benefits.

when you are running an uprated fuelpump and software requesting 130bar of fuel pressure you have problems with the stock fuel pressure regulator valve as its limit is 127bar, rs4 valve has a limit of 132bar  :happy2:

I see you have S3 injectors mate, much benefit?

I'll know after this weekend when i get the valve fitted  :wink:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 06, 2010, 07:36:12 am
Excuse my ignorance Mike whats a RS4 valve? and the benefits.

when you are running an uprated fuelpump and software requesting 130bar of fuel pressure you have problems with the stock fuel pressure regulator valve as its limit is 127bar, rs4 valve has a limit of 132bar  :happy2:

I see you have S3 injectors mate, much benefit?

I'll know after this weekend when i get the valve fitted  :wink:

Are you APR software? Let me know what difference the injectors make, if any :)
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: keith on May 06, 2010, 02:33:42 pm
I enquired about the S3 injectors but I was told not to bother.
does anyone have the part number for the RS4 valve?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 06, 2010, 03:52:47 pm
I enquired about the S3 injectors but I was told not to bother.
does anyone have the part number for the RS4 valve?
depends what software you want  :smiley:
as i wanted APR, s3 was the way to go. perhaps if (when) i go APR stage 3 or similar and custom coding i will consider rs4 injectors.  :happy2:

rs4 partnr. 079130757
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: KRL on May 06, 2010, 04:09:10 pm
Remeber APR make there own injectors as well but they are only available with stage 3.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 06, 2010, 04:24:58 pm
Remeber APR make there own injectors as well but they are only available with stage 3.

i know but as i want to have pistins and rods done at the same time, i can't use apr sw
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: KRL on May 06, 2010, 05:15:01 pm
Remeber APR make there own injectors as well but they are only available with stage 3.

i know but as i want to have pistins and rods done at the same time, i can't use apr sw

Don't really follow?  APR recommend uprated rods for their stage 3 100 octane file so why would uprating the rods and pisotns be a problem?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 06, 2010, 05:20:55 pm
Remeber APR make there own injectors as well but they are only available with stage 3.

i know but as i want to have pistins and rods done at the same time, i can't use apr sw

Don't really follow?  APR recommend uprated rods for their stage 3 100 octane file so why would uprating the rods and pisotns be a problem?

no problem as long as you only change rods and keep stock comp. but other pistons i assume the software won't be app
licable  :confused:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Hurdy on May 06, 2010, 05:31:38 pm
A different compression ratio would require different software to allow for the different volume, timing and fuelling. The APR software would still work, but it wouldn't be as effective :smiley:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RedRobin on May 06, 2010, 05:55:17 pm
A different compression ratio would require different software to allow for the different volume, timing and fuelling. The APR software would still work, but it wouldn't be as effective :smiley:

^^^^ There speaks a man who knows about such things  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 06, 2010, 06:31:39 pm
A different compression ratio would require different software to allow for the different volume, timing and fuelling. The APR software would still work, but it wouldn't be as effective :smiley:

my own thoughts.
My reasoning is why go stage 3 over my current K04+ for app. 50bhp and no more torque??
if i go stage 3 i want more torque aswell  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: KRL on May 06, 2010, 07:04:25 pm
Check out APR's stage 4 development.  That may want to make you go stage 3 and the stage 4  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RedRobin on May 06, 2010, 07:13:04 pm
^^^^
Nah! What about Stage 6, you power-mad maniacs!  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: pako88268 on May 07, 2010, 07:40:27 pm
HEy mike

what WOT box are you looking for?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 12, 2010, 12:04:29 pm
Managed the RS4 valve, BSH PCV Fix, WALK, BSH mounts and aircon condenser out last week/week before, also fitted td 1.2s

Sooooo, before I go back to Germany in the next few weeks its looking like my choices are;

2 Tyres - 888, R1R, Hankook etc - (have worn vreds atm)
Sachs pressure plate to compliment sachs disc, (£260 fitted)
WMI, (£350 fitted)
Forge actuator (£275 fitted)

or open to suggestions.  Im thinking about waiting 'till I come back and end of Aug having another mod spree....
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Cupra R on May 12, 2010, 12:30:46 pm
Who fitted all the kit for you Mike?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 12, 2010, 01:10:16 pm
Managed the RS4 valve, BSH PCV Fix, WALK, BSH mounts and aircon condenser out last week/week before, also fitted td 1.2s

Sooooo, before I go back to Germany in the next few weeks its looking like my choices are;

2 Tyres - 888, R1R, Hankook etc - (have worn vreds atm)
Sachs pressure plate to compliment sachs disc, (£260 fitted)
WMI, (£350 fitted)
Forge actuator (£275 fitted)

or open to suggestions.  Im thinking about waiting 'till I come back and end of Aug having another mod spree....
Who fitted all the kit for you Mike?


RS4 Valve
WALK       
BSH Mounts
Air con out

All at Statlers

BSH pcv kit myself
 :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Cupra R on May 12, 2010, 01:49:47 pm
You fitted the RS4 valve due to changing software supplier? Well, when you change.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RobH on May 12, 2010, 06:14:50 pm
Im guessing just one from that list so id go with wmi or sachs pressure plate. have you any pics with the td 1.2s on?
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 12, 2010, 06:17:22 pm
it looks well smart on the car.  His roof is black as well so it matches well
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 12, 2010, 06:32:26 pm
Im guessing just one from that list so id go with wmi or sachs pressure plate. have you any pics with the td 1.2s on?

Just one before I go back to germany in June, got last bits to pay for the wedding too  :innocent:

Pic of wheels to follow
it looks well smart on the car.  His roof is black as well so it matches well

Cheers  :wink:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 12, 2010, 06:57:27 pm

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Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 12, 2010, 07:07:20 pm
Pic of wheels to follow
it looks well smart on the car.  His roof is black as well so it matches well
Cheers  :wink:
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Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Hurdy on May 12, 2010, 08:03:28 pm
The car's progressing nicely Mike :happy2:

I don't like the TDPR 1.2's on the Leon though....I think you ought to let me have them :wink: :laugh:

I'd go for the R1R's, they make a hell of a lot of difference to grip levels and are decent in the wet. :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 12, 2010, 08:09:29 pm
The car's progressing nicely Mike :happy2:

I don't like the TDPR 1.2's on the Leon though....I think you ought to let me have them :wink: :laugh:

I'd go for the R1R's, they make a hell of a lot of difference to grip levels and are decent in the wet. :happy2:

Steves getting some R1Rs in tommorow.  Buuuut Being that Im not going to get on a track untill I get back to germany and Im driving Kent - Doncaster every week untill then Im going to exploit whats left on the Vreds.

Instead Ive emailed for a booking on Friday 28th for fitting WMI all ready for Hybrid / custom map offerings after my wedding  :laugh:

Then Diff, tyres & TT ball joints and she'll be mint :)
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: CarrG on May 12, 2010, 08:18:21 pm


Looks good Mike and the future mods sound sweet.  :grin:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2010, 12:47:43 pm

Just spoke to bruce and the WMI kit I want for the car is comming from the states and out of stock.

I think Im going to focus my efforts (and savings) into researching a DSG conversion for the Cupra.

Dont plan on getting rid of it for a while so lots of time to get where I want to be with it (the list is endless!)
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 13, 2010, 04:26:09 pm
As much as DSG is a great, i dont think it would be that much of an improvment to justify the very likely LARGE cost of supply and fitting.

plenty of other things available to make your car go faster. 

top mounts, TT arms, better lightweight brakes, LSD, forge actuator, hybrid turbo, custom mapping, WMI.  All of which would make more of a difference to the car in the bends, and most of them wil make it faster on the strip than what the DSG conversion would. 

Of that list for me, it would have to be the diff and the control arms.  Diff will make your car put down the power better, thus making it faster, and the control arms and LSD it will make you corner like a house fly with all you other mods.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RedRobin on May 13, 2010, 04:29:04 pm
^^^^
But your most important next mod of all, Mike, is currently winging its way to you by Snail Mail 'First Class'. It's a bit of bay-candy.  :wink:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2010, 04:35:41 pm
^^^^
But your most important next mod of all, Mike, is currently winging its way to you by Snail Mail 'First Class'. It's a bit of bay-candy.  :wink:


Thank yoooooou,  which address matey?  :drinking:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 13, 2010, 04:36:09 pm
mine :P
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RedRobin on May 13, 2010, 05:06:19 pm
^^^^
But your most important next mod of all, Mike, is currently winging its way to you by Snail Mail 'First Class'. It's a bit of bay-candy.  :wink:


Thank yoooooou,  which address matey?  :drinking:

....Down south - I've already PM'd you twice today, mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2010, 05:20:08 pm

Booked in 27th for Sachs pressure plate at VWR.

Going to keep intouch with Bruce to see when the WMI comes back in stock and get statlers to fit it  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 13, 2010, 05:30:18 pm
you should pre-order the WMI mike.  that way you are guaranteed a kit plus you cant change your mind :wink:
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2010, 05:57:09 pm
you should pre-order the WMI mike.  that way you are guaranteed a kit plus you cant change your mind :wink:

You're a Meth whore! *

*water meth not crystal meth  :P
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 13, 2010, 06:03:52 pm
saying that id actually prob wait for dj and owen to see how theoir cars react with the giac and revo
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 13, 2010, 06:13:17 pm
saying that id actually prob wait for dj and owen to see how theoir cars react with the giac and revo

Doesnt make alot of difference as new mapping on the Cupra is imminent  :evilgrin:  

Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 13, 2010, 06:16:59 pm
saying that id actually prob wait for dj and owen to see how theoir cars react with the giac and revo
Doesnt make alot of difference as new mapping on the Cupra is imminent  :evilgrin:

it does if one of them responds to WMI better than the other
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: RobH on May 14, 2010, 06:53:06 pm
saying that id actually prob wait for dj and owen to see how theoir cars react with the giac and revo
Doesnt make alot of difference as new mapping on the Cupra is imminent  :evilgrin:

it does if one of them responds to WMI better than the other

Agree you may aswell hold back, you only have to wait till early next month and they'll be up and running with wmi i think.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 27, 2010, 02:18:51 pm
^^^^
But your most important next mod of all, Mike, is currently winging its way to you by Snail Mail 'First Class'. It's a bit of bay-candy.  :wink:


Thank yoooooou,  which address matey?  :drinking:


On the ramps at vwr now :)
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 27, 2010, 05:12:33 pm
Update...  :sad1:

new pressure plate. Slipped like mad. Box back off, new complete sachs clutch kit going on
will update in 2hours I guess lol.
Title: Re: Next mod?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 27, 2010, 08:53:34 pm

back on the road. This is how the car shouldve been! Going to take some getting used to but feels much better!
Quite stiff to press pedal but sets of much better with less juddering.

Title: Re: Next mod? - Tyre help!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 06:36:45 pm

Any one experienced Yoko parada spec 2's ?? What are they like? Also currently watching a pair of new Khumo v700 / v70 sticky medium compound tires. 

Some one point me in the right direction!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 29, 2010, 06:44:45 pm
im looking at kumho's as well, but would prob go for the hard compound instead. 

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9795.30.html
post#39 has some guys review of all the track tyres here tried on his golf
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 06:57:56 pm

Just about to make an offer on 4 R888s used,  4 & 5mm How much do you think???  :party:
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: RedRobin on May 29, 2010, 07:06:50 pm

Just about to make an offer on 4 R888s used,  4 & 5mm How much do you think???  :party:

....£150
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 07:07:52 pm

Really? I really had no idea what sort of money to offer
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: RedRobin on May 29, 2010, 07:10:18 pm

Really? I really had no idea what sort of money to offer

....I based my suggestion on recently buying 2 tyres with 5mm tread for £80.

Btw, PM me if you still interested in my DS2500's, otherwise I'll post them in the For Sale section.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 29, 2010, 07:20:20 pm

Just about to make an offer on 4 R888s used,  4 & 5mm How much do you think???  :party:

go for them, and buy toyo r1r when they are all worn out, forget the parada spec2 they are an ancient design
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 08:11:41 pm
So since posting this on the 5th of may I went for some PR 1.2s, Complete new sachs clutch kit (wasnt happy with the previous set up), Boost gauge mounting pod, Robins fancy wash filler cap, Goodridge braided brakelines, engine oil & brake fluid, Im sure theres other stuff lol

Just bought a set of R888s with 4-5mm left on them, should get me to germany & back

Next mods will be TT lower arms, Carbon bonnet and some serious though on where to go next with the power mods...

(hybrid & giac? hybrid & Jabba? Hybrid & Revo? Current Ko4 & Revo? WMI? NOS?  :party: :party: :party:)

**edit add 2 piece front discs and ds2500s and S3 rears to the list  :party:
Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 08:19:02 pm

Oh I had the De cat aswell! lol

Boost gauge pod

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo56%2F2968Gsi_Mike%2F26320710.jpg&hash=8d6d891139c880fcce357c63e0b8b9171205b701)

Title: Re: Next mod? Now Tyre help, pleaaase
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 09:47:41 pm

Woo hoo!  Getting a Geo / Allignment setup at wheels in motion on Friday.  Got some F1 Assymetrics I think im going to put on the rear and have 2 pairs of 888s for the front

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fo56%2F2968Gsi_Mike%2F888.jpg&hash=b567c365dc3c60423568cfafc9049befdd30f118)
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: owen lcr on June 01, 2010, 09:53:40 pm
i thought you were a short ass but the booster seat is taking things to the extreme :jumping:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: RedRobin on June 01, 2010, 09:59:00 pm

Got some F1 Assymetrics I think im going to put on the rear and have 2 pairs of 888s for the front


....You going to mix F1 Asymmetrics with 888's?  :scared:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 10:00:41 pm
i thought you were a short ass but the booster seat is taking things to the extreme :jumping:

haha, thats my nieces   :stupid:

Got some F1 Assymetrics I think im going to put on the rear and have 2 pairs of 888s for the front




....You going to mix F1 Asymmetrics with 888's?  :scared:

Bad Idea?  :sad1:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: RedRobin on June 01, 2010, 10:10:35 pm

Got some F1 Assymetrics I think im going to put on the rear and have 2 pairs of 888s for the front


....You going to mix F1 Asymmetrics with 888's?  :scared:

Bad Idea?  :sad1:


....I'm not sure except that if you use ESP it'll go crazy because of such different tyres. If ESP Off.. I'm still unsure how your car will handle. Anyone else got a view?
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: NB07 on June 01, 2010, 10:20:33 pm
im no expert but id imagine having far more grip on the front would cause the back end to step out and that cant be safe when gining it beans round a corner.

Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 10:21:51 pm
Looks like 888s all round then  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 10:33:37 pm
its not that bad an idea mike, m personally id do it, but im quite confident that i can control it when it happens.  you need to ask yourself wil you react to it correctly. 

its easily sorted though.  get some geo done on he car, and get them to add a little more negative camber on the rear of the car.  that will give it more grip and it will be less likely to snap into oversteer. 

In fact you said you are going to wheels in motion. those guys are the mutts nuts at geo setup, tell them you ant to put R888s on the front, and you dont want to get to much oversteer, and they will square it away for you. 
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 10:40:10 pm
its not that bad an idea mike, m personally id do it, but im quite confident that i can control it when it happens.  you need to ask yourself wil you react to it correctly. 

its easily sorted though.  get some geo done on he car, and get them to add a little more negative camber on the rear of the car.  that will give it more grip and it will be less likely to snap into oversteer. 

In fact you said you are going to wheels in motion. those guys are the mutts nuts at geo setup, tell them you ant to put R888s on the front, and you dont want to get to much oversteer, and they will square it away for you. 


The car feels like hard work at the moment. A mix of worn rear tyres and the trauma the front suspension gets with the horrendous roads back home.  However with it tightened up and realigned Id be fairly confident in keeping it inline.

Is a good idea to discuss with them that setup.  Other wise ill get another pair of F1s for when I kill the R888s
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 10:42:32 pm
i say speak to them mate. they know they stuff inside out.  id use them on the front with no qualms about it.  all round would of course be better. wil they last you until you get to germany?? if so get em on and get some tax free ones in the fatherland
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 10:45:32 pm
I go back in 3 weeks so id hope so  :surprised:  They really that soft?
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: RedRobin on June 01, 2010, 10:56:10 pm

im no expert but id imagine having far more grip on the front would cause the back end to step out and that cant be safe when gining it beans round a corner.


....That's right. And even if you factor in better grip (on track) with the 888's, that's only if it's bone dry. A bit of wet would play havoc I reckon.
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 10:57:54 pm

Yes.  Summers do seem to be getting shorter (and wetter)  :sad1:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 11:03:06 pm

im no expert but id imagine having far more grip on the front would cause the back end to step out and that cant be safe when gining it beans round a corner.


....That's right. And even if you factor in better grip (on track) with the 888's, that's only if it's bone dry. A bit of wet would play havoc I reckon.
why would it cause havoc.  in the wet with R888s on the front and eagle f1's on the rear, IMO the worst that would happen really is the car would understeer more as the rear would be outgripping the front.

that said matching the tyres is the best plan, but just fronts isnt a lethal combination

I go back in 3 weeks so id hope so  :surprised:  They really that soft?
no idea on their life span, but i have no idea how muc tread you have and how many times your pannning on going up north before you go back out to germany
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 11:07:25 pm

im no expert but id imagine having far more grip on the front would cause the back end to step out and that cant be safe when gining it beans round a corner.


....That's right. And even if you factor in better grip (on track) with the 888's, that's only if it's bone dry. A bit of wet would play havoc I reckon.
why would it cause havoc.  in the wet with R888s on the front and eagle f1's on the rear, IMO the worst that would happen really is the car would understeer more as the rear would be outgripping the front.

that said matching the tyres is the best plan, but just fronts isnt a lethal combination

I go back in 3 weeks so id hope so  :surprised:  They really that soft?
no idea on their life span, but i have no idea how muc tread you have and how many times your pannning on going up north before you go back out to germany

3 weeks = home 3x = 600 miles + back to Paderborn  :happy2: Looking forward to fitting these, tommorow  :jumping:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 11:11:59 pm
where you gettingthem fitted mike.  when do you want to do thhis logging as well. wont have the cable for that much longer
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: gillm on June 01, 2010, 11:12:54 pm
888s in the damp are not that bad . i have done donny with them in the damp and felt confident with them
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 11:16:48 pm
where you gettingthem fitted mike.  when do you want to do thhis logging as well. wont have the cable for that much longer

Was going to ask if you wanted to bring the cable to essex when I picked up the rubber but has been raining all day.
Wheelspin  :sad1: :sad1:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 11:18:39 pm
where you gettingthem fitted mike.  when do you want to do thhis logging as well. wont have the cable for that much longer

Was going to ask if you wanted to bring the cable to essex when I picked up the rubber but has been raining all day.
Wheelspin  :sad1: :sad1:

you in chatham??  reckon i should be good for some logging tomorro
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 11:20:13 pm
where you gettingthem fitted mike. 

Know anywhere round here?  There's F1 auto centre, they fitted my mates falkens.  The 888s arent
brand new though so they may well say no ...
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 11:21:51 pm
just get them to give you a disclaimer
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 11:22:37 pm
where you gettingthem fitted mike.  when do you want to do thhis logging as well. wont have the cable for that much longer

Was going to ask if you wanted to bring the cable to essex when I picked up the rubber but has been raining all day.
Wheelspin  :sad1: :sad1:

you in chatham??  reckon i should be good for some logging tomorro


I am indeed.  Fairly slack day tommorow too.  Has BP 97 in it  :sad1: Always usually has Vpower, make much difference you think?
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 11:25:48 pm
like it, you've got an excuse in already.  if you have had it in a while and covered a fw miles it might have dapted abit to the different fuel. 
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 11:31:04 pm
like it, you've got an excuse in already.  if you have had it in a while and covered a fw miles it might have dapted abit to the different fuel. 

Excuse for what lol  :stupid:

323€ for the TT lower arms on onestop?  :party:  if the 888s are as good as people say might choose carbon bonnet over Diff next, always wanted one.
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: RedRobin on June 01, 2010, 11:33:54 pm

888s in the damp are not that bad . i have done donny with them in the damp and felt confident with them


....Agreed (based on Hurdy's experience on them in the wet on our Germany trip last October) but it's the mixture of tyres which would concern me, even with ESP Off. ESP On would be a 'mare.

Why risk such an experiment? Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 11:36:57 pm

888s in the damp are not that bad . i have done donny with them in the damp and felt confident with them


....Agreed (based on Hurdy's experience on them in the wet on our Germany trip last October) but it's the mixture of tyres which would concern me, even with ESP Off. ESP On would be a 'mare.

Why risk such an experiment? Or am I missing something?

Not really an experiment.  Was just my idea two have these four 888s as 2 pairs for the front and a set of good years for the rear.  Only reasoning behind it was the rears will last longer.

Think im just going to put the 888s on all round and then when theyre dead use the good years  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 11:45:06 pm
ive been in one of the guys on briskoda with a 500Hp mk1 stripped out vRS with diff and R888s on the front with pilot sports 2s on the rear and it wasnt bad at all.

pretty much all the track days in my vRS have been done with mixed tyres.  originally had exaltos all round.

wore out the fronts, fitted toyo T1Rs on the front and let the exaltos on the rear.  the result no issues.
put the toyos on the rear fitted vred sessantas to the front.   the result-no issues.

granted R888s have a big grip advantage, but each of the above front tyres were large improvements in grip on the tyres they replaced.

TBH mike you only paid £150 for the toyos. For that price id stick em all on and use them for the summer.  then replace them tax free later.  
but if you want to just use them on the fronts, do it. ive been in the car with you, you dont drive like a tool, so i dont for'see that much of an issue provided that you remember you are running this tyre setup
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 01, 2010, 11:57:03 pm

I just have to show my face at 8am. If its not raining give me a buzz if you're wanting to do some logging
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2010, 11:58:21 pm

I just have to show my face at 8am. If its not raining give me a buzz if you're wanting to do some logging

ive got at least half a days lectures tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Hurdy on June 02, 2010, 12:45:51 am
The R888's are fine up to 80mph (abroad!)...even with standing water, above that when very wet they are prone to aquaplaning. In the damp the R888's still have more grip than normal road tyres as long as you can get a little heat in them, which shouldn't be a problem throughout the summer. As for mixing tyres IDK as I've never tried it. I do know someone who is running R1R's up front and Sessanta's on the rear and the car handles fine in both the wet and dry without any extra ESP interference, and he doesn't hang around with his car. :smiley:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: RedRobin on June 02, 2010, 09:21:41 am
ive been in one of the guys on briskoda with a 500Hp mk1 stripped out vRS with diff and R888s on the front with pilot sports 2s on the rear and it wasnt bad at all.

pretty much all the track days in my vRS have been done with mixed tyres.  originally had exaltos all round.

wore out the fronts, fitted toyo T1Rs on the front and let the exaltos on the rear.  the result no issues.
put the toyos on the rear fitted vred sessantas to the front.   the result-no issues.

granted R888s have a big grip advantage, but each of the above front tyres were large improvements in grip on the tyres they replaced.

TBH mike you only paid £150 for the toyos. For that price id stick em all on and use them for the summer.  then replace them tax free later. 
but if you want to just use them on the fronts, do it. ive been in the car with you, you dont drive like a tool, so i dont for'see that much of an issue provided that you remember you are running this tyre setup

....Then I stand to be corrected.

I was only able to go on my own (limited) experience of mixing asymmetric with directional tyres in fast road use and irritatingly actioning the ESP and killing any smooth flow.

Personally I'd still be inclined to put the R888's on the front and asymmetric road tyres on the rear axle.
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: cuprak1 on June 02, 2010, 09:41:50 am
lookin good mike :) where did you get the boost guage pod to fit our air vent hole ?
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 02, 2010, 10:08:20 am
lookin good mike :) where did you get the boost guage pod to fit our air vent hole ?

Thanks mate  :happy2:  Dylan off SCN sent me plans for them but my gauge was slightly too big.  Luckily some one had made his own and diidnt need it any more  :smiley:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 02, 2010, 10:22:40 am
FITTED THE R888s THIS MORNING. £10 AWHEEL. WILL REPORT AS AND WHEN......
sorry just trying to shout over the road noisee  :scared:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 02, 2010, 11:22:18 am

Goodyears arrived this morning  :smiley:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Hurdy on June 02, 2010, 11:38:48 am
FITTED THE R888s THIS MORNING. £10 AWHEEL. WILL REPORT AS AND WHEN......
sorry just trying to shout over the road noisee  :scared:


Didn't you know that the sound for the R888 tyres was modelled on a Massy-Ferguson tractor Mike :signLOL:

That is why I went for the R1R's this time. :laugh:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 02, 2010, 11:40:54 am
FITTED THE R888s THIS MORNING. £10 AWHEEL. WILL REPORT AS AND WHEN......
sorry just trying to shout over the road noisee  :scared:


Didn't you know that the sound for the R888 tyres was modelled on a Massy-Ferguson tractor Mike :signLOL:

That is why I went for the R1R's this time. :laugh:

Lesson learned lol.  Was on a budget this time still have Wedding loose ends to tie  :love:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: cuprak1 on June 02, 2010, 12:26:23 pm
whose gettin married  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 02, 2010, 01:11:28 pm

I am, 1st August.  Not long now!  :pomppomp:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 02, 2010, 01:14:06 pm
ive been in one of the guys on briskoda with a 500Hp mk1 stripped out vRS with diff and R888s on the front with pilot sports 2s on the rear and it wasnt bad at all.

pretty much all the track days in my vRS have been done with mixed tyres.  originally had exaltos all round.

wore out the fronts, fitted toyo T1Rs on the front and let the exaltos on the rear.  the result no issues.
put the toyos on the rear fitted vred sessantas to the front.   the result-no issues.

granted R888s have a big grip advantage, but each of the above front tyres were large improvements in grip on the tyres they replaced.

TBH mike you only paid £150 for the toyos. For that price id stick em all on and use them for the summer.  then replace them tax free later. 
but if you want to just use them on the fronts, do it. ive been in the car with you, you dont drive like a tool, so i dont for'see that much of an issue provided that you remember you are running this tyre setup


Personally I'd still be inclined to put the R888's on the front and asymmetric road tyres on the rear axle.

Thats what I said orriginally?
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: RedRobin on June 02, 2010, 01:41:09 pm

Personally I'd still be inclined to put the R888's on the front and asymmetric road tyres on the rear axle.

Thats what I said orriginally?

....Sorry mate, my old brain can only cope with so much  :happy2:
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: cuprak1 on June 02, 2010, 01:51:11 pm

I am, 1st August.  Not long now!  :pomppomp:

wheres my invite?
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 26, 2010, 06:21:08 pm

Been using the 888s and impressed with the levels of grip!  :evilgrin: :driver:  The noise is a compramise i know some would struggle with though.

Just bought Labonte S4 Water Meth Kit and DaveB Ford GT / AM DB9 Vantage 4pots  :party: :party:

Then TT Lower arms & a mission for more power!
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Cupra R on July 26, 2010, 07:42:54 pm

Been using the 888s and impressed with the levels of grip!  :evilgrin: :driver:  The noise is a compramise i know some would struggle with though.

Just bought Labonte S4 Water Meth Kit and DaveB Ford GT / AM DB9 Vantage 4pots  :party: :party:

Then TT Lower arms & a mission for more power!

I look forward to your water meth result's Mike.
Title: Re: Next mod? New tyres :)
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 26, 2010, 09:02:30 pm

Been using the 888s and impressed with the levels of grip!  :evilgrin: :driver:  The noise is a compramise i know some would struggle with though.

Just bought Labonte S4 Water Meth Kit and DaveB Ford GT / AM DB9 Vantage 4pots  :party: :party:

Then TT Lower arms & a mission for more power!

I look forward to your water meth result's Mike.

Yep.  Wanting to see the benefits too!