MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: RedRobin on May 11, 2010, 08:37:32 am
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On the 2.0T FSI (Mk5 GTI in my case):
Does anyone know please whether it's better for the car to:
A) - Let the engine idle until the automatic choke finishes and the revs settle, before engaging gear and driving?
B) - Engage gear immediately, or very soon, after ignition and drive?
Btw, I never use higher revs until water temp gauge is vertical PLUS a bit longer because we don't have an oil temp display :sad1:
Thx
RR
[Hoping T_T might be around to contribute his in-depth reasons about which is best]
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B for me.
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I start the car give it about 30 seconds then drive off but i dont go above 2500rpm until the engine warms up.
Ive been told that leaving a car warm up at idle causes more harm than good something to do with oil pressure.
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I would say the first, it's certainly what I do and surely it makes sense??
I know it's slightly different but delivery vans always end up with knackered turbos etc due to them being started up instantly and driven away within seconds
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Im with you on the start up and wait about 30 secs maybe more if i have time, it feels like im doing the right thing lol.
Theres a guy that stays near me with a 3.2 quattro a3, i hear him every morning start in gear foot on clutch, before the engine even settles down to idle he is revving away from his space....Sounds mega but...Its been going on for about 2 years now and hes still running so, who knows if its doing any damage! :stupid:
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B) for me , moderate driving to warm it up ASAP
T_T may have you on 'automatic choke' , most youngsters wont even know what a 'choke' is :signLOL:
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Personally I would leave it 30 seconds or so to allow revs to settle a bit, and for the oil pump to do its thing, before moving off at slow engine speeds until everythings up to temprature.
But would be very interested to get a professional opinion on this. Good question RR.
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I'm almost certain T_T commented on this in another thread. May be worth a search? It may have been posted over at the other site.
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theres another site??? :scared: :surprised: :scared: :signLOL:
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I start the car give it about 30 seconds then drive off but i dont go above 2500rpm until the engine warms up.
Ive been told that leaving a car warm up at idle causes more harm than good something to do with oil pressure.
....I've heard that too - Which is why I asked the question.
Certainly I never use higher revs until water temp gauge is vertical AND a bit longer because we don't have an oil temp display :sad1:
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T_T may have you on 'automatic choke' , most youngsters wont even know what a 'choke' is :signLOL:
....[RR goes off to find pic of choke-related Babe to post, but finds nothing which wouldn't get censored]
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I get in the car, start the engine, glasses on then set off so probably B for me.
I then drive gently until fully warm.
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T_T may have you on 'automatic choke' , most youngsters wont even know what a 'choke' is :signLOL:
....[RR goes off to find pic of choke-related Babe to post, but finds nothing which wouldn't get censored]
:signLOL:
been trawling google images with safe search turned off again.......
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Both methods are fine. Personally I prefer to get an engine up to temperature as quickly as possible.
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Both methods are fine. Personally I prefer to get an engine up to temperature as quickly as possible.
....Coming from you, that's very good to hear :drinking:
I've been doing periods of both in the last (nearly) 5 years and suddenly wondered which was better for the engine.
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I then drive gently until fully warm.
end of your road then :grin:
:P
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T_T may have you on 'automatic choke' , most youngsters wont even know what a 'choke' is :signLOL:
....[RR goes off to find pic of choke-related Babe to post, but finds nothing which wouldn't get censored]
:signLOL:
been trawling google images with safe search turned off again.......
....Have you? Find anything suitable to share? :evilgrin:
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^ Hey! Nice one, man! :notworthy: :drinking: - After me, you're first :wink:
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Yeah I thought so, and the best I could come up with that was suitable...... not as good as some of yours RR but I am currently at work :pomppomp:
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Here's another one but methinks we best stop before it all gets out of hand!
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:signLOL: excellent work, a couple more posts and those girls will be getting indecent! :party:
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Another thread
improved off topic by Robin :laugh:
BTW I'm mostly B unless it is frosty on the windscreen or I'm waiting for the missis :grin:
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after starting my car up I like to give it a clean at a car wash... one with eastern europeans
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another one bites the dust....... :signLOL:
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Another thread improved off topic by Robin :laugh:
....Oh dear! I do seem to have built up a reputation. And you know what they say: A reputation needs to be maintained!
[cue for me to find more pics]
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Rich and Robin are on a girl pic spamfest competition - who can incorporate the most girl pics into threads in a day......
I'm backing Robin as he already has a back catalogue :signLOL:
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Rich and Robin are on a girl pic spamfest competition - who can incorporate the most girl pics into threads in a day......
I'm backing Robin as he already has a back catalogue :signLOL:
i expect most of his back catolog pages are stuck together though john :signLOL:
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Rich and Robin are on a girl pic spamfest competition - who can incorporate the most girl pics into threads in a day......
I'm backing Robin as he already has a back catalogue :signLOL:
I might surrender now, before I lose, and then get myself sacked for looking up smut at work :scared: :chicken:
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another one bites the dust....... :signLOL:
....But it's all your fault, John! - You started it! I started this thread off as a serious question and you mentioned the word "choke" :wink: :laugh:
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Rich and Robin are on a girl pic spamfest competition - who can incorporate the most girl pics into threads in a day......
I'm backing Robin as he already has a back catalogue :signLOL:
i expect most of his back catolog pages are stuck together though john :signLOL:
....Didn't your mummy tell you, Steve? - Never judge others by what you do yourself :evilgrin: :happy2:
I might surrender now, before I lose, and then get myself sacked for looking up smut at work :scared: :chicken:
....Resistance is futile!
[I'm sure that's a cue for a suitable 'futile resistance' pic]
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I might surrender now, before I lose, and then get myself sacked for looking up smut at work :scared: :chicken:
....Resistance is futile!
[I'm sure that's a cue for a suitable 'futile resistance' pic]
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What like this.......
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another one bites the dust....... :signLOL:
....But it's all your fault, John! - You started it! I started this thread off as a serious question and you mentioned the word "choke" :wink: :laugh:
dont blame me
I can, I believe, mention 'soft' , 'hard' , 'directional' ,'push back' in a sentence (about track tyres) without it descending into chaos.
wheres Hedge anyway?
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another one bites the dust....... :signLOL:
....But it's all your fault, John! - You started it! I started this thread off as a serious question and you mentioned the word "choke" :wink: :laugh:
dont blame me
I can, I believe, mention 'soft' , 'hard' , 'directional' ,'push back' in a sentence (about track tyres) without it descending into chaos.
wheres Hedge anyway?
I'm here. :laugh:
Can't believe you would tar me with the same brush to be fair.... :rolleye:
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Thread of the day :signLOL:
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Back on topic momentarily :smiley:,
I go for B, and gently does it till everything is warmed up, whats suprising is the water temp gauge reads normal after only a short period of time but when you keep an eye on the oil temp it takes a good 10miles on the motorway before it actually stops rising and settles :smiley:
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Back on topic momentarily :smiley:,
I go for B, and gently does it till everything is warmed up, whats suprising is the water temp gauge reads normal after only a short period of time but when you keep an eye on the oil temp it takes a good 10miles on the motorway before it actually stops rising and settles :smiley:
Are you talking about your car or not?
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Back on topic momentarily :smiley:,
I go for B, and gently does it till everything is warmed up, whats suprising is the water temp gauge reads normal after only a short period of time but when you keep an eye on the oil temp it takes a good 10miles on the motorway before it actually stops rising and settles :smiley:
Are you talking about your car or not?
:smiley:
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Thread of the day :signLOL:
....And we ain't finished yet, John!
What's the weather like in your neck of the woods? And who cares anyway?
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Back on topic momentarily :smiley:,
I go for B, and gently does it till everything is warmed up, whats suprising is the water temp gauge reads normal after only a short period of time but when you keep an eye on the oil temp it takes a good 10miles on the motorway before it actually stops rising and settles :smiley:
....So do Audi's have oil temp gauges? Na-nana-nah-nah! :P
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i didnt know posh golfs have oil temp gauges too :happy2:
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wheres Hedge anyway?
I'm here. :laugh:
Can't believe you would tar me with the same brush to be fair.... :rolleye:
....They know you're there, Hedge - Lurking and perving - You've been spotted!
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Back on topic momentarily :smiley:,
I go for B, and gently does it till everything is warmed up, whats suprising is the water temp gauge reads normal after only a short period of time but when you keep an eye on the oil temp it takes a good 10miles on the motorway before it actually stops rising and settles :smiley:
....So do Audi's have oil temp gauges? Na-nana-nah-nah! :P
i didnt know posh golfs have oil temp gauges too :happy2:
yes in the DIS display :P
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So this thread was interesting to begin with, now its filled with good lookers too its even better! :grin:
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So this thread was interesting to begin with, now its filled with good lookers too its even better! :grin:
....You might say that this thread is quite educational, even.
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I was thinking the same thing, I didnt know the S3 had an oil temp sensor. All very educational!
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For those that wont be offended, url above, it does have some side boob, and a small amount or nip, but it is a hot girl working on a super bike! :jumping:
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Oooopsie! Careful, Rich - No nipps allowed in this forum, remember.
Lovely as she is, we gotta keep it all tasteful. :drinking:
I'm sure that Nathan Greenouse doesn't mind though. C'mon Nath! You lurking? :evilgrin:
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Oooopsie! Careful, Rich - No nipps allowed in this forum, remember.
Lovely as she is, we gotta keep it all tasteful. :drinking:
I'm sure that Nathan Greenouse doesn't mind though. C'mon Nath! You lurking? :evilgrin:
Your eyesight must be better than mine Robin, or maybe your just closer to the screen! :signLOL:
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again back on topic, wrong engine i know but with the .:R32 its stated that its recommended to let the revs settle before driving (about 30 seconds) which is something i have religiously done
that said to be environmentally friendly its better if you dont blah blah
oh.. and speaking of religiously..
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This thread is no longer about option a) or b) and more DD :drool:
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In the past, I must confess to starting a 1.8 Vectra hire car from cold with my hoof to the floor, every morning for a week.
It was a particularly hateful lump of metal and so I showed it no mercy. :ashamed:
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hire cars are meant for that :innocent:
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hire cars are meant for that :innocent:
they can go faster in each gear and faster over speed bumps than normal cars too :laugh:
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I thought they were best used for practising gear shift without a clutch :ashamed:
VC does it say that in the manual or elsewhere?
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hire cars are meant for that :innocent:
they can go faster in each gear and faster over speed bumps than normal cars too :laugh:
funny that, iv often found they glide easily over speedbumps often at 30mph+ no problem
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I thought they were best used for practising gear shift without a clutch :ashamed:
VC does it say that in the manual or elsewhere?
yeah is in the owners handbook, it recommends you let the oil pressure build up in the hydraulic valve lifters - the reason for the noise :happy2:
i always wait for the revs to balance before driving off, and never go over 3000rpm until the temp needle is in the middle :smiley:
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In the past, I must confess to starting a 1.8 Vectra hire car from cold with my hoof to the floor, every morning for a week.
It was a particularly hateful lump of metal and so I showed it no mercy. :ashamed:
You're thinking of that nun aren't you Hedge...come on....admit it :wink:
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In the past, I must confess to starting a 1.8 Vectra hire car from cold with my hoof to the floor, every morning for a week.
It was a particularly hateful lump of metal and so I showed it no mercy. :ashamed:
You're thinking of that nun aren't you Hedge...come on....admit it :wink:
I'm admitting nothing. :innocent:
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I thought they were best used for practising gear shift without a clutch :ashamed:
VC does it say that in the manual or elsewhere?
yeah is in the owners handbook, it recommends you let the oil pressure build up in the hydraulic valve lifters - the reason for the noise :happy2:
i always wait for the revs to balance before driving off, and never go over 3000rpm until the temp needle is in the middle :smiley:
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That Jack ass clip is LMAO nice one VC, does the hydraulic valve lift apply to the TFSI unit? Or just your lumpy 6 pot :wink:
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You're thinking of that nun aren't you Hedge...come on....admit it :wink:
I'm admitting nothing. :innocent:
....You don't have to admit anything. I told you earlier: They already know all about you, Hedge!
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My DEFI gauges have a little start-up routine which lasts about as long as it takes for the revs to settle. I turn on the car, wait to check if the oil pressure and vac levels are good, and then off I go. Tend not to go above 4000RPM until the coolant temperature has passed through 50-60C at least. Best give a chance for the oil to start flowing and make sure everything is nice and lubed.
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Please remind me to check out your Defi's at tomorrow's meet, Neo :happy2:
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Please remind me to check out your Defi's at tomorrow's meet, Neo :happy2:
Will do :happy2:
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Option 1 for me. I just let everything settle (usually about 10 secs or more) before driving off. Also wait till everything is up to operating temp before giving it some beans.
Alex
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Option 1? - I've forgotten what my question was with all the distractions. :laugh:
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Yea so did I....damm you RR :D
Alex
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Pardon? What are you talking about? :wink:
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