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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: vRS Carl on May 11, 2010, 08:42:05 pm
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At last that Fat one eyed jock has been booted from no.10
Now lets see if Cameron can deliver on his promises. Whats the betting he wont :signLOL: :signLOL:
Oh just want to say i have nothing against fat one eyed jocks it was just THAT fat one eyed jock.
Carl :happy2:
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Tbh he may not have been a great PM but being a Jock he was a natural with the purse strings and I have a horrible feeling this new lot will drop us right in it before we know it. I'll give it 6 months before those people who voted for him start asking themselves 'wtf have I done'
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im affraid to say i might agree with you. Different faces, different parties, different policies....in reality theres not alot of difference at all...camerons a multi millionaire long before he was in contention for PM so hes safe as houses regardless! not like average joe that when you get sacked its panic to get a new job!
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Tbh he may not have been a great PM but being a Jock he was a natural with the purse strings and I have a horrible feeling this new lot will drop us right in it before we know it. I'll give it 6 months before those people who voted for him start asking themselves 'wtf have I done'
drop us in what? we already are in the hot water, and its because he couldnt contain his purse strings. Spend spend spend
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I'll give it 6 months before those people who voted for him start asking themselves 'wtf have I done'
Ditto, I'm not sure this outcome is anything to get excited about.
Good on Brown for resigning with dignity, I though it was a very good speech.
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How long before the 'new lot' start blaming the 'old lot' when things don't go to plan! :fighting:
I think Mr Brown was better placed than anyone else to see us continue in the right direction away from this recession!
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Trust me i aint getting excited about the new party. Im just glad GB has gone as i thought he was a very very bad PM.
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he reckons they are going to double our Op allowance. that would be a nice treat. Be interested to see what this so called war cabinet can do as well. Labour bled our forces dry, so hopefully they wont dish out huge cuts on us
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Bloody hell you should see the Bun Fight i've just started by posting the same thread on Briskoda
See here Brisky Clicky (http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/161439-hallefcukinlulljah/)
Looks like i upset someone scottish what a shame :evilgrin: :evilgrin: (no offence to any Jocks on here it's only banter :laugh:)
Wonder how long i can keep upsetting him before the thread gets closed :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
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slightly OTT, lol. Some people read to far into things.
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hahaha!! Oh you skoda boys.
I love how he kicked off then never replied! What a turnip...if jocks racist i think we've all entered a world of political correctness which will see us saying absolutely FA!! haha and if a moderator is watching thats football association :innocent:
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People see labour and think they've ruined the country so they vote for the tories. Except they've forgotten what the tories did before then. Labour is bad but tories are worse. Once the honeymoon period is over, we're all screwed.
Well, I'm gonna be screwed regardless of who went into power.
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drop us in what? we already are in the hot water, and its because he couldnt contain his purse strings. Spend spend spend
Strange as it may seem we aren't in too bad a place at the moment. Ok so things ain't like they used to be but we aren't anywhere near as bad as Greece. Regardless of what you think, we were heading out of recession and we did so quite quickly - stand by to get right back into it again if Clegg doesn't keep a tight hold on Cameron.
He did spend, spend, spend and he needed to. Without the continued public spending lots more jobs and companies would have been lost. You have to put a little in to get a little out.
As I said GB isn't really PM material and tbh if he'd stood down and let someone like Millaband take the driving seat I'm sure Labour would still be in.
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Don't get me wrong I'm no Tory fan as I think they are all as bad as one another.
I just didn't like GB.
I think we were all screwed no matter who got in. But agree with you Stu had GB seen sense and stepped down a while ago we may still have a labour government.
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Don't get me wrong I'm no great fan of Labour either and I didn't vote for them, I voted Lib Dem but as I said under the current government and in the current worldwide economic situation we could be a lot worse off that we are now.
The only good thing to come of this current fcuk up is that Cleg has got some of his top boys in, most notably Cable so let's hope they can pull it out of the bag.
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How long before the 'new lot' start blaming the 'old lot' when things don't go to plan! :fighting:
I think Mr Brown was better placed than anyone else to see us continue in the right direction away from this recession!
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The only good thing to come of this current fcuk up is that Cleg has got some of his top boys in, most notably Cable so let's hope they can pull it out of the bag.
At the moment the only senior position Clegg has negotiated is that of Deputy PM. George Osbourne as Exchequer? We're doomed.
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As mentioned above GB should have graciously stepped down earlier, he was use-less, and never had the charisma to pull off winning a cracker pulling contest .... I just hope this coalition works and we dont have to go through this all again in the next 6 months!
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Double income,no kids,smoker,drinker and drive a gas guzzler... Kinda screwed no matter who is in power. :driver:
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Just to drag this up again. Spotted earlier.
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I'm more scared to see Cameron in charge than I am relieved to see Brown out. Gordon was handed a time-bomb that I think he managed quite well.
I just hope that Nick Clegg manages to keep some control over the Conservatives - I can be cautiously optimistic about that. We might see some sense (although given the decision that's effectively been made by the Tories to keep Trident* and for the Libdems to "abstain" from that vote I'm not sure how much sense we will see).
But remember what the previous Conservative government did: gut the heart out of this country and leave everything in the hands of the City.
*Trident replacement is a waste of money. Who are we to deter? The Soviet bear? North Korea? I'd much rather see all the money go into the conventional forces, particularly the Army and the RN.
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handed a time bomb :confused:
was he not chancellor during tony blair's entire term as PM - if he spent more time on the economy in those last couple of years rather than being obsessed with becoming PM and feuding with Blair, he might of been in a better position when he was finally gifted the job - instead he wet his pants and failed miserably...
im looking on the positive side of things, I did not want a coalition before the election and was rather sceptical, though they seem to have put a competent team together swiftly enough.
hopefully labour will spend the next few months fighting over who will take over their joke of a party so the new government can crack on and try and turn this mess around :happy2:
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How would we be in a better position? the recession happened because of Goldman Sachs and years of deregulation in both the US and the UK (admittedly continued by Gordon as chancellor, I'm not defending him, but I do think he handled the situation reasonably well). We could be in a much worse position; look at Greece, Spain, Ireland, or even the US for that matter.
Said time-bomb began when a bunch of quants on Wall Street figured out a way to make money for nothing (and your cheques for free).
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The MPs on their first cabinet session have all agreed to a 5% pay cut and pay freeze,
can you guess what is coming next.
VAT 20%
fuel tax will probably go up again
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How would we be in a better position? the recession happened because of Goldman Sachs and years of deregulation in both the US and the UK (admittedly continued by Gordon as chancellor, I'm not defending him, but I do think he handled the situation reasonably well). We could be in a much worse position; look at Greece, Spain, Ireland, or even the US for that matter.
Said time-bomb began when a bunch of quants on Wall Street figured out a way to make money for nothing (and your cheques for free).
even without the recession, and long before the recession there was alot of discontent with the current government, and the government spending was out of control aswell.
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on a side note, gold is at an all time high now. luckily gordon rown never sold off loads at rock bottom prices.....on no, he did, my mistake.
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Fundamentally Brown ruined the UK economy. He built a false economic bubble based on:
1. Debt fuelled Govt. spending - with massive waste
2. Consumer Debt
3. Property inflation
4. A badly regulated financial sector.
Instead of taking his time with public service reform and the economy he knee jerked from one decision to the next.
He was presented with the problems as early as 2004 and continued to believe he was invincible.
I say this to those who think he had any ability what do you base your opinion on outside of gut feel / being Labour at heart?
I'm no Tory fan boy but lived through the 70's and saw what had to be fixed. The bottom line is we are at a historic tipping point, the Con Dems need to find the solution. I am over the moon that we have a coalition with Clarke and Cable lending weight. I wish Alistair Darling could be involved.
Eddie George called it right. The economy is so fuxxed that any government that has to fix it will be so unpopular they will be out of power for 30 years. I hope this is not the case, I care about this country.
As for Brown - I thought his speach was from the heart, but I loathe and despise the self centreed useless cxnt. If you want 7,000 words on his failings just ask.
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i did my bit, didnt vote, never have :chicken:
i do think the current power share is the way forward though and relieved brown is finally off the top :smiley:
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I say this to those who think he had any ability what do you base your opinion on outside of gut feel / being Labour at heart?
I ain't Labour, and I ain't never will be.
I say he did relatively well because despite having no manufacturing or industrial base, and a monumental debt, and crazy property boom that crashed, somehow the UK still managed to claw its way out of the recession, and avoid a Greece/Ireland/Spain type situation. Those countries are fooked.
I do hope that the Tory/Lib coalition works well. I don't agree with much of what the Tories or the Dems are saying (despite voting Lib Dem) but it seems that for the most part they have cancelled out each other's stupidity. Certainly the early indications are promising, and there are some decent decisions on Cabinet posts. Michael Gove was not made Home Secretary, which is a good thing. Vince Cable could be in quite a good position. So it's promising.
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but it seems that for the most part they have cancelled out each other's stupidity. Certainly the early indications are promising,
thats my thoughts exactly.
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I say he did relatively well because despite having no manufacturing or industrial base, and a monumental debt, and crazy property boom that crashed, somehow the UK still managed to claw its way out of the recession, and avoid a Greece/Ireland/Spain type situation. Those countries are fooked.
I agree that an element of pumping money into the economy was a good idea to limit suffering. I stongly will advise that we are not out of the weeds. The UK is the last major economy to emerge from recession, significantly behind countries such as Germany who have significantly stronger recoveries than we do. Just before the election "Lord Mandybum of every title in the world" called the prospect of a double dip recession, this is because you cant spend your way out of a recession, it is investment that drives trade, growth and jobs. For so long Brown failed to get the banks lending at that cost us. Brown world of uncertainty has not helped, we are out of money and the future is uncertain.
Whatever happens the new government are going to do stuff but will moreso be a victim of circumstance.