MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Richn83 on May 13, 2010, 10:56:50 am
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Hello all, after a bit of expert advice, planning on getting my car serviced for the first time since taking ownership, going for a DSG oil and filter change, and t&D with longlife oil.
One thing that came up with every garage I called was has the cambelt been changed as the car is now 5 years old and down 32k, so last night I looked back through the service history and this has yet to be done, on closer inspection the dealer retrospectively changed the pollen filter, as this wasnt done during the second service at 4 years.
My question is when did VW officially change the cambelt to 4 years reardless of milleage as I bought the car as an approved used vehicle from a main dealer at 5 years old which included check and verification that all necessary servicing had been carried out (hence they went back and did the pollen filter) but since every dealer is telling me that the cambelt should be done at 4 years shouldnt this have also been changed? :fighting:
I would be very interested to find out if anyone has anything to confirm when this was communicated to garages, as im now staring at a significant service bill that I was not expecting!
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I had my 60k service done at a VW main dealer a few months ago and they never said a word about it to me. My car is an 05 plate and as far as I'm aware, the cambelt has never been changed.... I'm on 73k now :scared:
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According to my service book that came with the car, its 120k. But think ive read about this getting brought forwards, makes me happier garth knowing that yours has done double on the original setup (maybe the 05's were just solidly built :wink: )
might just be stealers looking for some extra work, but if it isnt then im spooling up for a fight with the dealer I bought the car from as im not having them work to an old schedule when it suits them and then try and charge me under a revised servicing schedule once im stumping the bill!!! :fighting:
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There is so much conflicting info on time and mileages for the cambelt.
I'm planning to do mine ('06 plate) next summer at what should be about 44-47k miles.
If my sh1t Hyundai Accent - that I ragged A LOT- can go to 80k miles and 6 years, without a problem a 'premium' GTI bl00dy better be durable enough to do five. Only my opinion, of course. :chicken:
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I had my cam belt, water pump and DSG oil and filter done recently. Every dealer I spoke to said the same thing, if its 4 years old the cam belt needs to be done regardless of mileage. Same goes for the DSG oil and filter I think.
My car had done 26k at the time and is 4 years old('06 plate).
Richn83 if you bought it from a main dealer they should have made sure the belt had been done before you got it.
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I had my cam belt, water pump and DSG oil and filter done recently. Every dealer I spoke to said the same thing, if its 4 years old the cam belt needs to be done regardless of mileage. Same goes for the DSG oil and filter I think.
My car had done 26k at the time and is 4 years old('06 plate).
Richn83 if you bought it from a main dealer they should have made sure the belt had been done before you got it.
Cheers Robert74, that seems to be the impression im getting from the garages ive spoken too, 4 so far! Have spoken to the servicing department of the dealer who sold me the car this afternoon, and got them to confirm that they use the same scheduling. No one has said about the DSG at 4 years so far they seem to be sticking to 40k but as the shift isnt great on mine I want to get this done ASAP.
The parts department have told me to speak to the sales department regarding the lack of cambelt change despite signing off on the service history as part of the approved used scheme, luckily for him the sales manager wasnt in today, so will be having a chat/barney with him tomorrow :fighting:
If anyone has some official literature that shows that 4 years is the magic date regardless of mileage for either cambelt or DSG I would love to get my hands on it before my conversation tomorrow. :evilgrin:
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I had my belt/water pump/rollers etc all changed at 4 years. Made shure it was done as part of the deal getting the car.
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I changed mine at 50k shop not massively expensive if you shop around, I had a cambelt go on a porsche 944s2 at 78k and a v expensive head rebuild later resolved to always change the cambelt early, I think of it as preventative maintenance, you will be looking at potentially thousands versus ~£300 tops and piece of mind.
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Yes it's officially 4 years of 60k whichever is first. I had an awful day today having to pay put for cambelt, tensioners, water pump, service and mot and I'm now skint but in need of a holiday. On the plus side, after driving round in a tdi bora all day I appreciate the power and even more so, the sharpness of the handling and overall gloss of the gti's handling. They really are stunning cars to
drive. It's nice to get a reminder after 4.5 years driving the same car:)
although 63 mpg has really wetted my appetite for a more economical car!
Anyone driven the latest BMW 320d coupe, they really are drawing me in with low tax, 50mpg and 177 bhp
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Sorry to hijack - but the cambelt on mine was changed before I bought it at VW but there is no record of the water pump being done. Are these prone to failure or is it just the cambelt you should worry about? cheers.
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Sorry to hijack - but the cambelt on mine was changed before I bought it at VW but there is no record of the water pump being done. Are these prone to failure or is it just the cambelt you should worry about? cheers.
Thats alright felix, the main issue is the cambelt, but since when your changing the cambelt you can change the water pump for relatively little some people get them done together, as its then only the additional parts cost rather than the labour.
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The VW dealers wanted and extra £100 to change the waterpump when I asked for a quote to do the cam belt.
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ok thanks richn83
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Anyone driven the latest BMW 320d coupe, they really are drawing me in with low tax, 50mpg and 177 bhp
Yes... and the 325d and the 330d. :party:
There's not that much MPG/VED sacrifice going from the 320 - 330. It'd be my choice.
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Asked at a friendly VW techie.
The belts are good and strong. He said most come off looking like new good for the 120k, it's the tensioners that fail!!!
They sound like a whole family of mice squeeking away.
Lots of good garages will replace the water pump at cost £45ish when changing the belt.
Got mine booked in about 4weeks. 5 yrs old 57k. The mice have just started & serive is reminding me it's due in 500 miles.
MOT, service, cam belt, tensioners, water pump & loan car. £420 all in.
Didn't think this was too bad as they have to almost drop the engine on axx to get to the cam belt!
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nc35, where have you got a quote for £45 for changing the water pump??? The pump itself is £85 if it's fitted for free.
My best quote so far is this:
Timing belt kit: £65.13
Water pump: £85.14
Antifreeze: £24.99
Fitting: £114.94
Total: £290.20
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Chris recommended White Rose VW, just outside Keighley.
Ben in service is way too helpful, knows and loves the GTI. Which can't be a bad thing.
Service is £90 price match.
Cambelt change is £280 price match.
Water pump £40 offered up by Ben thier cost fitted free
MOT £30 price match.
I was just about to ask for the water pump, but Ben beat me to it. Bradford VW did quote £45 fitted for the pump and £285 for the cam belt change. VW Leeds wanted £45 for the pump & £40 fitting.
Try shopping arround, VW say they will price match any garage using genuine parts.
Good luck.
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Thats all very cheap guys, admittedly only spoken to VW garages not indys but cheapest so far that ive found is £516 without pump.
Cheers NC35.
So the question is should I get it changed, the sales manager has offered to get it doen for me at his rates which is ~£300 rather than wait for my family of mice to turn up! car is 5 years and on 32k.
Also getting T&D with LL oil, and DSG service so already looking at a £350 bill for that... :surprised:
what are your thoughts people?
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nc35, where have you got a quote for £45 for changing the water pump??? The pump itself is £85 if it's fitted for free.
My best quote so far is this:
Timing belt kit: £65.13
Water pump: £85.14
Antifreeze: £24.99
Fitting: £114.94
Total: £290.20
thats cheap, where is that from?
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nc35, where have you got a quote for £45 for changing the water pump??? The pump itself is £85 if it's fitted for free.
My best quote so far is this:
Timing belt kit: £65.13
Water pump: £85.14
Antifreeze: £24.99
Fitting: £114.94
Total: £290.20
thats cheap, where is that from?
My local indy. They're called Burley Hill Garage in Leeds. My fiance and her family have been using the place for years with great service.
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Will dig out my invoice for the DSG service. Had it done last year but can't remember the service being silly expensive.
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Btw would get the DSG done at VW someone will correct me. But quite a specialist operation, wouldn't trust an indy just to save a few ££££.
Just my 2p
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The DSG oil and filter change on my car was £150. I had it done by my local VW dealer this year.
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The DSG oil and filter change on my car was £150. I had it done by my local VW dealer this year.
Cheers Robert, have been quoted more than that, so that gives me a position to haggle do you mind telling me which garage, and was that inc VAT?
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Bit hard to work out from the invoice,
But DSG service £40.00
GETR.OEL (Part Num 052 182 A2) £67.32 - I am assuming this is the DSG Oil
Filter (Part Num 305 051 C) £8.12 - DSG Filter??
So about £115 plus VAT
This was part of the 40k service so included oil & air filters, spark plugs, and a sump plug!!! total for everything was £284.42 Smith Knight Fay Bury. 0161 797 9121
Can't add any comments as this was done by last owner who has kept EVERY (!!!!) receipt.
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Bit hard to work out from the invoice,
But DSG service £40.00
GETR.OEL (Part Num 052 182 A2) £67.32 - I am assuming this is the DSG Oil
Filter (Part Num 305 051 C) £8.12 - DSG Filter??
So about £115 plus VAT
This was part of the 40k service so included oil & air filters, spark plugs, and a sump plug!!! total for everything was £284.42 Smith Knight Fay Bury. 0161 797 9121
Can't add any comments as this was done by last owner who has kept EVERY (!!!!) receipt.
Cheers Budy top information! :congrats:
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Still don't know when they changed to 4 year intervals for the cam belt, obviously not last year.
Previous owners would have had it done at the time of service.
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Pretty sure it was at least a couple of years ago...as it started appearing as an endoresment on Dealers servicing invoices as I remember.
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Sorry, no that was plus VAT. I have found the invoice and it's funny how you always like to remember things were cheaper than they actually were.
The break down was as follows:
1 hour Labour £82.50
Washer £0.59
Filter £9.78
6 litres of oil £63.03
Total £155.93
VAT £27.29
Total inc. VAT £183.22
The work was done by Beadles VW in Otford Kent.
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Sorry, no that was plus VAT. I have found the invoice and it's funny how you always like to remember things were cheaper than they actually were.
The break down was as follows:
1 hour Labour £82.50
Washer £0.59
Filter £9.78
6 litres of oil £63.03
Total £155.93
VAT £27.29
Total inc. VAT £183.22
The work was done by Beadles VW in Otford Kent.
That always seems to happen to me when I tell people how much ive spent on my car, it always seems to round down :evilgrin: