MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: geordie56 on May 18, 2010, 08:17:16 pm

Title: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: geordie56 on May 18, 2010, 08:17:16 pm
Hi, as above could someone tell me from the pics below if the ball joints go on the underside of the wisbone and bolt in place or the top side? I am assuming the top side due to the serrated edge on the ball joints to clamp in position on the wishbones better. Cheers in advance.


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv298%2Fgeordie56%2FSciroccoWishbones012.jpg&hash=1b07fd60c66818460e9dc1d52b273dcd6d2a221a)


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv298%2Fgeordie56%2FSciroccoWishbones011.jpg&hash=40d7992b436fb22b002155c634f1afae18d1cccc)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv298%2Fgeordie56%2FSciroccoWishbones010.jpg&hash=5842e19ff5b42c05dd7eebc3af71dbde7bd94490)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv298%2Fgeordie56%2FSciroccoWishbones009.jpg&hash=68462fdb5d51f8f88833ca63daaa529a37ca73ea)


Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 18, 2010, 08:52:01 pm
not sure on your question, but are you missing the locking plates for the ball joints.  when i went to Audi(in germany) the schematic on the computer screen showed a locking plate between the ball joint and wishbone

Ball Joint Lock Plates
    amount required= 2 total, 1 each side
    Part number= 8J0 407 175 (176)

im presuming you could get slip on those ball joints if you corner hard enough without the lock plate
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: geordie56 on May 18, 2010, 11:42:58 pm
No, the lock plate is there and fitted. It is part or the 3 studs that connect it all. All i am asking is do the ball joints go on the top face or the bottom face of the wishbone? Im assuming bottom, so the serrated adge on the ball joint locks against the wishbone when tightened.
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 19, 2010, 02:33:26 pm
pop a thread up in the general sub forum, and ask for someone to post up an expanded schematic diagram of the lower control arm etc from etka.

that should show you whether it will go above or below.

how much did you pat for the setup though, and i you fancy it, im sure alot of guys would appreciate a review in the product review section.  they layout is simle enough to follow :happy2: 
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 20, 2010, 05:16:48 am
the ball joints are below the control arms, with the bolts to be fitted from the top down  :happy2:
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: RedRobin on May 21, 2010, 08:03:54 pm
^^^^
Hmm.. First time I've seen a pic of those alu babies  :party: :party:

They look as if they deliver the biz  :happy2:
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: Hurdy on May 21, 2010, 08:06:52 pm
More money  to spend Robin :wink:
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: RedRobin on May 21, 2010, 08:11:12 pm

More money to spend Robin :wink:


....I don't want much - I just want a lot of it!

Anyway, TT wishbones are all YOUR fecking fault!!  It was your idea, remember!?
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 21, 2010, 08:18:44 pm
when you getting them fitted RR.  We'll need someone to do a review as well.  At hurdy are you running these already??
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: RedRobin on May 21, 2010, 08:41:31 pm
^^^^
I haven't bought them yet. They've now risen to first on my shopping list but I'm currently waiting for funds to help my cashflow.
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 21, 2010, 08:45:30 pm
^^^^
I haven't bought them yet. They've now risen to first on my shopping list but I'm currently waiting for funds to help my cashflow.

have you thought about selling your body.  maybe start a bid off in the randam section.


A night with RR :grin:
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: RedRobin on May 21, 2010, 09:28:00 pm
^^^^
Hey there! All you sinners!..



Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: ashley on May 21, 2010, 09:36:47 pm
looks correct in the photo. On the standard wishbones the nuts go beneath the wishbone.

early Vw's with camber adjustment on the arms had the bolts on the top as per the photo. Presuming this is to protect the nuts from accidental adjustment or possibly to make more difficult to adjust thus helping labour rates!
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: RedRobin on May 21, 2010, 09:49:06 pm
^^^^
By having the bolts on the top doesn't it lessen the risk of losing them if they come loose? Though you'd have problems if loose anyway!
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 21, 2010, 09:51:51 pm
robin has a fair point.  if the bolt is from above and the nut falls off, you still have a bolt securing the ball joint.  if it cameup from below,  it could potentially drop clean out :surprised:
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: ashley on May 21, 2010, 09:52:30 pm
^^^^
By having the bolts on the top doesn't it lessen the risk of losing them if they come loose? Though you'd have problems if loose anyway!

Not from coming lose but to protect from damage on humps/holes etc. Also as they need to remain adjustable they would be less likely to suffer effects from dirt/grime/salt etc.
Title: Re: Correct Orientation For Ball joints on wishbones?
Post by: ashley on May 21, 2010, 09:53:30 pm
robin has a fair point.  if the bolt is from above and the nut falls off, you still have a bolt securing the ball joint.  if it cameup from below,  it could potentially drop clean out :surprised:

Hence whilst they use the lock plate and standard gti's dont

I could be just talking rubbish as have no proof or experience on audi arms :laugh: