MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: VC on May 21, 2010, 12:18:08 pm
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total minter and always garaged, 50k on the clock and 1 owner from new RS Turbo in the fastest colour
dont have a shot of the car but for reference:
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he wants £3k for it... what to do what to do :popcornsoda:
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Good price do it. Childhood dream machine. Remember the cracked dash and steering wheels.
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he wants £3k for it... what to do what to do :popcornsoda:
What to do? Are you mad? :surprised:
Smash that piggy bank. :pomppomp: :pomppomp: :pomppomp:
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Gotta be worth that all day! :drool:
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I going to double check but a friend of a friends one is insured for 10k.
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its the postman who's told me about it. One of the houses on his round.. he fancied it too but his mrs said no, so he gave me the heads up
the cars not officially up for sale yet, the guys not an RS fanboy either, he just happened to buy one in 1985 and only put 50k on it between polishes :surprised:
i wanted one of these back in the day, this could be my chance to own a time warp :laugh:
@ CARRG... £10k?!?
£3k sounds not to be missed then :chicken:
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You could always do a "TopGear" and drop a piano on it :laugh:
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buy it, old school fast fords FTW
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maybe £3k is about right?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201019359039048/sort/priceasc/usedcars/engine-size-cars/1-4l_to_1-6l/transmission/manual/quantity-of-doors/3/body-type/hatchback/model/escort/make/ford/page/2/radius/1501/postcode/nn49xf?logcode=p
^^ although new block and 66k
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VC Yeah i'll check. Its one of those show n shine never used examples.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1620581.htm
^^ And that has 80k miles
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i think me and the postman will be having a serious chat in the morning :smiley:
where's chopsticks? he's our resident RS aficionado :laugh:
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if it checks out and has good provenance , go for it :happy2:
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Dont forget the crinkly A Pillars :laugh: :driver:
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uber cool retroc car imho
snap it up before the RS boys get wind of it
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i think me and the postman will be having a serious chat in the morning :smiley:
where's chopsticks? he's our resident RS aficionado :laugh:
Woooaa....buy it, if its one owner from new and he wants 3k I'm on my way..I'd have for that. :driver:
That really is silly money these have been changing hands for £10k plus recently for nice ones with sound body and even some restoration on them, in fact some have been completly restored.
buy it!!! you loon...
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the mrs has said i have to sell my defender 1st :chicken:
no way :grin:
maybe its just big enough to hide the RS behind it....hmmmm
chops is there any areas i need to play close attention to when i look around one? i'm gunna organise a visit
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the mrs has said i have to sell my defender 1st :chicken:
no way :grin:
maybe its just big enough to hide the RS behind it....hmmmm
chops is there any areas i need to play close attention to when i look around one? i'm gunna organise a visit
Body
Body kit, check the sills and door shuts
Battery tray,
Top of the wings in the engine bay
Reay chassis rails that run in front and round the rear wheels
Rear end round the arches and lower rear body panels
Rear hatch for water leaks from the rear wash wipe.
Interior:
Seat, not all bagged out on the bolsters.
Not faded
Dash board no cracks, espcially round the cluster
It's the correct one.... :signLOL:
Chassis plates/engines numbers will all match
Wheels, un kerbed. plus the spokes should have writing on at least four of them.
Original tyres were Michelin MVX's 195/40/15 IIRC.... :smiley:
Exhaust, original back box was oval shape (this will be silver/alloy in colour), may have been fiited with a series 2 one, should be grey in colour, which has a round rear box (like a big bean tin) plus these are better as they have a better expanion joint under the engine/gearbox which allows the engine rock, earlier one used crack here.
Battery should be white if it's orginal ford, but you can always get a white one...
HT Leads were dark blue bordering on black.
Service History...does it have any?
How many owners?
MOT's all of them?
Oil...Mobil 1 or any fully synth would be nice.
Errmmm I thinks that all for now... :signLOL:
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Is it a Custom....IE Electric Windows, Central Locking, Opening Rear Quarters and a Sunroof.. :smiley:
Non custom does not ahve any of the above.
Oh yeah check the glass too, should all be sekurit IIRC with a light greeny tint.
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Wow nice one dude! :drinking:
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Wow nice one dude! :drinking:
Your welcome old fruit.... :notworthy:
Let us know what it's like... :driver:
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total minter and always garaged, 50k on the clock and 1 owner from new RS Turbo in the fastest colour
dont have a shot of the car but for reference:
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he wants £3k for it... what to do what to do :popcornsoda:
I want that!!!!!!
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Oh yeah VC, is it a B ,C or D plater?
B platers and early C's have the black over riders on the rear bumper. :happy2: Mid to late C plates will not have these.
B and early C's have no indicators (side repeaters in the wings) Late C's will... :smiley:
Very late C's and D plates will have everything as Ford emptied the parts on them... :signLOL:
Confused yet..... :laugh:
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And theres more....
Check under the boot matt, if there's lots of white stickers (papery looking things) with red writing on them, leave them, these are build stickers. Nice an authentic... :happy2:
Large spot lights will be either Carello or Lucas (i think)
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Body
Type: pressed steel monocoque Escort three-door hatchback shell with Ford RS
bodykit including front spoiler and tailgate spoiler.
Colours
Diamond White.
Engine
Type: CVH
Capacity: 1596cc
Bore/stroke: 79.96 mm x 79.52 mm
Compression ratio: 8.3:1
Max power: 132 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Max torque: 133 lbf.ft @ 3000 rpm
Cylinders: four, in-line
Cylinder head: alloy
Block: cast iron
Installation: front-mounted, transverse
Valve gear: two cylinders per head, operated by belt driven overhead camshaft
Induction: Garrett T3 turbo, intercooler, Bosch KE-jetronic fuel injection
Transmission
Type: front-wheel-drive
Gearbox: five-speed Ford manual with 218mm clutch, viscous limited slip differential
Internal ratios: 1st, 3.15:1; 2nd, 1.91:1; 3rd, 1.27:1; 4th, 0.95:1; 5th, 0.76:1
Final drive: 4.27:1
Suspension
Front: MacPherson struts, tie bar arrangement with separate 16mm anti-roll bar
Rear: independent with transverse trailing arms, coil springs, telescopic dampers and
12mm anti-roll bar
Steering
Type: variable-ratio rack-and-pinion
Brakes
System: vacuum servo-assisted dual circuit hydraulic
Front: 240mm ventilated discs
Rear: 203mm drums
Wheels & Tyres
Wheels: seven-spoke RS alloys, 6x15
Tyres: 195/50 VR15
Performance
Max speed: 132 mph
0-60 mph: 7.8 sec
Identity
You’ll find the chassis numbers on the front slam panel and stamped directly on the
driver’s side floorplan. On the floorplan it’s hidden under the cut-away carpet and if
there’s any fresh paint or welding in this area then walk away.
Bodywork
Bottom line is you need to check for rust. Check the battery tray, chassis runners
(especially the rear section), front and rear wings (the kit can hide some bad rust),
bulkhead, plus give the scuttle panel a good prod. Another problem is crash damage.
Look for mismatched panel colours, overspray, large panel gaps and wonky filled
patches. Check the car under artificial light for signs of bad re-painting. This is where
street lights are gold mine.
Engine
Even though the CVH is about as tough as they come, turbocharging is still going to
take its toll. Blue smoke from the oil in the chambers is a sure sign of wear and could
mean either piston rings, valve stems, pistons or cylinder bores are up the duff. Blown
head gaskets area risk with modified boost pressures and cam belts will have needed
to be changed fairly often, so ask for some history. Even if its receipts for changed
parts. All goes to verify things..no matter how little.
Transmission
The Series One gearbox was basically a beefed-up version of the XR3i’s. Some
people fit a cheaper XR box when the RST’s original gives up. The only problem with
this is that the car will then be missing the vital LSD that the S1 came with. Other
points of concern are sloppy changes which could be the result of a slack linkage, plus
the synchro mesh isn’t adverse to a bit of stripping.
Suspension
The competition-derived set-up is more than adequate for fast road use, and
aftermarket stuff will detract from the car’s originality and value – unless that’s what
you want. Be cautious of cars that have been lowered too heavily, as their suspension
geometry will be out so much that the ride will be ruined and you’ll go through tyres
like you’re driving on broken glass.
Brakes
The Escort RS Turbo is prone to warping its discs. A lack of feel through the pedal is
not unusual, but watch for shuddering through the steering wheel.
Interior
Shabby Recaros are a big turn off. Getting replacement trim is expensive and timeconsuming
(If you can find any !!!). But if you’re angling for a full leather retrim it’s
not going to bother you that much – of course, you don’t want to tell the person
selling the car this. Also check the carpets...a sure tell-tale sign if the mileage matches
the condition etc. This part is quite often missed by people when “tidying” the car for
sale.
Below £2000
Look carefully at cars in this price range. They will need a lot of tidying and quite a
bit of money spent on them. You could end up with a bargain or a complete rust
bucket. Also look out for fakes…if in doubt, double check the chassis numbers and
contact the RS Owners Club. They can verify if its real or not.
£2000 – 3000
Spend this kind of money and you’ll have a good example on the drive. It’ll be
straight and honest, but don’t expect it to win any awards. There’s likely to be a fair
few miles and owners on the logbook too. Basically, it’ll be a good used buy that
looks respectable and drives well.
£4500+
Pay this money and you’ve every right to expect an excellent example in return. Cars
will be very clean with FSH, few owners and low mileage. Watch out for messed
around cars where the vendor’s trying hopelessly to get his money back. Concours
class winners are expected when you reach these prices upwards.
REMEMBER: THESE PRICES ARE JUST A GUIDLINE.
Biggest Rims
It is possible to fit quite large rims to the S1. 18’s have been done. However, this will
require some severe arch mods (inc, trimming of the kit). Your better off sticking to
the 15’s or going up one to 16’s. Just get the org. wheels refurbished or
polished…they look the biz.
Engine Tech
Ford took the 1600 CVH and bolted on its own KE-Jetronic fuel injection (unlike the
K-Jetronic found on the XR3i, on which it was based). A T3 blower and intercooler
were added and the internals of the engine beefed up to cope with the pressure of the
forced induction.
Price When New
Back in 1985 you were expected to part with £9,250 + £470 for the Custom Pack.
HPI
A phone call that could save you a lot of grief by confirming the identity of the Escort
RS Turbo and whether it’s stolen, a write-off or has outstanding finance. Costs £39.99
from HPI on 01722 422422, £36.99 from the AA on 0800 234999. Don’t just take a
dealers word as well (unless he has a signed, recent doc from one of the above..then
you can call them to confirm).
Clubs
RS-Ford
www.rs-ford.co.uk
RS Owners’ Club,
PO Box 4044,
Pangbourne,
Reading,
Berks RG8 7XL
Tel: 01189 841583
www.rsownersclub.co.uk
Is it really an RS?
Because of the age of the Series One, it’s best to check the chassis numbers to make sure you’re buying an RS. The chassis number is stamped on the front slam panel and under a cut-away piece of carpet on the driver’s side floorplan.
All Series Ones start with WFOBXXGCAB then either E (1984) or F (1985) then another letter as stated below
JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC
1984 B R A G C K D E L Y S T
1985 J U M P B R A G C K D E
The last 5 numbers after this are just sequence numbers.
Instead of wasting your time going to see the car, only to find out it’s a fake, you could always ask the current owner the phone/email to tell you what the chassis number is. Of course you’ll want to double check the numbers when you eventually view the car.
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^^ :congrats:
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^^ :congrats:
Thanks Steve.. :happy2:
Here you go VC just to wet your apptite...
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Devon Regional Day 199.....Concours... :smiley:
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dude youre a leg end :congrats: gunna print this off :happy2:
its on a C, the postie merely informed me as best he could the basic details as he knows i like the RS's, we only got onto the subject as we were discussing the RS500... and yes everyone past cassa cherry gets their post late :laugh:. I'll speak to him in the morning and try and get all the details to hook up with the owner and then report back :happy2: i'll fill the iphone with images too for your perusal
he was also telling me of a reiger astra GTE but that just doesnt appeal anywhere near like the RS
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dude youre a leg end :congrats: gunna print this off :happy2:
its on a C, the postie merely informed me as best he could the basic details as he knows i like the RS's, we only got onto the subject as we were discussing the RS500... and yes everyone past cassa cherry gets their post late :laugh:. I'll speak to him in the morning and try and get all the details to hook up with the owner and then report back :happy2: i'll fill the iphone with images too for your perusal
he was also telling me of a reiger astra GTE but that just doesnt appeal anywhere near like the RS
Can't wait..... :party:
Nah leave the Astra...go for the Rusty Shovel :happy2:
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Go for it!!! I had 87 sierra 3 door Rs cosworth in moonstone blue, One hell of a car for the time! :happy2:
Dam how i wish i'd just put it in the garage and hung on to it :sad1:
Always wanted a white lighting!
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{want face on!!}
Do it dude!! :party:
Oh and Choppers you are officially the Forum Ford RS Officianado! :nerd: :congrats:
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Got to be worth a look. Used to be in the trade and my passion for a old Golf was well known. Was always being offered minters that belonged to family or a friends friend and were silly cheap. Almost all where sheds expect a Series one, 1 owner Mk1 with 14k on the clock that now resides in my garage :wink:
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Got to be worth a look. Used to be in the trade and my passion for a old Golf was well known. Was always being offered minters that belonged to family or a friends friend and were silly cheap. Almost all where sheds expect a Series one, 1 owner Mk1 with 14k on the clock that now resides in my garage :wink:
Really...come on get the pics up..... :notworthy:
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Oh and Choppers you are officially the Forum Ford RS Officianado! :nerd: :congrats:
Thank you kind sir...... :pomppomp: :notworthy:
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Got to be worth a look. Used to be in the trade and my passion for a old Golf was well known. Was always being offered minters that belonged to family or a friends friend and were silly cheap. Almost all where sheds expect a Series one, 1 owner Mk1 with 14k on the clock that now resides in my garage :wink:
Really...come on get the pics up..... :notworthy:
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Way to go..how many clocks on that dash... :signLOL:
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Thanks chaps, A bit chalk n cheese this and the ED30
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I say go for it MR Cherry. Its about time you had a fast car. :signLOL:
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im an old RS fan boy had loads. Heres a piccie of my last S1
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It sounds as if its a steal @£3k and imo i would snap his hand off. Rust as Moschops states is the biggest worry, parts are like rocking horse sh*t and genuine parts forget it, they fetch telephone numbers now. If that guy knew what he had and its a straight genuine car I'm telling you that is worth £10k to the right person. The car pictured above has 23k on it and is factory fresh. I sold it a good few years ago for £7.5k to a friend. He still has it and has recently been offered £15k for it but he wont sell it!!!!
In my eyes one of the best most iconic cars, period. Wish you local and i would be crawling all over it with you to make sure its 100% GOR FOR IT, even if you dont want to keep it I bet you could double your money on it!!!!!!!!
Smudge
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@ Moschops. Wasn't there something like 2 red and 5 black series 1 turbos made? IRRC princess Diana used to own one of them ?
Now they must be like rocking horse poo... :surprised:
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I think I'm the only guy on this forum who thinks that buying that RS is a waste of time (and money).
Hmm, you've got a glorious V6 R32 and a Landy.. Plus wifey has an Eos(?). What do you need another car for? [am having a 'dad' moment]
That yellow Mk1 Golf is a different story though! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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I think I'm the only guy on this forum who thinks that buying that RS is a waste of time (and money). Yes I think you are Robin (No offence.. :happy2:, Don't forget these cars have a history and pedigree to match, remember rallying in the late 70's and early 80's, Escort RS's, early touring cars, Escort Twin Cams (forerunners to the lengendary RS1600 and RS1800!!. They also have a cult following just like own beloved VW's... :love:
Hmm, you've got a glorious V6 R32 and a Landy.. Plus wifey has an Eos(?). What do you need another car for? [am having a 'dad' moment]
That yellow Mk1 Golf is a different story though! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
I would have a MK1 RS2000 in Modena Green at the drop of a hat... :drool:
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@ Moschops. Wasn't there something like 2 red and 5 black series 1 turbos made? IRRC princess Diana used to own one of them ?
Now they must be like rocking horse poo... :surprised:
Gaz, there seems to be no "offical figures" for these rareties, but I thought it was 6 of each colour, 6 Sunburst Red, 6 Black, 1 Graphite Grey. There was also 2 Azure Blue (Cats Eyes) cars plus another that had been repainted, but the door shuts and under the bonnet were still white.. :stupid: The"official Cats Eye" car is dead, rotted away on some scottish island several years ago. The other one hasn't been seen in along while.
The Factory black ones also have Schwarz stamped into the Body Data plate on the slam panel too... :happy2:
Princess Di's car is alive and well and now in a collection, sold for well into £20k I believe :surprised:
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im an old RS fan boy had loads. Heres a piccie of my last S1
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It sounds as if its a steal @£3k and imo i would snap his hand off. Rust as Moschops states is the biggest worry, parts are like rocking horse sh*t and genuine parts forget it, they fetch telephone numbers now. If that guy knew what he had and its a straight genuine car I'm telling you that is worth £10k to the right person. The car pictured above has 23k on it and is factory fresh. I sold it a good few years ago for £7.5k to a friend. He still has it and has recently been offered £15k for it but he wont sell it!!!!
In my eyes one of the best most iconic cars, period. Wish you local and i would be crawling all over it with you to make sure its 100% GOR FOR IT, even if you dont want to keep it I bet you could double your money on it!!!!!!!!
Smudge
I've seen this car at various shows from yesteryear... :smiley:
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@ Moschops. Wasn't there something like 2 red and 5 black series 1 turbos made? IRRC princess Diana used to own one of them ?
Now they must be like rocking horse poo... :surprised:
Gaz, there seems to be no "offical figures" for these rareties, but I thought it was 6 of each colour, 6 Sunburst Red, 6 Black, 1 Graphite Grey. There was also 2 Azure Blue (Cats Eyes) cars plus another that had been repainted, but the door shuts and under the bonnet were still white.. :stupid: The"official Cats Eye" car is dead, rotted away on some scottish island several years ago. The other one hasn't been seen in along while.
The Factory black ones also have Schwarz stamped into the Body Data plate on the slam panel too... :happy2:
Princess Di's car is alive and well and now in a collection, sold for well into £20k I believe :surprised:
Ah ha! nice one mate :happy2:
you don't half know your RS's :notworthy:
Best sticker I saw on an old RS was "smart aRSe" :grin:
Lottery win for me is a mk1 and a mk2 rs2000. :party:
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no post this morning so no postman :fighting2:
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no post this morning so no postman :fighting2:
Where's the Ban hammer..... :signLOL:
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Well?
I got offered a turbo'd RS1600i years back, still kick myself for not buying that car. I prefer them.
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frustratingly i have no news :ashamed:
the postie did come today but blindly didnt spot the "postie please knock" on the door :sad1:
i might have to sit outside tomorrow morning :laugh:
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Here's some Essex clutter (and a bit of VAG too) to whet your appetite.
Friend of a friend's garage in Germany we stopped in at over the weekend en-route to the Ring.
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Some class machinery there! :surprised:
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wow!
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Oh my! :notworthy: :drool:
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^^^^
Those Escorts are fugly - Always were and always shall be, but I like the Capri.
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proper old school stuff :notworthy:
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Wow...If I'm right the Capri is a very rare RS2600...... :happy2:
Like rocking horse pooh on plastic roses.... :pomppomp:
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It is indeed an RS2600, the MKII is a genuine Zakspeed one too. MKI's are BDAs and the projects will be twin cammed and raced in the 300k this year. All get used on the Ring regularly.
I don't know about fugly, Robin, they're a bit too non-descript to be anything other than just plain. There wasn't much in the way of beauty in the 70's coming out of England unless it was a sports car, everything was drawn with a ruler!
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I don't know about fugly, Robin, they're a bit too non-descript to be anything other than just plain. There wasn't much in the way of beauty in the 70's coming out of England unless it was a sports car, everything was drawn with a ruler!
....That's right :happy2:. And being a driver in the 1970's I don't have fond memories of the automotive styling of the day, so I'm somewhat subjective in my view!
"Plain" is a good descriptor. 'Plain Jane' never did much for me.
I appreciate the modified race ones more though and have very fond memories of regularly seeing Jim Clark @ Silverstone in a Lotus Cortina dicing with Dan Gurney in a big 7-litre Ford Galaxy.. Or was that even earlier!?
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Ahh, the old Touring cars?? - UK vs the Yanks.
Minis, Escorts and Cortinas dicing with Mustangs, Camaros and Galaxies. I love the old footage of that era, wish I could have seen some.
You'd love the Gold Cup at Oulton (http://ticket.motorsportvision.co.uk/calendar/2010/august/100829-gold-cup-op.aspx), think Goodwood does circuit racing.
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I think they cover that era in the Goodwood Revival.
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Ahh, the old Touring cars?? - UK vs the Yanks.
Minis, Escorts and Cortinas dicing with Mustangs, Camaros and Galaxies. I love the old footage of that era, wish I could have seen some.
You'd love the Gold Cup at Oulton (http://ticket.motorsportvision.co.uk/calendar/2010/august/100829-gold-cup-op.aspx), think Goodwood does circuit racing.
....Those were the days I very regularly went to races and even marshalled at Castle Combe.
Lola T70 anyone?
I'm suddenly feeling young again!