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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: tony_danza on January 19, 2009, 03:27:30 pm

Title: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 19, 2009, 03:27:30 pm
Are these basically the speakers from the Soundpack? I was thinking they might be a little bit better OEM wise for if/when I get an RNS510.

Could anyone locate the VW part number, as I suspect as usual they're cheaper from the dealer than ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-SPEAKER-UPGRADE-KIT-GOLF-MK5-PLUS-gamma-beta-sony_W0QQitemZ200298460168QQihZ010QQcategoryZ75319QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: Hurdy on January 19, 2009, 03:36:45 pm
If you can afford aftermarket speakers, go for them instead. VW speakers (even the soundpack ones)aren't very good by any measure. The newer dynaudio upgrade that VW have started doing is much better. For best results go for an aftermarket head unit too :happy2:




Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: stealthwolf on January 19, 2009, 03:42:10 pm
If you don't want to faff around with things like baffles and such, Rainbow produced some speakers for VW mk5 Golf and they're designed to be a straight swap.
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 19, 2009, 03:43:15 pm
Are there any details of the Dynaudio parts knocking about yet?? I don't want/need anything silly - just nicer sounding.

Looking at another Becker as an alternative, but I do like the OEMness of the RCD/RNS-510 and its linked functions to the computer/MMI link.
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: Hurdy on January 19, 2009, 03:46:32 pm
I've not seen any ebay sales on them yet, but the Dynaudio pack sounds decent in the Passat. Not heard it in the Eos though. I can entirely understand your OEM+ fetish too :happy2:
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2009, 03:56:06 pm
you cant beat the RNS 510 for OEM'ness. ass a JL cleansweep and amp to that and you have sound quality to match any aftermarket HU.

The RNS 510 deserves the JL cleansweep cos its sooo nice!
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 19, 2009, 04:07:05 pm
The Rainbow stuff sounds interesting, Dynaudio would be the ideal - basically so long as it's not too expensive and sounds ok, as this will be a fit and forget mod, so it has to be OEM+. No custom installs etc..

Amps and subs are well off my radar Jay! you can only listen to radio 2 so loudly!!
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: Hurdy on January 19, 2009, 04:16:33 pm
I'd rip all my speaker out if I had to listen to Radio 2 all the time :signLOL: :rolleye:
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 19, 2009, 04:19:08 pm
Get out!.. bit of Wogan on the way into work, superb.
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2009, 05:20:35 pm
haha! well...at least your over the hill rather than buried under it! ;)
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: stealthwolf on January 19, 2009, 05:24:37 pm
It's rainbow's IQ line that fit VW Golfs mkv without adjustment:

IQ 220.25 Front - VW Golf 5
2-Way Component system
8 inch Woofer
Max. 150 Watt
Part number: 231221
Factory location: Front door, Mirror triangle or Rear door

IQ 320.25 Front - VW Golf 5
3-Way Component system
8 inch Woofer
Max. 180 Watt
Part number: 231403
Factory location: Front door, Dashboard, Mirror Triangle

IQ 165 CX Rear - VW Golf 5
2-Way Coaxial system
6.5 inch Woofer
Max. 120 Watt
Part number: 231550
Factory location: Rear door[/b]
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: JPC on January 19, 2009, 05:27:34 pm
v pricey!

450 for the front! bet there great tho, theres no point spending that on 3 ways if your not going to amp them tho
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 19, 2009, 06:43:52 pm
Pah! big portion of nuts to them, I've better things to spend £450 on!!
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: SteveP on January 19, 2009, 07:34:41 pm
The Rainbow stuff sounds interesting, Dynaudio would be the ideal - basically so long as it's not too expensive and sounds ok, as this will be a fit and forget mod, so it has to be OEM+. No custom installs etc..

Amps and subs are well off my radar Jay! you can only listen to radio 2 so loudly!!

IMHO Your only going to see the full benefit of the Dynaudio stuff if you source the full amp setup, I am keeping my eye out for an Eos being broken for spares with this option as like Hurdy said in the Passat it sounds very good  :smiley:

What age is your car Mike?

It's an older model then you might already have the 10 speaker setup which combined with the RNS/RCD-510 will produce a noticably better sound than the RCD-300.

If you have only got the 8 speakers 
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: garethmk1 on January 19, 2009, 11:40:00 pm
I've got the RCD510 with the 10 speaker soundpack, also has some sort of amplifier under the passenger seat - sounds ok actually, not bad for a factory setup.
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 20, 2009, 08:52:45 am
Yeah Steve, I'd be looking for the whole Dynaudio stuff out of a wrecker too.

Mine's a Sept '06 car - haven't a clue how many speakers it has, and what's this amp under the seat lark? Surely they wouldn't fit that to non-soundpack cars, but it might be had quite cheaply and the wiring may already be there for it??

I remember in my MKIV as soon as I replaced the VW unit with a Becker, it sounded a million times better on the standard speakers alone... so I'm hoping a bit of OEM tweaking of some sort and a RCD/RNS will improve matters.
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: fastismycopilot on January 20, 2009, 09:51:03 am
For the people talking about Dynaudio stuff it may be worth visiting here:

http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/vw-golf-gti-forum/105966-gti-dynaudio-possible.html (http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/vw-golf-gti-forum/105966-gti-dynaudio-possible.html)

and here:

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/index.php (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/index.php)

for opinions and info.
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 20, 2009, 10:02:47 am
Cheers Jim, I'll have a read through.

Mike.
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: fastismycopilot on January 20, 2009, 11:43:30 am
No problem Mike,

General opinion seems to favour these:

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/default_en.htm (http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/default_en.htm)

Prices...... dunno! Don't seem to be at the high end of the market though.

I'm tempted now too. Curse these damn forums!  :laugh:
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: SteveP on January 20, 2009, 12:07:54 pm
No problem Mike,

General opinion seems to favour these:

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/default_en.htm (http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/default_en.htm)

Prices...... dunno! Don't seem to be at the high end of the market though.

I'm tempted now too. Curse these damn forums!  :laugh:

Hurdy has the Hertz 3 way comps in his ED30 with a Kenwood Double DIN Head Unit IIRC and spoke very highly of them  :happy2:
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 20, 2009, 12:42:43 pm
I tried reading those forums, but zoned out when they started talking about "soundstages" and such... ahh Vienna!

I think I'm pretty much sold on the Soundpack upgrade and an RNS/RCD. I just need to find out if my car has the extra speakers already and how that amp goes in under the seat?
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: SteveP on January 20, 2009, 01:10:16 pm
I tried reading those forums, but zoned out when they started talking about "soundstages" and such... ahh Vienna!

I think I'm pretty much sold on the Soundpack upgrade and an RNS/RCD. I just need to find out if my car has the extra speakers already and how that amp goes in under the seat?

I think for the effort required to add the soundpack amp, additional wiring loom and recoding the car it might be worth just trying it with the RCD/RNS510 headunit first.  :smiley:


Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: tony_danza on January 20, 2009, 01:14:19 pm
That's actually a very good idea!  :happy2:
Title: Re: VW Soundpack speakers?
Post by: Hurdy on January 20, 2009, 01:57:28 pm
Good Idea that Steve :happy2:

You do need an amp to power the front comps to get the best from them though, otherwise they will not have anough power to give the clarity you seek young padowan :nerd: