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Title: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 29, 2010, 06:32:48 pm
Hi Guys,

Just finished my first real good go at getting my new car into some sort of decent standard.

Been on the car off & on since friday afternoon with the weather :mad:........Anyway  I am very happy with how it's turned out, now I need to build up the polish/wax to keep that shine.

Only come across one issue... I have a small patch about the size of a 50p piece on the passenger side of the roof that will not shift at all .....it's quite rough to touch and it looks like it's had something stuck on there and been left for quite sometime, it's definatley not the paint work blistering.

Have you got any suggestions of what I can use to shift it as I have tried all sorts.

Hope you like the pics :happy2:


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Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Saint Steve on May 29, 2010, 06:54:09 pm
Your pictures are RED X's  :signLOL:

Cant see them!! :sad1:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: vRS_Pagey on May 29, 2010, 07:11:57 pm
+ 1
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 07:13:55 pm
+ 1

+2
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 29, 2010, 07:43:06 pm
Your pictures are RED X's  :signLOL:

Cant see them!! :sad1:

Should be ok now not too hot on a computer yet  :ashamed:

Another question...What cam I do with my tailpipes they are a disgrace :sick:..I dont think I can salvage them they have seen better days I'm afraid

Thanks for looking
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 07:44:23 pm

Pics back on :)

My miltek tailpipes came up good (from black) with metal polish and elbow grease.  Think it was auto glym metal polish  :happy2:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 29, 2010, 07:49:40 pm
These are seriously bad do you think I could get them somewhere near?

I'm prepared to have a go but I though I would be wasting my time?
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 07:51:21 pm

Mine were thick black with errm coke or whatever you'd call it.  Its deffinately worth a go.

Some auto sol or autoglym metal polish and a bit of rubbing  :wink:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 29, 2010, 07:54:30 pm
I'll go to Halfrauds then I'll keep you posted.....Any idea's how to get that mark off my roof ??
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: stealthwolf on May 29, 2010, 07:57:04 pm
For tailpipes, I try to wash them without letting water enter the exhaust. Then degreaser to get all the coke stuff off. Then autosol metal polish and microfibre cloth. 
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 29, 2010, 07:57:24 pm
There are some car care / detailing Gurus on here that Im sure will be along soon to help  :smiley:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: stealthwolf on May 29, 2010, 07:58:23 pm
As for the rough patch, could be anything. If it's bird poo that's been baked on, could have damaged the clear coat to the point where it can only be cured by respray.
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: stealthwolf on May 29, 2010, 07:59:15 pm
There are some car care / detailing Gurus on here that Im sure will be along soon to help  :smiley:
+1. I'm sure JPC will be along shortly to put you on the right track. Might help to take some pics of the offending area.
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 29, 2010, 08:02:20 pm
As for the rough patch, could be anything. If it's bird poo that's been baked on, could have damaged the clear coat to the point where it can only be cured by respray.

mmmmm That might be the cause?  I'll take some Pics & post them up, probably on Monday :happy2:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: VC on May 29, 2010, 08:05:02 pm
if your tailpipes are evil then fine grade wire wool will get the soot off 100%  :happy2:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: GTI_Daz on May 29, 2010, 08:08:04 pm
My tips were beyond polishing. i took them to Pipewerx and got my old ones cut off and shiney new ones fitted  :grin:

coupled that with a high flow sports cat i bought from Aparoon on here also from pipewerx and i love it
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 29, 2010, 08:59:24 pm
My tips were beyond polishing. i took them to Pipewerx and got my old ones cut off and shiney new ones fitted  :grin:

Daz is that not cheating  :laugh:
Where in the north east would I get that done? Am I right in thinking they fit on top of the pipe ends like a sleeve ?
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: GTI_Daz on May 29, 2010, 09:33:12 pm
they cut the ends off then welded the new tips on to replace the old ones. very simple and they have a selection in the workshop that you can choose from  :happy2:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: P80RSY on May 30, 2010, 12:45:19 am

Where in the north east would I get that done? Am I right in thinking they fit on top of the pipe ends like a sleeve ?

AAS in newcastle will be able to do this you can choose / Tyre Spot in newcastle also do powerflow exhaust (custom but not supposed to be the best) but it's only tips. :happy2:

Have you clayed the car at all or have you just gone straight for the polish ?

Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Tuffy on May 30, 2010, 04:20:51 pm
Regarding the mark on the roof, if you think it is definatly something stuck to it then try a little AG intensive tar remover.
If it is lacquer peal from bird muck not alot you can do about that really without the help from a bodyshop.
My tail pipes looked like they had never been cleaned when i bought the car. Soaked them with AG engine  cleaner and scrub, then wire wool with metal polish and repeat several times!!!!  :scared:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 30, 2010, 06:43:39 pm

Have you clayed the car at all or have you just gone straight for the polish ?



This is the order of the Mr Punch detail....Had a VERY VERY bad experiance with clay once after buying some from a show when I had a Audi TT never used it since  :scared:

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And sometimes I use this on any slight swirls / light scratches

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Anyone else use these products ?

Thanks for looking  :wink:







 
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: stealthwolf on May 30, 2010, 06:53:03 pm
What wrong with the claying? It's an awesome experience. most of your products look like you bought them from halfrauds in which case buy the megs smooth surface clay kit. There's a thread on how to use it somewhere in the detailing section.

Otherwise I've found the endurance tyre gel to be better than the other stuff. Hot Rims can be a bit harsh so would use only if the wheels were very dirty.
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: craigy123 on May 30, 2010, 07:16:07 pm
00 grade wire wool and a decent metal polish should do the trick if there saveable mate, and it sounds like bird etching on the roof, get a pic up  :happy2:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Gene Hunt on May 31, 2010, 10:38:57 am
Did mine this way as they were black & looked like they had never been cleaned from day one.Other option is bin the exhaust & get a Milltek,thats what i did.(other systems are avaliable). :signLOL:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 31, 2010, 07:27:47 pm
00 grade wire wool and a decent metal polish should do the trick if there saveable mate, and it sounds like bird etching on the roof, get a pic up  :happy2:

These pics make it look really bad & it does not look white like the photo's it looks black like the car but rough to touch :surprised:

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Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: JPC on May 31, 2010, 07:33:13 pm
The 50p spot could be lime etching left by a birds dinner ;) if so it won't appear like a patch of scratches. Mainly it will look bubbly (but flat) and can sometimes make paint look dull.

If it is that, then it's not really something your average hobbyist can sort. When I come across it, 8 times out of 10 it can be sorted withwet sanding the area.

I would always ask the customer first though, it's up to them how I deal with it. It can remove 10 or so microns to shift the evidence of bird etchings.

Hth

Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 31, 2010, 08:11:44 pm
The 50p spot could be lime etching left by a birds dinner ;) if so it won't appear like a patch of scratches. Mainly it will look bubbly (but flat) and can sometimes make paint look dull.

If it is that, then it's not really something your average hobbyist can sort. When I come across it, 8 times out of 10 it can be sorted withwet sanding the area.

I would always ask the customer first though, it's up to them how I deal with it. It can remove 10 or so microns to shift the evidence of bird etchings.

Hth


Hmmmm wet sanding sounds like trouble....Are you anywhere near the north east?...Whats a micron by the way?

Thanks
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 31, 2010, 08:12:57 pm
What wrong with the claying? It's an awesome experience.

Sometime ago now I owned a Audi TT, I attended a Car show in Yorkshire & watched a demo on how to clay.......

 I was hooked........I bought some not cheap I may add..........The following day I carried out the procedure....... I scratched the full back passenger quarter I was destroyed I could not believe I did this?  or the clay exposed what may or may not of been there already??????

I had not had the car long a couple of weeks tops... had the dealer covered this up & the clay unearthed the scratches I dont know anyway I have never used it since.

I dont think I would of caused that much damage if I used wire wool.....And no I did not drop the clay...I just put it down to experience and never went near it again.
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: stealthwolf on May 31, 2010, 08:25:15 pm
Did you use lubrication in the form of quick detailer? Did you wash down the surface to get of any loose grit etc? Did you drop the claybar on the ground? What grade was it?

If done properly and with enough lubrication you should never incur scratches from claybar use.

I would honestly recommend claying. Try it again.
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on May 31, 2010, 08:44:32 pm
Did you use lubrication in the form of quick detailer? Did you wash down the surface to get of any loose grit etc? Did you drop the claybar on the ground? What grade was it?

If done properly and with enough lubrication you should never incur scratches from claybar use.

I would honestly recommend claying. Try it again.

I did not use any lube...I did wash the car prior though :innocent:

I dont know what grade it was it came in a tin and it was yellow and they were detailing a very expensive Porsche from Malton Specialist Cars..with the same stuff I'm sure they were using just water as lube? It cost me £65 :mad:

I may have another go but I'd like to see it done again by somebody who knows what they are doing... maybe I did not pay enough attention last time :ashamed:

Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: JPC on June 01, 2010, 10:53:20 am
it was probably Swissvax clay if it was from malton.

still waaaaay expensive! they must be used to fleecing their customers! haha!

You cant clay without lube mate, thats what has happened. i wouldnt have thought you have done any lasting damage, just lots of marring!
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on June 01, 2010, 11:33:15 am
Looking back now it was probably not as bad as I thought at the time....However it still knocked me sick :sick:

Your definition of marring...... can you describe this a little better for me to understand what marring is? :confused:

I am tempted to have another go at claying but I will probably only do one area just in case. :chicken:

What do you recommend ? I could probably dig out the yellow clay it will be in the garage somewhere....does it have a shelf life?
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: stealthwolf on June 01, 2010, 06:28:20 pm
I've never used the swissvax stuff. JPC prolly has a better idea. Personally I'd just start off with megs smooth surface kit. Comes with two bars of clay, lube, cloth. Also comes with cleaner wax though I've never used this stuff. All from your local halfrauds.
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: P80RSY on June 01, 2010, 07:35:14 pm
I have clayed my last 2 cars with no probs, there is a great detailing shop in chester

http://www.nedetailing.co.uk/

Very helpfull loads of products to choose from. :happy2:

If you anywhere near Durham and want to try a Megs G220 to try to remove it give me a shout you free to give it a go.
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on June 07, 2010, 12:41:02 pm
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If you anywhere near Durham and want to try a Megs G220 to try to remove it give me a shout you free to give it a go.
[/quote]

Thank-You for the offer..I'm from Hartlepool not that far from you.........However I have just ordered myself some Lube & Clay off flea bay  :scared: :scared:

I'll give this claying another go even though I said I never would again :stupid:

We will see what happens, I may still need to take you up on your offer though   :wink:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: P80RSY on June 07, 2010, 06:00:48 pm
no problem  :smiley: just drop me a pm if you ever want to give it a go

claying is good but machine polishing over arm ache gives 100% better reults just got some super soft red pads from chester, they work a treat having a black car is a major pain spent 8 hours,
Clay
SSR 2.5
SSR 2
SSR 1
BLACK HOLE
WAX AND SELAT


Results are amazing will be posting some pics up ext week whe the ew bumper and exhaust are fitted friday  :jumping:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on June 07, 2010, 11:15:58 pm
no problem  :smiley: just drop me a pm if you ever want to give it a go

claying is good but machine polishing over arm ache gives 100% better reults just got some super soft red pads from chester, they work a treat having a black car is a major pain spent 8 hours,
Clay
SSR 2.5
SSR 2
SSR 1
BLACK HOLE
WAX AND SELAT


Results are amazing will be posting some pics up ext week whe the ew bumper and exhaust are fitted friday  :jumping:




Sounds great looking forward to the pics....... 8 Hours thats a full shift  :happy2: a days work mate without pay aswell  :congrats: :congrats:
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Ifti on June 08, 2010, 12:56:34 pm
Exhaust needs some 00 grade wire wool, some Autosol Metal Polish, and plenty of enbow grease!!

I have tons of wire wool if you want some mate - may even be able to dig out some autosol metal polish as well.
I used to use it on my ED30, but since I sol dthat I dont really use it on my soot chucker any more!

In reagrds to the patch on the roof - that doesnt look like bird poo to me. Thats looks like bloody Eagle Poo!
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Gti_Mad on June 08, 2010, 01:05:43 pm
were abouts are you ifti as i was thinkin off givin me exhaust a scrub 2 lol
Title: Re: My first polish one little issue.
Post by: Mr Punch on June 08, 2010, 03:12:43 pm
Exhaust needs some 00 grade wire wool, some Autosol Metal Polish, and plenty of enbow grease!!

I have tons of wire wool if you want some mate - may even be able to dig out some autosol metal polish as well.
I used to use it on my ED30, but since I sol dthat I dont really use it on my soot chucker any more!

In reagrds to the patch on the roof - that doesnt look like bird poo to me. Thats looks like bloody Eagle Poo!


Hi IFTI,

I had my first go at my tips at the weekend see this link
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15448.0.html

The car lived in Cardiff..... before I got it........ a couple of weeks ago.

Is Cardiff full of eagles like?? :laugh:

I thought it was full of Bluebirds, Bluebirds.........

Anyhow they have made a right mess of my roof top :mad:.

Just waiting for my clay & lube see if that shifts it???? :happy2: