MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: golfman on June 01, 2010, 06:08:45 pm
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Guys as you probably know i now have xenons on my car(fitted by the vw god MR MORTIMER :notworthy: )
what im wondering is that on mk6 golfs they have daytime running lights and i was wondering if i can use my fogs as daytime running lights or will that be against the LAW :P
cheers
scott
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Cue Red leader :laugh:
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Red Leader on cue!
Check out this: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1917.0.html
Fogs are fogs and DRL's are DRL's - They are different kinds of light and each subject to different laws. Currently you can't legally run your fogs as DRL's in the UK, or Europe AFAIK.
HTH :happy2:
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Guys as you probably know i now have xenons on my car(fitted by the vw god MR MORTIMER :notworthy: )
what im wondering is that on mk6 golfs they have daytime running lights and i was wondering if i can use my fogs as daytime running lights or will that be against the LAW :P
cheers
scott
Have you got the bi-xenons fully functional? I've been wondering about whether you could convert the halogen high-beams to DRLs like on Audis and Mk6
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....I prefer Boost bars. Hurdy introduced me to those on our 'Ring trip and I got one waiting in the fridge :party:
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Difference between RR's fridge and Tom's S3?
Your fridge has Boost!
:booty: :booty: :booty: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
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Guys as you probably know i now have xenons on my car(fitted by the vw god MR MORTIMER :notworthy: )
what im wondering is that on mk6 golfs they have daytime running lights and i was wondering if i can use my fogs as daytime running lights or will that be against the LAW :P
cheers
scott
Have you got the bi-xenons fully functional? I've been wondering about whether you could convert the halogen high-beams to DRLs like on Audis and Mk6
....By fundamental definition, a true DRL is a passive light, so halogen active beams don't cut it as far as I know.
Problem is that some countries, UK in particular, are unwilling to agree with a common Euro standard.
Having DRL's isn't simply a matter of running in daytime with any lights on.
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Difference between RR's fridge and Tom's S3?
Your fridge has Boost!
:booty: :booty: :booty: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
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That's extremely funny! But a little cruel - Good job you know each other well :happy2:
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Oh god what have i started!!!! :sad1:
i might have been better sending you a pm red
scott
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Difference between RR's fridge and Tom's S3?
Your fridge has Boost!
:booty: :booty: :booty: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
LMAO!!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :signLOL: :signLOL:
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:signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
"Quality" Responce Dave!!
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Guys as you probably know i now have xenons on my car(fitted by the vw god MR MORTIMER :notworthy: )
what im wondering is that on mk6 golfs they have daytime running lights and i was wondering if i can use my fogs as daytime running lights or will that be against the LAW :P
cheers
scott
Have you got the bi-xenons fully functional? I've been wondering about whether you could convert the halogen high-beams to DRLs like on Audis and Mk6
....By fundamental definition, a true DRL is a passive light, so halogen active beams don't cut it as far as I know.
Problem is that some countries, UK in particular, are unwilling to agree with a common Euro standard.
Having DRL's isn't simply a matter of running in daytime with any lights on.
Convert being the operative word here RR - I wasn't suggesting just using the existing set-up. TBH, I rarely turn my lights off anyway. May well recode with Scandanavian set-up when I finally order my VCDS cable.
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Oh god what have i started!!!! :sad1:
i might have been better sending you a pm red
scott
....I'm glad you didn't. It's better to share discussion and learn things publicly and it's afterall what we're here for.. partly.
I get too many PM's asking things which are better discussed publicly and which others might answer better than myself.
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Convert being the operative word here RR - I wasn't suggesting just using the existing set-up. TBH, I rarely turn my lights off anyway. May well recode with Scandanavian set-up when I finally order my VCDS cable.
....Sorry, I missed the importance of "convert". Why not just buy a Volvo? :evilgrin:
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Oh god what have i started!!!! :sad1:
i might have been better sending you a pm red
scott
....I'm glad you didn't. It's better to share discussion and learn things publicly and it's afterall what we're here for.. partly.
I get too many PM's asking things which are better discussed publicly and which others might answer better than myself.
Can you give me a link or a phone number to buy these please or an idea of price red :happy2:
cheers
scott
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Can you give me a link or a phone number to buy these please or an idea of price red :happy2:
cheers
scott
....Let me make sure I understand correctly: You're thinking of having the same DRL's as mine and wanting a source and approx costs?
Well, you may be in luck because you don't have a GTI and Hella already offer a unit for the Mk5 Golf which doesn't need to modify the fog panels.
http://www.daytime-running-light.com/index_uk.html > Go to link to UK page > Retrofit > you'll see your Golf!!
Hella UK is pretty useless I found [as is Recaro's UK agent, and OZ Racing's! WTF is wrong with British 'agents'!?], so email Hella Germany, unless things have changed since my efforts a while ago.
They have also recently produced these: http://www.daytime-running-light.com/index_uk.html
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Convert being the operative word here RR - I wasn't suggesting just using the existing set-up. TBH, I rarely turn my lights off anyway. May well recode with Scandanavian set-up when I finally order my VCDS cable.
....Sorry, I missed the importance of "convert". Why not just buy a Volvo? :evilgrin:
I did consider C30... :laugh:
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Well that special trackday version C30 which was recently posted about would be very desirable. I considered it too once upon a time.
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Guys as you probably know i now have xenons on my car(fitted by the vw god MR MORTIMER :notworthy: )
what im wondering is that on mk6 golfs they have daytime running lights and i was wondering if i can use my fogs as daytime running lights or will that be against the LAW :P
cheers
scott
I think these daytime running lights all look great, I like the strip ones the best.
However when I have my car polished up I like to show it off...... I drive with my side lights on with my front fogs only during the day though not at night unless it's foggy. :innocent:
It makes people look at my pride & joy and also it alerts them to move out of the way. :grin:
Would they send me to jail for this?????....... surely not. :scared:
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However when I have my car polished up I like to show it off...... I drive with my side lights on with my front fogs only during the day though not at night unless it's foggy. :innocent:
It makes people look at my pride & joy and also it alerts them to move out of the way. :grin:
Would they send me to jail for this?????....... surely not. :scared:
Have i read this correctly. :confused: You like to drive round of a day with your front fog lights on to show it off. :stupid:
I take it you drive a Nova and have drilled lots of holes in your exhaust.
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However when I have my car polished up I like to show it off...... I drive with my side lights on with my front fogs only during the day though not at night unless it's foggy. :innocent:
It makes people look at my pride & joy and also it alerts them to move out of the way. :grin:
Would they send me to jail for this?????....... surely not. :scared:
Have i read this correctly. :confused: You like to drive round of a day with your front fog lights on to show it off. :stupid:
I take it you drive a Nova and have drilled lots of holes in your exhaust.
If I take it for a drive up through the Yorkshire Moors on the winding roads etc... It just alerts people & it's easier to see me coming I don't think I would be blinding anyone in the day time.
Pretty much like a motorbike during the day that's all :ashamed:
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I think these daytime running lights all look great, I like the strip ones the best.
However when I have my car polished up I like to show it off...... I drive with my side lights on with my front fogs only during the day though not at night unless it's foggy. :innocent:
It makes people look at my pride & joy and also it alerts them to move out of the way. :grin:
Would they send me to jail for this?????....... surely not. :scared:
....Mr Punch, please read my DRL's Review thread (link in Reply #2) and hopefully understand the differences in types of lights and why.
Locally, the police have been having a campaign against the use of fogs when it's not foggy. I got stopped but apologised to when they learnt I had proper DRL's and correctly wired. Points and a fine await you.
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Guys as you probably know i now have xenons on my car(fitted by the vw god MR MORTIMER :notworthy: )
what im wondering is that on mk6 golfs they have daytime running lights and i was wondering if i can use my fogs as daytime running lights or will that be against the LAW :P
cheers
scott
I think these daytime running lights all look great, I like the strip ones the best.
However when I have my car polished up I like to show it off...... I drive with my side lights on with my front fogs only during the day though not at night unless it's foggy. :innocent:
It makes people look at my pride & joy and also it alerts them to move out of the way. :grin:
Would they send me to jail for this?????....... surely not. :scared:
If you have Front fogs on I wouldn't be to sure that they thinking how nice the car looks :wink:
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I think these daytime running lights all look great, I like the strip ones the best.
However when I have my car polished up I like to show it off...... I drive with my side lights on with my front fogs only during the day though not at night unless it's foggy. :innocent:
It makes people look at my pride & joy and also it alerts them to move out of the way. :grin:
Would they send me to jail for this?????....... surely not. :scared:
....Mr Punch, please read my DRL's Review thread (link in Reply #2) and hopefully understand the differences in types of lights and why.
Locally, the police have been having a campaign against the use of fogs when it's not foggy. I got stopped but apologised to when they learnt I had proper DRL's and correctly wired. Points and a fine await you.
I did not realise this I wont be doing that again did not realise you got Points & a Fine.. :surprised:
Thanks for letting me know :happy2: :ashamed:
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i only think audi's look good with DRL's and any other car that comes with them STANDARD. every mk4 golf on A8 reps around my area has them, they look gash now!
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I did not realise this I wont be doing that again did not realise you got Points & a Fine.. :surprised:
Thanks for letting me know :happy2: :ashamed:
....Well I'm not 100% sure about the points/fine but you'd certainly get a warning and they'd be looking out for you. It is technically against the law as I understand it.
It's best not to take the piss with police, especially if you're known locally. Being cooperative and friendly can help you when it comes down to their discretion.
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I did not realise this I wont be doing that again did not realise you got Points & a Fine.. :surprised:
Thanks for letting me know :happy2: :ashamed:
....Well I'm not 100% sure about the points/fine but you'd certainly get a warning and they'd be looking out for you. It is technically against the law as I understand it.
It's best not to take the piss with police, especially if you're known locally. Being cooperative and friendly can help you when it comes down to their discretion.
Thanks RedRobin,
I totally get your meaning the county car that snakes around town would love to give me a tug with ref to "if you're known locally" :happy2:
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I did not realise this I wont be doing that again did not realise you got Points & a Fine.. :surprised:
Thanks for letting me know :happy2: :ashamed:
....Well I'm not 100% sure about the points/fine but you'd certainly get a warning and they'd be looking out for you. It is technically against the law as I understand it.
It's an offense - it's in the Highway Code!!
The LED message boards in the back of Police cars actually have a 'FOGS OFF' instruction because so many numpties think it's 'cool' to drive around with fogs on. :fighting:
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I did not realise this I wont be doing that again did not realise you got Points & a Fine.. :surprised:
Thanks for letting me know :happy2: :ashamed:
....Well I'm not 100% sure about the points/fine but you'd certainly get a warning and they'd be looking out for you. It is technically against the law as I understand it.
It's an offense - it's in the Highway Code!!
The LED message boards in the back of Police cars actually have a 'FOGS OFF' instruction because so many numpties think it's 'cool' to drive around with fogs on. :fighting:
....I'm looking forward to seeing that 'FOGS OFF' sign :evilgrin:
Hey, the Highway Code has changed since I knew it 40 years ago and I don't regularly read it.
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I did not realise this I wont be doing that again did not realise you got Points & a Fine.. :surprised:
Thanks for letting me know :happy2: :ashamed:
....Well I'm not 100% sure about the points/fine but you'd certainly get a warning and they'd be looking out for you. It is technically against the law as I understand it.
It's an offense - it's in the Highway Code!!
The LED message boards in the back of Police cars actually have a 'FOGS OFF' instruction because so many numpties think it's 'cool' to drive around with fogs on. :fighting:
....I'm looking forward to seeing that 'FOGS OFF' sign :evilgrin:
Hey, the Highway Code has changed since I knew it 40 years ago and I don't regularly read it.
You should, ignorance is not a defense! :wink: :happy2:
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It's an offense - it's in the Highway Code!!
The LED message boards in the back of Police cars actually have a 'FOGS OFF' instruction because so many numpties think it's 'cool' to drive around with fogs on. :fighting:
....I'm looking forward to seeing that 'FOGS OFF' sign :evilgrin:
Hey, the Highway Code has changed since I knew it 40 years ago and I don't regularly read it.
You should, ignorance is not a defense! :wink: :happy2:
....There's lots of things I should do but don't :evilgrin:. I do read the Police Drivers Handbook though :P
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Xenons can run DRLs with just a bit of coding
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85932 (http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85932)
If you run white LED's you can get a nice effect, don't know how legal it is though
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You can code the side/parking-lights (aka city lights) to be on all the time - but even with retro fitted LEDS, by all accounts, they arent very bright.
Good suggestion though, probably the easiest option.
Legally, I can't see an issue with these provided you dont drive with just these on when it starts to get dark (it's yet another offense to drive with only side lights unless you are in a street-lit 30mph zone)
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You can code the side/parking-lights (aka city lights) to be on all the time - but even with retro fitted LEDS, by all accounts, they arent very bright.
Good suggestion though, probably the easiest option.
Legally, I can't see an issue with these provided you dont drive with just these on when it starts to get dark (it's yet another offense to drive with only side lights unless you are in a street-lit 30mph zone)
....You seem to know an awful lot about the Highway Code, animal :evilgrin:
My thoughts too: The 'DRL' sidelight not bright enough to do the job effectively at 120 mph on the autobahn, and doubtful at 70 in the UK either.
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You can code the side/parking-lights (aka city lights) to be on all the time - but even with retro fitted LEDS, by all accounts, they arent very bright.
Good suggestion though, probably the easiest option.
Legally, I can't see an issue with these provided you dont drive with just these on when it starts to get dark (it's yet another offense to drive with only side lights unless you are in a street-lit 30mph zone)
....You seem to know an awful lot about the Highway Code, animal :evilgrin:
My thoughts too: The 'DRL' sidelight not bright enough to do the job effectively at 120 mph on the autobahn, and doubtful at 70 in the UK either.
I like yellow's proposition on the DRL.... concur with animal as well... easist option, minimal fuss...need bright LED for max effectiveness. will post pix when mod is done.. in 2-3 weeks
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I like yellow's proposition on the DRL.... concur with animal as well... easist option, minimal fuss...need bright LED for max effectiveness. will post pix when mod is done.. in 2-3 weeks
....Yep, brightness is essential for DRL's to be effective and not for them to be merely any lights which you switch on in the daytime, but not dazzling bright like even dipped headlights are.
Yellow's option is much cheaper and easier than what I did (no surprises there, eh :grin:).
When it's done I may add it to my DRL Review as another option. :happy2:
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What can I say RR - I like to be informed. If I don't know something, I like to go and look it up. My pet hate (after chav HID kits and front fogs lights on when it's not foggy) are people who drive with parking lights on at dusk or when it's raining. I got caught up in a somewhat lively 'discussion' on another forum many moons ago regarding the legality of driving with side/parking lights on, so decided to get clued up on the law.
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What can I say RR - I like to be informed. If I don't know something, I like to go and look it up. My pet hate (after chav HID kits and front fogs lights on when it's not foggy) are people who drive with parking lights on at dusk or when it's raining. I got caught up in a somewhat lively 'discussion' on another forum many moons ago regarding the legality of driving with side/parking lights on, so decided to get clued up on the law.
....R E S P E C T to you!
Thank goodness you realise that my 'fogs' are proper Euro-legal built-for-purpose DRL's!! It became quite an involved project trying to fit them but I'm extremely pleased with the results and think that they are a real-world extra safety feature. A bit like how my Recaro tilt release 'project' is shaping up to be quite involved!
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Calling the stokey balloonist.. Have you ran out of popcorn yet? :grin:
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Robin you should change then for a straight version rather then looking like fog lamp bulbs. Kinda like the Golf R's type. Just an idea maybe??
Please Dont shoot me :ashamed:
Then there is no argument. :happy2:
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Robin you should change then for a straight version rather then looking like fog lamp bulbs. Kinda like the Golf R's type. Just an idea maybe??
Please Dont shoot me :ashamed:
Then there is no argument. :happy2:
....Straight or strip LED versions is what I originally wanted to do but the reasons why I couldn't are all in my Review. To change them now would be using money I'd much rather spend on TT wishbones, half-roll-cage, and trackdays on the 'Ring. As I said, I'm very happy with what I've got, especially with the carbon foglight vented panels - It looks more subtle and vaguely oem to those who don't know. :happy2: