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Title: iPhone 4
Post by: cmdrfire on June 07, 2010, 07:12:05 pm
Gizmodo Liveblog here:
http://live.gizmodo.com/

and GDGT's liveblog here:
http://live.gdgt.com/2010/06/07/live-wwdc-2010-keynote-coverage/

and already a definitive guide here:
http://gizmodo.com/5557101/iphone-4-the-definitive-guide

Thoughts: hardware looks as sexy as fsck. The fact that metal strips on the side act as the antenna really hit the nerd in me. That's some super elegant design; and I don't even mind too much when Jobs compares it to a Leica.

Chip is a based on a Coretex A8; I got a Coretex devkit about a year ago and was very impressed. Long battery life. That super sexy industrial design again. Ultrahires screen and a proper camera built in. Edit video clips on the fly. Oh my. I <3 HTC but they really got nothing on this. I just wonder how long it'll be before someone puts Android on it...
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: GTIjames on June 07, 2010, 07:26:17 pm
looks good to me and I will be most certainly purchasing it the day it comes out  :happy2:

but why oh why would you want to put android on it   :confused:  it would be like buying a ferrari then swapping the engine with one from a lawnmower  :stupid:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: stealthwolf on June 07, 2010, 07:35:36 pm
I have the 3GS but not a mahoosive fan of it. Great for general larking about and the average user but for me, not what I want in terms of functionality.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2010, 07:51:47 pm
So whens it out then ? (over here)
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 07:58:07 pm
Gets released in UK on 24th June  :party: :party: :party:

iOS4 released on 21st June :party: :party: :party:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2010, 08:01:39 pm
Gets released in UK on 24th June  :party: :party: :party:

iOS4 released on 21st June :party: :party: :party:

relly, now where do i pre order lol
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 07, 2010, 08:02:33 pm
so going to be in the Q for this  :jumpmove: and did i see above cmdfire saying he likes an apple product  :evilgrin: got u now  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: GTIjames on June 07, 2010, 08:03:55 pm
24th thanks Carl   :happy2:, especially since i lost mine which I'd had since 3g release day the weekend before last  :sad1:

but this looks immense, alot more business like than the 3g/s and you can record in 720psHD and then edit your clips with imovie on the phone, they are claiming a 300hr standby and the screen display is better than oled

doubt it will be cheap, but certainly worth it, just pleased i have got £350 insurance payout coming for my old one  :happy2:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:08:34 pm
Gets released in UK on 24th June  :party: :party: :party:

iOS4 released on 21st June :party: :party: :party:

relly, now where do i pre order lol

Pre-Orders start on 15th June.

Thing is your going to have to get a New Contract as they take Micro-Sims so not as if you can buy a handset and put in your old card.

They are priced in the US at

16GB - $199
32GB - $299

With a contract so no doubt i would expect around the same in the UK but swap the $ for a £ symbol.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Alexander on June 07, 2010, 08:10:05 pm
I'm locked into a contract with O2 until feb 11 so wont be getting the new iPhone anytime soon :sad:
However... I am massively excited about getting OS4 on my 3GS :party: just the ability to change the background will bring a breath of fresh air to the boring current iPhone OS
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 07, 2010, 08:10:53 pm
Ohhh I can't wait, roll on June 24th!!
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:15:01 pm
I'm locked into a contract with O2 until feb 11 so wont be getting the new iPhone anytime soon :sad:
However... I am massively excited about getting OS4 on my 3GS :party: just the ability to change the background will bring a breath of fresh air to the boring current iPhone OS

Depending on your contract you will be able to upgrade anything up to 6 months early i would imagine as that is what O2 did when the 3GS was released.

Basically it was.

£35 P/M contract - Upgrade 1 Month early and new contract for 24 Months
£45 P/M contract - Upgrade 3 Months early and new contract for 18 Months
£75 P/M contract - Upgrade 6 Months early and new contract for 18 Months

So i would expect something similar this time round.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 07, 2010, 08:21:30 pm
best thing is 02 should not be the only service provider now
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: SteveP on June 07, 2010, 08:22:38 pm
^^^ Yep that's what I am hoping  :happy2:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:23:03 pm
Well as it's available on O2, Vodafone, Orange & Tesco i would Imagine the iPhone 4 will be available on all from launch. At least the Major 3 if not Tesco.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 07, 2010, 08:24:11 pm
so it should keep cost down as such
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 07, 2010, 08:25:06 pm
just the ability to change the background will bring a breath of fresh air to the boring current iPhone OS

A jailbroken 3g / 3gs has an infinite number of themes / backgrounds etc
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:25:32 pm
I think it will just be a case of swap the $ for £ when it comes to UK pricing

Will soon find out next Wednesday when Pre-Orders start.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2010, 08:26:14 pm
http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/specs.html
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 07, 2010, 08:26:27 pm
i wont sleep  :signLOL:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2010, 08:28:56 pm
hmm, so can i just swop my number over ?quote author=vRS Carl link=topic=15532.msg227016#msg227016 date=1275937714]
Gets released in UK on 24th June  :party: :party: :party:

iOS4 released on 21st June :party: :party: :party:

relly, now where do i pre order lol

Pre-Orders start on 15th June.

Thing is your going to have to get a New Contract as they take Micro-Sims so not as if you can buy a handset and put in your old card.

They are priced in the US at

16GB - $199
32GB - $299

With a contract so no doubt i would expect around the same in the UK but swap the $ for a £ symbol.
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Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:29:11 pm
just the ability to change the background will bring a breath of fresh air to the boring current iPhone OS

A jailbroken 3g / 3gs has an infinite number of themes / backgrounds etc

Yeah but now users won't have to Jailbreak them to get this feature and others.

I have Jailbroken 2 out of the 3 iPhones i have had (16gb 3G & 16gb 3GS) when i got the 32GB 3GS i didn't bother as i found JB to be extremely resource & power hungry.

I also found a lot of the cracked apps to be buggy. In the end i was only doing it to Unlock it and just because i could. However O2 now provide free unlocks for Contract customers so i have no reason to JB.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Alexander on June 07, 2010, 08:29:52 pm
just the ability to change the background will bring a breath of fresh air to the boring current iPhone OS

A jailbroken 3g / 3gs has an infinite number of themes / backgrounds etc

Not quite brave enough to jailbreak  :ashamed:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:30:57 pm
hmm, so can i just swop my number over ?quote author=vRS Carl link=topic=15532.msg227016#msg227016 date=1275937714]
Gets released in UK on 24th June  :party: :party: :party:

iOS4 released on 21st June :party: :party: :party:

relly, now where do i pre order lol

Pre-Orders start on 15th June.

Thing is your going to have to get a New Contract as they take Micro-Sims so not as if you can buy a handset and put in your old card.

They are priced in the US at

16GB - $199
32GB - $299

With a contract so no doubt i would expect around the same in the UK but swap the $ for a £ symbol.
[/quote]

You can keep your No. on any other type of contract so i don't see any reason why this shouldn't be the same. Its not as if you need a PAC if you are staying with the same Network.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 07, 2010, 08:31:56 pm
just the ability to change the background will bring a breath of fresh air to the boring current iPhone OS

A jailbroken 3g / 3gs has an infinite number of themes / backgrounds etc

Not quite brave enough to jailbreak  :ashamed:

Fair do's.  I hope im able to get something sensible for the iPhone 4 when I go to Germany.  Pay as you go is the best option for me at the moment.  Even with the likes of vodaphone passport etc.  So Ill have an antagonising wait for the iPhone 4  :sad1:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 08:32:52 pm
I'm hoping to buy this phone...

I'd like to keep my existing number, how do i go about doing this ?  - I'm on T Mobile atm...
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:37:07 pm
You Buy a contract from O2 (or whoever you are going with) you get a new number

You request a PAC Code from T-Mobile. This is usually sent by Text

You have 2 choices you can do this about 2 weeks before you get the phone and have the Code to take to whichever network you go to and the number is changed within a couple of days.

Or you can Buy a new contract from O2,Voda etc and then there is an option online to enter the PAC Code ( or ring customer services ) and then the number swaps over within a couple of weeks.

I did the Second when my wife went from Voda to O2 and the whole process took a week (3 days to get PAC and 4 Days for O2 to change the number over)

You may get fobbed off by T-Mob saying they dont have to give it you. It is a legal requirement that if you ask for it they have to release it to you so dont take no for an Answer :happy2:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 08:39:37 pm
^^^^^^^^

Thanks for this !!!!
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 07, 2010, 08:40:03 pm
video online  :drool:
http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/features.html
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 07, 2010, 08:49:23 pm
with hd video and 5mp camera the 32 gb is a no brainer this time i think  :drool:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2010, 08:50:54 pm
I wonder if they do a sim free one ?, i am still on my cheap £20 contract (rolling month) and dont really want to swap to a 18 month one
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 07, 2010, 08:52:39 pm
I wonder if they do a sim free one ?, i am still on my cheap £20 contract (rolling month) and dont really want to swap to a 18 month one

yeah same as me but i dont care i just want it  :laugh:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: GTIjames on June 07, 2010, 08:54:59 pm
I wonder if they do a sim free one ?, i am still on my cheap £20 contract (rolling month) and dont really want to swap to a 18 month one

i have been thinking the same, as im on that contract and its great  :happy2:

would be well worth paying the premium if its saving you £15-20 per month over 18/24 months

suppose we will have to wait and see, but i doubt it
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 08:55:56 pm
I wonder if they do a sim free one ?, i am still on my cheap £20 contract (rolling month) and dont really want to swap to a 18 month one

Unless you barstewardsise your current sim it won't fit as the new iPhone 4 uses a micro sim
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 07, 2010, 08:57:54 pm
I wonder if they do a sim free one ?, i am still on my cheap £20 contract (rolling month) and dont really want to swap to a 18 month one

Unless you barstewardsise your current sim it won't fit as the new iPhone 4 uses a micro sim


If you register interest, 02 are showing on their website they will send you a micro sim now?? Maybe that means you can change over from your current sim?
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 09:01:38 pm
Wonder how much they will charge then for them then if you ain't getting a contract. I would say it will be around the £450 mark just for the 16gb and £550 for 32gb.

I can trade my 32gb in for £300 on O2 recycle so this may be an option for me :party:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 09:08:18 pm
Just checked O2 Recycle

32GB 3GS was £306 earlier today

Now it's £282  :fighting: :fighting:

I know it's £24 but that's £24 more I have to pay
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 07, 2010, 09:15:31 pm
Just checked O2 Recycle

32GB 3GS was £306 earlier today

Now it's £282  :fighting: :fighting:

I know it's £24 but that's £24 more I have to pay

Quick get rid! lol
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 09:17:12 pm
Just checked O2 Recycle

32GB 3GS was £306 earlier today

Now it's £282  :fighting: :fighting:

I know it's £24 but that's £24 more I have to pay

Quick get rid! lol


More people will be selling hence O2 wont give you as much.... i'd sell it asap mate
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2010, 09:19:15 pm
I wonder if they do a sim free one ?, i am still on my cheap £20 contract (rolling month) and dont really want to swap to a 18 month one

Unless you barstewardsise your current sim it won't fit as the new iPhone 4 uses a micro sim


I know, the idea is to transfer the contract onto the new sim
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRStu on June 07, 2010, 09:19:48 pm
Sign me up!!

Didn't realise it was so close, expected to be waiting ages.

Dilemma though, do I stay with Voda or do I take the hit and move to the darkside that is 02???
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 09:26:08 pm
Just a bit more help if you could help me ???

I really want to get this IPhone, which is the best network to go on contract wise? O2 ???


I have T Mobile contract, but that ended 2 years ago so can easily end that.... if i go into say, carphone warehouse, will they do it all for me i.e get the pac number from T Mobile etc... ?
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: 182_blue on June 07, 2010, 09:29:03 pm
I wonder if an ipad micro sim is that same sim card that will be needed for the iPhone
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: stealthwolf on June 07, 2010, 09:37:58 pm
O2 coverage is crap. When their 3G works, it's brilliant. My colleagues have vodafone because of better network coverage.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: SteveP on June 07, 2010, 09:39:12 pm
The iPad micro sims are pre-registered pay as you go sims so i doubt they can be transferred to contract.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 09:42:09 pm
Just a bit more help if you could help me ???

I really want to get this IPhone, which is the best network to go on contract wise? O2 ???


I have T Mobile contract, but that ended 2 years ago so can easily end that.... if i go into say, carphone warehouse, will they do it all for me i.e get the pac number from T Mobile etc... ?

Use each networks coverage checker for where you live & work. I have O2 and can't fault it to be honest.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 09:45:11 pm
I've just heard you can order on 15th for delivery on 24th
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 09:48:21 pm
Erm I did put that about 3 pages back in this thread  :P :P
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Rich on June 07, 2010, 09:55:36 pm
Erm I did put that about 3 pages back in this thread  :P :P


Hahah - ohh god, just wait for me to get raped by, Tom, Topcat, JPC   .... now where is the space suit :signLOL:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 07, 2010, 09:59:05 pm
O2 & Vodafone have announced that they will be releasing the iPhone 4 on the 24th June  :party: :party:

Just waiting on Pricing

O2 have said their will be a limited offer of upgrade for those still in contract ( I would expect it to be similar to what I mentioned earlier)

Expect Orange to announce soon.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Ifti on June 07, 2010, 10:07:31 pm
Im still in contract with my 32GB 3Gs until June of 2011!!
I always knew a new iPhone would come along this year - as it does every year - and even though I like the iPhone 4, Im going to miss this one out and be in time for the upgrade in 2011......
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: cmdrfire on June 07, 2010, 11:15:48 pm
but why oh why would you want to put android on it   :confused:  it would be like buying a ferrari then swapping the engine with one from a lawnmower  :stupid:

I don't like iPhone OS (or iOS as it's called) but the hardware really appeals to me.
I can actually do stuff with Android (root access!); I don't like going through iTunes and I don't like Jobs telling me what apps I can/cannot install.

The proper analogy would be: buying a ferrari and swapping the engine with an infinitely customisable W16 quad turbo that I could do anything I wanted to.

I reckon I'll get it unlocked, and just get a microSIM in addition to my O2 SIM... I find their 3G coverage to be pretty decent in the UK and EU tbh. Not great, but I pay £15/month for unlimited internet and that's worth it to me.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: neg on June 07, 2010, 11:23:39 pm
I bought myself and the wife an iPhone 3GS so were not locked in, like most the only issue I have is being locked in.  Currently in my home area Orange have a crap signal due to overgrown tree's etc but cant get access or rights to clear it - but everywhere else is ok.

If I change network I then get the problem of being locked to them for 18 or 24 months, and who am I kidding thinking they are better than one another  :mad:

on the iPhone4 though, looks good.  I really did hold back but now I have one (business use) it does work pretty well.

Shame it doesnt support UMA ... or does it??
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 07, 2010, 11:42:20 pm
but why oh why would you want to put android on it   :confused:  it would be like buying a ferrari then swapping the engine with one from a lawnmower  :stupid:

I don't like iPhone OS (or iOS as it's called) but the hardware really appeals to me.
I can actually do stuff with Android (root access!); I don't like going through iTunes and I don't like Jobs telling me what apps I can/cannot install.

The proper analogy would be: buying a ferrari and swapping the engine with an infinitely customisable W16 quad turbo that I could do anything I wanted to.

I reckon I'll get it unlocked, and just get a microSIM in addition to my O2 SIM... I find their 3G coverage to be pretty decent in the UK and EU tbh. Not great, but I pay £15/month for unlimited internet and that's worth it to me.

£15 a month for 3g data / inrternet in EU ???  :confused:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: cmdrfire on June 07, 2010, 11:44:13 pm

£15 a month for 3g data / inrternet in EU ???  :confused:

£15/month for 3G data/internet unlimited in the UK. Was on a £25/month SIMplicity but after a year they knocked it down to £15/month for some reason.

EU data roaming is (will be) capped at £60/month thanks to new EU legislation.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 08, 2010, 01:04:16 am
Im assuming you do a lot of travel in the EU then.

Would it not be cheaper to have a PAYG Sim for the EU countries you visit rather than paying large Data Roaming Bills?
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Hurdy on June 08, 2010, 01:56:36 am
My current contract runs out on the 10th, so I wonder what I'll be getting :jumping: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 08, 2010, 10:16:03 am
Just Looked on O2 Recycle now.

A 32GB 3GS has dropped AGAIN its now only £265 you get. :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:

In the space of 24hours it dropped from £306 to £282 to £265. :fighting: :fighting:

At this rate by the time they release the iPhone 4 you'll have to pay O2 to take it off you  :fighting:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: cmdrfire on June 08, 2010, 10:37:47 am
Im assuming you do a lot of travel in the EU then.

Would it not be cheaper to have a PAYG Sim for the EU countries you visit rather than paying large Data Roaming Bills?

I'm there semi-frequently for work, usually Italy or Germany for a couple of days at a time. Not frequently or long enough to bother with local SIMs really, plus there's a benefit to retaining the same number while I'm out there.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 08, 2010, 12:32:39 pm
It's about time you can view all your mail accounts in one inbox. Should have been a feature from the off imo.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: neg on June 08, 2010, 12:51:37 pm
It's about time you can view all your mail accounts in one inbox. Should have been a feature from the off imo.
Wouldnt want to though if a mix of personal & business IMO

The option would be nice I suppose though.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Ifti on June 08, 2010, 01:53:28 pm
It's about time you can view all your mail accounts in one inbox. Should have been a feature from the off imo.
Wouldnt want to though if a mix of personal & business IMO

The option would be nice I suppose though.

You can still view mailboxes seperately as well.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: cmdrfire on June 08, 2010, 02:51:16 pm
Cost is gonna be US$700 for the unlocked 32GB. That will probably translate itself into £600-650 or so... which may be a leetle bit highly priced.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 08, 2010, 03:15:53 pm
Hmm i reckon it will be more around the £549 mark of the Current 32GB 3GS as the 3GS is about to have money knocked off
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: theo on June 08, 2010, 06:47:09 pm
I'm glad i didnt upgrade to the 3gS when my contract ran out in January. Bring on the 15th for pre order and 24th for upgrade. Its going to be an expensive month for me what with my trip to VWR too!
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 08, 2010, 06:54:11 pm
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Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Smudgster on June 08, 2010, 11:15:32 pm
WHOOP WHOOP - Will be pre-ordering mine. Had my iphone 3g for 2 years now and have been waiting for this!!!!

Will look good with my ipad too  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 01:31:52 pm
Anybody with a 3GS will have to pay through the nose for the 4. The 3GS has only been out just shy of 12 months so they'll be an early termination fee whatever the pricing as shortest contract term is 18months.

For those who held onto their 3G, its a perfect opportunity to upgrade, but I suppose they've had to endure the sluggish-ness for so long!  :wink:

Whats interesting at the moment is we have 3 carrier's selling the handset which will undoubtedly mean more competition. And more competition = price contest  :pomppomp:  :happy2:

That's why all the UK carrier's are holding back on pricing. Whereas in the US pricing is available because the handset is still exclusive to AT&T - therefore no competition.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 01:40:25 pm
It will depend on your contract if you are a 3GS owner (although my contract is from a 3G phone)

Last time it was 1,3 or 6 months upgrade with no penalty

So to me i will probably be in the 3 month bracket. However it depends on how you play the contract renewal.

If for example you take the contract out over 24months not 18months then you may get away with not having to pay through the nose.

I really cant see why they cant release the prices. They all know them already as they will have worked it all out when actually getting the deal to stock the iPhone 4 in the first place.

If for example O2 can manage to sell the phone for say £180 + Contract for the 16GB one there is probably only going to be around £10 difference between networks.

The savings for us the consumer will be in the Contract Pricing. Currently my opinion is O2 are best due to their fair use policy on unlimited data being 5GB. Vodafones & Orange was 1GB last i looked.

T-Mobile could help with pricing though as they are also going to stock it.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 01:46:07 pm
I can't understand why people choose 24 month contracts. Just too long to have the same phone imho.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: GTIjames on June 09, 2010, 02:05:26 pm
I can't understand why people choose 24 month contracts. Just too long to have the same phone imho.

18 months is just about all i can put up with, and I normally try and damage it around the 11 month mark so I get a replacement iphone under warranty for the next 8 months of the agreement.

i enquired in a phone shop a few weeks ago after i lost my old 3g iphone what was available on 12 month contracts, they showed me three handsets all of which were utter poop...the operators want to tie you in long time now  :sad1: 



Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 09, 2010, 02:27:14 pm
Anybody with a 3GS will have to pay through the nose for the 4. The 3GS has only been out just shy of 12 months so they'll be an early termination fee whatever the pricing as shortest contract term is 18months.


I'm rather lucky, my 3g got swapped for a 3gs when it went faulty 10 months ago :laugh:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: cmdrfire on June 09, 2010, 02:52:01 pm
I can't understand why people choose 24 month contracts. Just too long to have the same phone imho.

Just get a SIM-free phone...
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: cuprak1 on June 09, 2010, 03:10:33 pm
I can't understand why people choose 24 month contracts. Just too long to have the same phone imho.

was cheaper at the time :(

i had the 2g iphone and then got the 3g on a free upgrade... then paid off contract early when the 3gs comes out and will probs have to do the same for the 4 in a few weeks.. i can get £300+ for my jailbroken 3gs on eBay so its not an issue
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 03:24:38 pm
For info, O2 will unlock your iPhone if your a pay monthly customer. You can do this online HERE (https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Handset%20Unlocking%20Form) but it takes a few weeks to be enabled.

Mine will be for sale on eBay or on the forum, but in truth it really depends on the pricing as I've still got 6 months.

Is anyone aware of whether O2 include insurance and any other additional charges you pay to their "how much you pay per month"?
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: GTIjames on June 09, 2010, 03:25:13 pm
I can't understand why people choose 24 month contracts. Just too long to have the same phone imho.

was cheaper at the time :(

i had the 2g iphone and then got the 3g on a free upgrade... then paid off contract early when the 3gs comes out and will probs have to do the same for the 4 in a few weeks.. i can get £300+ for my jailbroken 3gs on eBay so its not an issue

i would get it on the bay quick as the prices are tumbling fast! 3gs is old news now mate
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 03:29:52 pm
I can't understand why people choose 24 month contracts. Just too long to have the same phone imho.

Just get a SIM-free phone...

I was told that you cannot insure PAYG handsets when used with Pay Monthly Sim's because call charges are not covered in the PAYG insurance policy.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Alexander on June 09, 2010, 03:31:38 pm
Just worked out it would cost me £360 to buy out my £45 a month contract! Think I'll wait a bit!
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 03:39:12 pm
i would get it on the bay quick as the prices are tumbling fast! 3gs is old news now mate

To be fair, the 3GS is still a decent handset. It will support iOS 4.

Unless O2 come out with some fantastic upgrade packages, I'll be quite happy to stick with my 3GS until next June. Lets face it, O2 have supposedly been doing very well out of the iPhone 3G/3GS and as such has a large share of the iPhone market. Its in their best interest to try and retain this market share with the iPhone 4.

I can see 3G handsets falling through the floor due to them being discontinued and not supporting many of the iOS 4 features. I notice they are listed as out of stock on the Apple store.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 03:45:25 pm
Just worked out it would cost me £360 to buy out my £45 a month contract! Think I'll wait a bit!

Surely you could lower your tariff?

The best scenario for all of us stuck with a 3GS is for O2 to offer a flat rate termination fee of something along the same lines as AT&T offer of £100 plus £10 per month of contract still remaining.

EDIT: Just seen this on the O2 iPhone forum O2 to charge £20 per month to upgrade to iPhone 4 (http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33601/o2-pound20-upgrade-iphone-4)
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: GTIjames on June 09, 2010, 03:48:21 pm
never questioned it been a decent handset, its the dog dangles  :happy2:

but as with most gadgets as soon as a newer model comes out the resale value of the older device plummets

just look at what carl posted about 02 recycle scheme, the 3gs was valued almost £50 less the day after the iphone 4 was announced  
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 09, 2010, 03:50:37 pm
just think how much u will get for a 4  on ebay on the day they come out  :laugh: lots i would think
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 04:03:45 pm
For info, O2 will unlock your iPhone if your a pay monthly customer. You can do this online HERE (https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Handset%20Unlocking%20Form) but it takes a few weeks to be enabled.

Mine took 4 days through O2:confused: :confused:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 09, 2010, 04:04:36 pm
I'm very glad I made the educated decision to resist the temptation to upgrade to a 3GS and run my 3G on a rolling contract (like a few here I believe). Should be really interesting how much leverage that will get me with O2 considering I could just cancel with a months notice and go Orange.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 04:07:04 pm
For info, O2 will unlock your iPhone if your a pay monthly customer. You can do this online HERE (https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Handset%20Unlocking%20Form) but it takes a few weeks to be enabled.

Mine took 4 days through O2:confused: :confused:

Mine 2 weeks. Possibly had a back log.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 04:30:31 pm
...... go Orange.
:sick: :sick:

I'd rather slash my bell end with a rusty razor than go with Orange
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 09, 2010, 04:36:29 pm
...... go Orange.
:sick: :sick:

I'd rather slash my bell end with a rusty razor than go with Orange


I never had a bad experience with Orange during the many years I was with them. I only went to O2 because of the iPhone. I guess it's horses for courses where mobile phone companies are concerned.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 09, 2010, 05:03:24 pm
...... go Orange.
:sick: :sick:

I'd rather slash my bell end with a rusty razor than go with Orange


I'll second that, all ever got on orange was text messages saying I'd missed calls.  Why? because i never had a signal anywhere
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: VC on June 09, 2010, 05:07:49 pm


EDIT: Just seen this on the O2 iPhone forum O2 to charge £20 per month to upgrade to iPhone 4 (http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33601/o2-pound20-upgrade-iphone-4)

hmmm... maybe i can justify ponying up the dough if this is true  :smiley:

i want the 4  :party:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 05:22:08 pm
You mean this

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33601/o2-pound20-upgrade-iphone-4

It's an "Anonymous tip off" or in other words - lets get some hits on out website  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: VC on June 09, 2010, 05:37:39 pm
its now been confirmed:

It seems that Pocket-lint's anonymous tip was bang on the money, O2's upgrade microsite has confirmed that, for a limited time at least, it will cost existing customers (not just iPhone users) £20 per month remaining on their contract to buy themselves out. They can then take out a new contract with the provider for the new iPhone 4.

An O2 spokeperson told Pocket-lint: "Yes, you were right. We want to make it as easy as possible for people to be able to upgrade to iPhone 4."

It has also been suggested, by a reader no less, that you can also use O2 Recycle to sell your existing handset for anywhere up to £253 (for the 32GB iPhone 3GS). Essentially, that means, should you have 6 months left on your contract, and the iPhone 4 costs £250 new (as expected), you would only need to pay around £117- on top of a basic price plan - for a full upgrade
.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33614/o2-confirms-iphone-4-upgrades

the O2 microsite has the info:

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/earlyupgradeoffer.html

Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Alexander on June 09, 2010, 06:02:19 pm
any hints on expected pay as you go handsets yet? just trying to work out the cheapest way of doing it!
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 06:03:54 pm
any hints on expected pay as you go handsets yet? just trying to work out the cheapest way of doing it!

Circa £450 for 16gb
Circa £550 for 32gb

its now been confirmed:

It seems that Pocket-lint's anonymous tip was bang on the money, O2's upgrade microsite has confirmed that, for a limited time at least, it will cost existing customers (not just iPhone users) £20 per month remaining on their contract to buy themselves out. They can then take out a new contract with the provider for the new iPhone 4.

An O2 spokeperson told Pocket-lint: "Yes, you were right. We want to make it as easy as possible for people to be able to upgrade to iPhone 4."

It has also been suggested, by a reader no less, that you can also use O2 Recycle to sell your existing handset for anywhere up to £253 (for the 32GB iPhone 3GS). Essentially, that means, should you have 6 months left on your contract, and the iPhone 4 costs £250 new (as expected), you would only need to pay around £117- on top of a basic price plan - for a full upgrade
.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33614/o2-confirms-iphone-4-upgrades

the O2 microsite has the info:

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/earlyupgradeoffer.html



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Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 09, 2010, 06:15:30 pm
Anyone heard when the pay and go versions will go on sale?
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 06:18:59 pm
Good find VC!

But careful everyone, it says the Early Upgrade fee is only available up until the 24th July and cannot be used in conjuction with the O2 Priority List (whatever that is).

EDIT: I notice there is no mention of tarriff's yet, so who knows how much they will ask for.

2ND EDIT: Be very careful of the O2 Recycle, they seem to be advertising this everywhere and yet its actually run by a different company to O2 called Redeem plc.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 06:28:45 pm
If your interested in the Early upgrade I'd leave it until the week before 24th July to upgrade. That way you use as much of your current contract and save another £20 or more depending on your contract dates.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 06:34:17 pm
Yeah that O2 recycle has dropped by nearly £60 in the past 48 hours  :fighting: :fighting:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 09, 2010, 06:36:56 pm

EDIT: I notice there is no mention of tarriff's yet, so who knows how much they will ask for.


I'd imagine that tariffs wont change, especially with competition from orange and vodafone.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: winrya on June 09, 2010, 06:38:38 pm
A nice hands on preview for anyone who interested, photo samples look superb and the screen sounds incredible

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/iphone-4-guide-preview-pricing-availability-and-more/
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 06:45:05 pm
I personally will be using mazuma to trade my 3GS in.

They have been at £245 for ages ( at least a couple of months )

Used them about 4 or 5 times now all always done within about 3 days.


EDIT: I notice there is no mention of tarriff's yet, so who knows how much they will ask for.


I'd imagine that tariffs wont change, especially with competition from orange and vodafone.

Also T-Mobile now :happy2:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Alexander on June 09, 2010, 06:59:03 pm
Assuming I can get a 16gig for £450 on PAYG I'll do that and sell my 3gs to partly subsidise the £450. I'm not up for starting another 18 month contract as the iphone 4 is likely to be upgraded before that would be up.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRStu on June 09, 2010, 07:02:26 pm
I think I might be better off with a PAYG as my current tarriff is £15 pm.

So assuming I'd need a £45 or more tarriff (for at least 18 months) to get the iPhone free than that's an increase of at least £30 per month and £540 over the 18 or £720 over the 24.  Always leaving me free to give them the bird at any time I wish.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 09, 2010, 07:07:50 pm
I think I might be better off with a PAYG as my current tarriff is £15 pm.

So assuming I'd need a £45 or more tarriff (for at least 18 months) to get the iPhone free than that's an increase of at least £30 per month and £540 over the 18 or £720 over the 24.  Always leaving me free to give them the bird at any time I wish.

As mentioned earlier, I was told that O2 will not insure PAYG handsets when used with Pay Monthly Sim's because call charges are not covered in the PAYG insurance policy.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 07:09:35 pm
The phone won't be free at launch on any contract, well not with O2 anyhow.  

They usually make the 16gb free on a 24month contract after it's been out about 6 months.

This is what the did with the 3G and the 3GS
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Alexander on June 09, 2010, 07:14:36 pm
I think I might be better off with a PAYG as my current tarriff is £15 pm.

So assuming I'd need a £45 or more tarriff (for at least 18 months) to get the iPhone free than that's an increase of at least £30 per month and £540 over the 18 or £720 over the 24.  Always leaving me free to give them the bird at any time I wish.

As mentioned earlier, I was told that O2 will not insure PAYG handsets when used with Pay Monthly Sim's because call charges are not covered in the PAYG insurance policy.

According to the 02 website if you upgrade by buying a pay as you go iphone they will transfer the insurance, not that I have insurance with them anyway!
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRStu on June 09, 2010, 09:27:51 pm
I think I might be better off with a PAYG as my current tarriff is £15 pm.

So assuming I'd need a £45 or more tarriff (for at least 18 months) to get the iPhone free than that's an increase of at least £30 per month and £540 over the 18 or £720 over the 24.  Always leaving me free to give them the bird at any time I wish.

As mentioned earlier, I was told that O2 will not insure PAYG handsets when used with Pay Monthly Sim's because call charges are not covered in the PAYG insurance policy.

Not in the slightest bit bothered to be honest mate.  Plenty of places to get phone insurance if you want it, I have mine with my house insurance.  O2 don't have the monopoly on insurance and my line is with Vodafone.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 09, 2010, 09:35:21 pm
Same here I have my phone insured through my bank. Damn site cheaper than the £15 a month O2 wanted ( just wish I had done it before I dropped the 3G and broke it  :sad1:)

Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: ashley on June 09, 2010, 11:48:12 pm
loving the 4, cant justify it at the mo having spent £££ on the ed30  :wink:

If anyone had a earlier iphone going spare i will at least match what o2 etc offer.

Ideally with a little warranty and unlocked or vodafone but open to suggestions  :happy2:  
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 10, 2010, 01:51:04 pm
I reckon I'm going to bail on my iPhone now while it's still worth something.

Anyone know if an O2 iPhone SIM will work in any phone?
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: prepree on June 10, 2010, 02:11:28 pm
Tariffs are up

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html#paymonth
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 10, 2010, 02:13:05 pm
Hmm, no unlimited data I see :confused:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: prepree on June 10, 2010, 02:19:57 pm
With the data allowances are they cellular data amounts, i.e. using 3g to view web, facebook & emails etc.
Using wifi to stream iplayer wouldn’t be included surely?
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 10, 2010, 02:24:43 pm
No, WiFi has always been unlimited, it's just 3G usage.

Looking at my total cellular data usage it is only 933Mb, and that's in two years. So 500 Mb is going to be more than adequate.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 10, 2010, 02:25:39 pm
With the data allowances are they cellular data amounts, i.e. using 3g to view web, facebook & emails etc.
Using wifi to stream iplayer wouldn’t be included surely?

Using wifi wont count towards your usage.  I used a 500mb data bolt on with my 3G and always managed.  When using tvcatchup or iplayer i ussually had wifi access...
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: prepree on June 10, 2010, 02:28:39 pm
No, WiFi has always been unlimited, it's just 3G usage.

Looking at my total cellular data usage it is only 933Mb, and that's in two years. So 500 Mb is going to be more than adequate.
With the data allowances are they cellular data amounts, i.e. using 3g to view web, facebook & emails etc.
Using wifi to stream iplayer wouldn’t be included surely?

Using wifi wont count towards your usage.  I used a 500mb data bolt on with my 3G and always managed.  When using tvcatchup or iplayer i ussually had wifi access...

Cheers Guys,

I just checked mine an total usuage was just under 890mb so il never use 500 a month!
Another £35 a month, 18month contract for me then! Should work out nice for iphone 5!! :laugh:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 10, 2010, 02:36:49 pm
I just sold my 3G on Mazuma for £183. I reckon they're really going to plummet in value.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 10, 2010, 02:41:31 pm
This is exactly the same as AT&T. They have just announced restricted usage plans on 3G data as well.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: S2 Ant on June 10, 2010, 02:46:16 pm
Wonder what the Voda tarrifs will offer then as they seem to list 1024mb for their standard data package.
I've been with O-Poo for 9yrs now and want the Desire and they've been crap for me so im gonna try out Voda.

Fingers crossed they're not as poo as O-Poo have been lol
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: S2 Ant on June 10, 2010, 02:47:46 pm
I was gonna use this place to trade my old phones in. They seem to offer a good price plus if you can use the vouchers then you can get even more...

http://www.mobilephonexchange.co.uk

32GB 3GS is currently £287 with vouchers for Debenhams - easily spent in there IMO
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 10, 2010, 02:59:27 pm
500MB is a little harsh to say its come from being unlimited.

750MB or 1GB would be a fairer.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 10, 2010, 03:02:09 pm

Cant see anything on o2.de for when I get back to Germany  :sad1:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 10, 2010, 03:02:49 pm
I fail to see how anyone can be using anywhere near 500 Mb a month, unless they've hacked it and are using it to tether...
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: S2 Ant on June 10, 2010, 03:07:42 pm
I fail to see how anyone can be using anywhere near 500 Mb a month, unless they've hacked it and are using it to tether...

In all fairness, thats only 15mb a day or there abouts and as most "SmartPhones" now load the full pages not mobile friendly pages it wont take much at all to hit that. A few flashy banners and pictures and you'll be well on your way add in to that catching up with a friends Facebook album etc maybe a few YouTube vids and mailing the links to your mates and you'll go past it easily
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 10, 2010, 03:11:53 pm
Hmmm it depends aswell if you have ever reset your network settings as that resets your data usage and i can't see a lifetime option anywhere. Only for calls and even that resets.

I reset mine as was having some probs a while ago and ive only used 178mb in 2 months so hopefully i will be ok with 500mb

Dilema now is do i pay £180 to get out of my contract (ends apr 11) sell my 32gb 3GS for £250 therefore giving me £70 towards the cost of the new phone.

OR

Do i wait till my contract ends go onto simplicity and wait for iPhone 5

OR

Wifes Contract on hers ends June next year. So get iPhone 4 now then when 5 Comes out get it on her contract and give her the 4

I think i know which option i'll use  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 10, 2010, 03:31:31 pm
I fail to see how anyone can be using anywhere near 500 Mb a month, unless they've hacked it and are using it to tether...

In all fairness, thats only 15mb a day or there abouts and as most "SmartPhones" now load the full pages not mobile friendly pages it wont take much at all to hit that. A few flashy banners and pictures and you'll be well on your way add in to that catching up with a friends Facebook album etc maybe a few YouTube vids and mailing the links to your mates and you'll go past it easily

I get what you're saying but mine has never been reset and the total usage is 933 Mb, in two years. I use the thing all the time.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Cooper on June 10, 2010, 04:12:55 pm
Yeah but mines on 5.1Gb and I've had this iphone 10-11 months so I reckon I'll be pretty close to 500MB a month
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: S2 Ant on June 10, 2010, 04:17:05 pm
The vodafone tarrifs now seem to be offering 1024mb compared to the 500mb offered by O2 and they are listing the iPhone as coming to them.
Guess it will depend on your contract status more than anything tho
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 10, 2010, 04:43:06 pm
It's now also going to be available on 3 aswell.  :surprised:

So now that all 5 major UK networks have it let the price war commence  :party: :party: :party: :party:

Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Hurdy on June 10, 2010, 05:25:25 pm
The vodafone tarrifs now seem to be offering 1024mb compared to the 500mb offered by O2 and they are listing the iPhone as coming to them.
Guess it will depend on your contract status more than anything tho

My contract is up today with Vodafone, so roll on the 24th :jumpmove: :pomppomp:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: neg on June 10, 2010, 07:19:41 pm
Unlimited data is over rated, I got myself an iPhone to use on Orange, called them to get the data upped and was told the 750MB bundle was £10 or so but I had to sign up for 18months minimum (no chance!), the 500MB bundle was £4.26, no tie in.

I use my iPhone all the time for work, there is rarely a day when it stays above 10% battery - I would stuggle to get anywhere near the 500MB limit.

It did cost me £50 recently for data when in Portugal mind you  :surprised:  only a few MB too.

Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: GTIjames on June 10, 2010, 07:23:32 pm
^^^^ x2 on not using it abroad, especially if your planning on going to the world cup, it was £340 after 2 weeks in south africa  :rolleye:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRStu on June 10, 2010, 09:23:52 pm
Just read this -

O2 Ends Unlimited Mobile Data Plans For Smartphones


Quote
10 June, 2010, by James Cullimore
O2 is set to stop offering unlimited data on its smartphone tariffs.

From 24 June, any smartphone bought on an O2 contract will be subject to a 'fair usage' data cap.

Any customers signing up for contracts worth £35 per month and under after this date will be given a monthly data allowance of 500MB. Those on £40-£45 per month contracts will get 750MB. Users on the top-end contracts worth £60 per month can download up to 1GB data for free.

Users will be charged £5 for every additional 500MB they use over the data limit.

Existing O2 customers will still be able to access unlimited data on their smartphone - as long as they stay on the same plan.

O2 has stated that the move has been made in response to customer requests for clearer pricing from the company.


http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/6/10/o2-ends-unlimited-mobile-data-plans-smartphones/
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 10, 2010, 09:47:49 pm
Cheers DB  :happy2:

Still think i'm gonna stay O2 as i don't think i will get anywhere near 750mb (have the £45 contract and will probably keep the same now)


Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRStu on June 10, 2010, 10:16:01 pm
There was a little note that I couldn't paste in which says they'll be doing a promo til later this year - giving unlimited data  :stupid:
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: vRS Carl on June 10, 2010, 10:18:02 pm
Yeah I saw that on the O2 tariffs bit but the promo only lasts till October then you revert to the cap for your plan.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: pazz on June 10, 2010, 10:49:12 pm
Quote
10 June, 2010, by James Cullimore
Users will be charged £5 for every additional 500MB they use over the data limit.

That's actually quite reasonable. I wouldn't mind forking out another £5 for that one particular month I tether too much via jailbreak!

But I presume O2 will announce new tethering packages to suit the new tariff's.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Lean on June 10, 2010, 11:05:37 pm
Excuse my language but I think it's utter *ollocks that in this day and age all the mobile companies don't give UNLIMITED data packages on all their phones... it's a joke.

Just because the costs of the calls come down and more people talk less and communicate via facebook/messages and email more they (most) decide to take us all to the cleaners.. blurgh
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: andrewparker on June 11, 2010, 11:45:11 am
Perhaps it is because they know so many people jailbreak their phones and use tethering against the conditions of their contract.
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 11, 2010, 07:26:12 pm
Perhaps it is because they know so many people jailbreak their phones and use tethering against the conditions of their contract.

Shhhhh  :ashamed: lol
Title: Re: iPhone 4
Post by: SteveP on June 11, 2010, 07:52:22 pm
My order is in via the Vodafone store we have at work  :party: