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Title: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2010, 04:45:59 pm
as above RR day at AMD essex tomorrow from 10am.  a load of biskoda guys going with a mix of skodas, BMWs, golfs, and seats going.  would be good to see some other guys from this forum go :happy2:

oh and its £35 for the RR and printout :happy2:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 12, 2010, 04:48:23 pm

F*cking tremendous.  I got a dyno run at £70 on the way oop Norrf on Tuesday  :fighting:

Asked for SCN discount, there isnt one for Dyno runs but got 'Forces' discount lol, still nearly twice that price though , typical
 :sad:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2010, 04:50:06 pm
Remember Sy....we want pics and results of runs :happy2:

Mike, where's the dyno run being done?  I'm off Tuesday. Could also find you somewhere cheaper unless you want the same dyno. :smiley:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2010, 04:54:19 pm
my attendance is dependant on external influences. 

im on the quang tonight, and am notoriously bad the next day. told the missus she could goto ikea lol
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 12, 2010, 04:56:19 pm
Remember Sy....we want pics and results of runs :happy2:

Mike, where's the dyno run being done?  I'm off Tuesday. Could also find you somewhere cheaper unless you want the same dyno. :smiley:

I had a dyno run at AMD Essex on the way up North when I dropped my car with SteveJnr when I saw you last week.
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
Remember Sy....we want pics and results of runs :happy2:

Mike, where's the dyno run being done?  I'm off Tuesday. Could also find you somewhere cheaper unless you want the same dyno. :smiley:

I had a dyno run at AMD Essex on the way up North when I dropped my car with SteveJnr when I saw you last week.

Ahhh, I'm with you now. I thought that you were having another one done on this coming Tuesday :ashamed:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 12, 2010, 05:36:11 pm
Remember Sy....we want pics and results of runs :happy2:

Mike, where's the dyno run being done?  I'm off Tuesday. Could also find you somewhere cheaper unless you want the same dyno. :smiley:

I had a dyno run at AMD Essex on the way up North when I dropped my car with SteveJnr when I saw you last week.

Ahhh, I'm with you now. I thought that you were having another one done on this coming Tuesday :ashamed:

Nah on operation Secret savings account now for the next round of mods...  :innocent:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2010, 05:38:56 pm
Remember Sy....we want pics and results of runs :happy2:

Mike, where's the dyno run being done?  I'm off Tuesday. Could also find you somewhere cheaper unless you want the same dyno. :smiley:

I had a dyno run at AMD Essex on the way up North when I dropped my car with SteveJnr when I saw you last week.

Ahhh, I'm with you now. I thought that you were having another one done on this coming Tuesday :ashamed:
Nah on operation Secret savings account now for the next round of mods...  :innocent:

 :happy2:

You'll love it Mike :drool:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2010, 05:41:34 pm
im the same mike, i have a secret slush fund for  when i go away.  its always more than my mod funds lol.  Pads on the piss.  theres nothing worse :grin:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Hedge on June 12, 2010, 06:01:47 pm
I shall be there tomorrow but I guess thats not much of an incentive.  :sad1:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Robert74 on June 12, 2010, 10:26:29 pm
Can anyone go the this RR day? What time does it finish?
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Hedge on June 12, 2010, 10:36:32 pm
Not sure on the finish time but it kicks off at 9 and Shaun has said there is a BBQ.  :party:

If you want to come say and I can add you to the list on Briskoda.  :smiley:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Robert74 on June 12, 2010, 10:39:37 pm
I have to check if I can make it. If You put me on the list but cannot make it is it a problem?
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Hedge on June 12, 2010, 10:40:53 pm
I have to check if I can make it. If You put me on the list but cannot make it is it a problem?

Not really.........
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Robert74 on June 12, 2010, 10:44:32 pm
OK put me down and I will try and get there. Thanks Hedge.
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Hedge on June 12, 2010, 10:58:32 pm
Done.  :happy2:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2010, 11:10:50 am
im just leaving now.  wouldnt have been safe if i left any earlier lol
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 13, 2010, 11:14:22 am
im just leaving now.  wouldnt have been safe if i left any earlier lol

Text me your results mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: RR day at AMDessex tomorrow Sunday 13 June
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2010, 04:37:10 pm
back from AMD now. It seems like AMD have in fact had their RR calibrated to give accurate figures.

Its confirmed mine does require an intercooler as the second run suffered heat soak again, so that is my next mod.  happy with the output though, torque came in nice and early, with a nice plateau of power from 5k onwards.  
shrak performance stage 1 rempa, stock everything else

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fxx202%2Fsimonskerton%2Fstage1sharkperformace13-06-10004.jpg&hash=737321bcbe95ee7b178b37cf2f713640f84572dd)

from memory DomT made 320Hp 320Ibft, hedge made 248hp(i think), roberts 251hp 275Ibft,  and the 5.7litre V8 corvette made................................................................









260Hp :grin:  but to be fair it sounded biblical
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: bacillus on June 13, 2010, 04:57:21 pm
Are those whp?
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2010, 04:58:48 pm
Flywheel
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 13, 2010, 04:59:23 pm
Relief to hear the opinion that they are now 'more accurate'  
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 13, 2010, 05:26:55 pm
Expected DOm's to get more than 320 TBH..  :confused:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2010, 05:35:44 pm
he said it had just been calibrated recently, we think it was done as a result of him tuning his BTCC golf on his rollers.  they would have to make sure that it doesnt make more than the maximum allowed 280Hp output.

roberts made 250Hp this time as a pose to 260hp last time so it looks like they have moved it towards a more accurate figure.  which can only be good.
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Saint Steve on June 13, 2010, 06:27:06 pm
Expected DOm's to get more than 320 TBH..  :confused:

Ran simular figures at JKM Ben aswell afaik
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 13, 2010, 06:30:24 pm

Not as pronounced as mine but the power curve at 3.5k - 4k backs off then starts climbing again...
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 13, 2010, 06:40:19 pm
325 bhp And 338 lbsft torque...
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2010, 06:42:53 pm
you posting your graph up dom :happy2:  was good to meet you today.

your midrange was pretty awesome.  you were running more power than mine at 3.5k :grin:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Poppa Dom on June 13, 2010, 06:48:39 pm
Yeah, nice to meet you to. Will see if I can get it scanned in this evening. If not be much later in the week as I am away for the next three days. Oh, that corvette sounded amazing, cannot believe it made what it did.
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2010, 06:51:57 pm
what made that so funny is us predicting 500hp for it. :grin:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Robert74 on June 13, 2010, 10:19:01 pm
It was good to meet up with you guys today. My car actually made 257bhp today, last time it made 260. Thanks dom for the ride in your car to hear exhaust noise levels.
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hedge on June 13, 2010, 10:25:08 pm
Smine.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FGolf%2FR32%2FR32AmD.jpg&hash=b3a7f7108694e071cbf6da98a969d14cb26e3fb3)

Good day :happy2:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 13, 2010, 10:30:39 pm
It was good to meet up with you guys today. My car actually made 257bhp today, last time it made 260. Thanks dom for the ride in your car to hear exhaust noise levels.

sorry mate, you posting the plot up?
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 14, 2010, 10:06:58 am
Smine.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FGolf%2FR32%2FR32AmD.jpg&hash=b3a7f7108694e071cbf6da98a969d14cb26e3fb3)

Good day :happy2:

Loving the torque curve (or should I say flatline :signLOL:) Hedge..
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hedge on June 14, 2010, 10:47:02 am
Loving the torque curve (or should I say flatline :signLOL:) Hedge..

 :signLOL:

Hey its not a lot but its always there.  :wink:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hurdy on June 14, 2010, 01:55:12 pm
How come they cut the engine off before 6krpm when the power was still rising Hedgemeister?
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hedge on June 14, 2010, 02:11:35 pm
How come they cut the engine off before 6krpm when the power was still rising Hedgemeister?

DSG change up @6.2k rpm or thereabouts.  :smiley:

It would probably produce more power if it could get to 7k.
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Saint Steve on June 14, 2010, 02:12:37 pm
Dsg Remap Ian??  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hurdy on June 14, 2010, 02:52:43 pm
Dsg Remap Ian??  :evilgrin:

For sure :happy2:

247bhp is spot on the money too for an R32 :smiley:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hedge on June 14, 2010, 03:01:22 pm
Dsg Remap Ian??  :evilgrin:

For sure :happy2:

247bhp is spot on the money too for an R32 :smiley:

In fairness it has been on Surrey Rolling Road and made 256bhp but yesterday was pretty warm and no cold air to feed it.  :sad1:

It has EVOMS and cat back milly to help. Dartford tunnel was epic.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 14, 2010, 03:42:11 pm
youe sounded good to be fair, but its all about that corvette, that was insane, all 260Hp of it :grin:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 14, 2010, 04:01:25 pm
youe sounded good to be fair, but its all about that corvette, that was insane, all 260Hp of it :grin:

Got to love the Yank motors sometimes.. I went up against this SC'd Mustang at Pod last year and the bloke told me it was over 500bhp. I remember bogging it a bit off the line and when he got ahead I thought game over as I aint going to get near it once the speeds got higher.. I passed him just before the line.. (with one of my crapper runs too)  :signLOL:



Big old heavy units..  :P
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Saint Steve on June 14, 2010, 04:33:27 pm
Indeed, this GTi sounds like it has a V8 in it :laugh:

&NR=1
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 14, 2010, 04:42:06 pm
Indeed, this GTi sounds like it has a V8 in it :laugh:

&NR=1

Literally just watched that..  :signLOL:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hurdy on June 14, 2010, 04:54:13 pm
Indeed, this GTi sounds like it has a V8 in it :laugh:

&NR=1

Literally just watched that..  :signLOL:

That's probably because the right lane has a V8 engined car in it!! :grin:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo123%2FDredtiger%2Ftriplefail.jpg&hash=750383fa5629ca4c2c2b62db3d5559e733d4bac6)
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 14, 2010, 04:57:13 pm
Indeed, this GTi sounds like it has a V8 in it :laugh:

&NR=1

Literally just watched that..  :signLOL:

That's probably because the right lane has a V8 engined car in it!! :grin:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo123%2FDredtiger%2Ftriplefail.jpg&hash=750383fa5629ca4c2c2b62db3d5559e733d4bac6)

Oh come on John, we're not that daft..  :signLOL:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 14, 2010, 06:02:24 pm
Smine.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FGolf%2FR32%2FR32AmD.jpg&hash=b3a7f7108694e071cbf6da98a969d14cb26e3fb3)

Good day :happy2:

how much do you think your evoms and exhaust make on yours ian.  forgot you had them
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Saint Steve on June 14, 2010, 06:03:33 pm
Indeed, this GTi sounds like it has a V8 in it :laugh:

&NR=1

Literally just watched that..  :signLOL:

That's probably because the right lane has a V8 engined car in it!! :grin:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo123%2FDredtiger%2Ftriplefail.jpg&hash=750383fa5629ca4c2c2b62db3d5559e733d4bac6)

Oh come on John, we're not that daft..  :signLOL:

Oh dear God John, you been sniffing the Meth's again  :innocent:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hurdy on June 14, 2010, 07:22:21 pm
Indeed, this GTi sounds like it has a V8 in it :laugh:

&NR=1

Literally just watched that..  :signLOL:

That's probably because the right lane has a V8 engined car in it!! :grin:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Foo123%2FDredtiger%2Ftriplefail.jpg&hash=750383fa5629ca4c2c2b62db3d5559e733d4bac6)

Oh come on John, we're not that daft..  :signLOL:

Oh dear God John, you been sniffing the Meth's again  :innocent:

 :P, where's my fishing smiley :grin:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hedge on June 14, 2010, 07:29:36 pm
how much do you think your evoms and exhaust make on yours ian.  forgot you had them

From the EVOMS maybe half a dozen ponies and a smidge of torque but nothing really from the exhaust.

There is a theory that the loss of the 'flapper' will reduce the torque but who cares.  :laugh:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Robert74 on June 14, 2010, 09:14:58 pm
It was good to meet up with you guys today. My car actually made 257bhp today, last time it made 260. Thanks dom for the ride in your car to hear exhaust noise levels.

sorry mate, you posting the plot up?

Ok here it is.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Faf281%2Fbobo071174%2FIMG_0001.jpg&hash=ca3390bbe87da09a473d9b3a1320029ed618dd03)
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: bacillus on June 14, 2010, 11:02:14 pm
^^Why did they do the RR in 5th gear?   :confused:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Hedge on June 14, 2010, 11:09:04 pm
^^Why did they do the RR in 5th gear?   :confused:

Don't know why, but don't see the significance.  :confused:
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 15, 2010, 12:47:04 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Faf281%2Fbobo071174%2FIMG_0001.jpg&hash=ca3390bbe87da09a473d9b3a1320029ed618dd03)

looking at yours   thast a good strong graph there, would be interested to see what caused he hiccup in the middle, it seems your torque holds up better than mine later in the RPM band as well.  wander if the performance  panel filter helps that, a little, i might get one as a little stop gap before i et another intake.
^^Why did they do the RR in 5th gear?   :confused:
they use this gear as it is ' the closest 1:1 gear ratio.  (although others use 4th and say the same).  Like hedge though, im not sure if it would have a bearing.  It should make roughly the same power, in 4th or 5th id guess, just with a longer period to run upto the redline, so you'll get a higher sample rate for the graph

Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: bacillus on June 15, 2010, 03:06:36 pm
I think as you say 4th is "the closest 1:1 gear ratio". This would help in the coast down calculation for transmission losses.
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 15, 2010, 03:51:13 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Faf281%2Fbobo071174%2FIMG_0001.jpg&hash=ca3390bbe87da09a473d9b3a1320029ed618dd03)

looking at yours   thast a good strong graph there, would be interested to see what caused he hiccup in the middle, it seems your torque holds up better than mine later in the RPM band as well.  wander if the performance  panel filter helps that, a little, i might get one as a little stop gap before i et another intake.



Looks similar to mine
Title: Re: AMDessex RR Results
Post by: wigit on June 15, 2010, 04:39:46 pm
reassuring that AMD have recalibrated and getting sensible numbers, before it was doing them an injustice