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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: 182_blue on June 14, 2010, 10:58:02 am

Title: DSG Question
Post by: 182_blue on June 14, 2010, 10:58:02 am
Ok, so when in sport or drive i can just use the flappy paddles to move gears up and down ?, and if i does then will it work only in paddles for that drive or does it revert back to Auto ?, or can you turn it off ?, noob question but the manual is not clear ?
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: Hedge on June 14, 2010, 11:02:19 am
It will revert to auto after a set period of time or you can hold the + paddle for 5 secs or so and it will revert.
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: JPC on June 14, 2010, 11:03:11 am
you can use the paddles whenever you like. then if you stop using them after 30 seconds or so, it reverts to auto.

But you can still use the paddles after the 30 secs if you know what i mean
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: 182_blue on June 14, 2010, 11:30:46 am
Ahh i see, i was just coming home and gave it a go and dropped down to third then thought it would go back itself and left me revving the nuts off 3rd  :laugh:
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: edd666999 on June 14, 2010, 11:36:14 am
i forget sometimes too, i have it in manual and completely forget, go everywhere in 2nd  :signLOL:
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: RedRobin on June 14, 2010, 04:43:11 pm
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Probably best to only use D-mode for slow traffic or urban and pop into M-mode at all other times and think and shift exactly as if a conventional manual box. But knowing you can change options and override selections at any time. DSG takes a little bit of getting used to but it becomes natural and fluid.

S-mode is fun on multi-junction roundabouts, especially if someone is harrassing you from behind.. You'll drop them fast unless they are really on it and have the performance.

Think Manual, Drive DSG. Enjoy!
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: neg on June 14, 2010, 09:47:31 pm
If your in manual and coming to a junction you also dont have to worry about changing down, it will do this for you.

I did what sounds like the same thing when I first had mine, does take a bit of getting used to as RR said but once you do ...
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: RedRobin on June 14, 2010, 10:09:51 pm

If your in manual and coming to a junction you also dont have to worry about changing down, it will do this for you.


....I tend to continue thinking manual and shift down the gears but allow it to change from 2nd to 1st automatically which it only does when you come to a stop.
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: 182_blue on June 15, 2010, 01:55:12 pm
Thanks chaps
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: Richn83 on June 15, 2010, 04:38:38 pm
If you do forget it will also automatically shift up at the red-line to save you bouncing off the limiter, and a quick look at the DIS should help you determine what the box is up to.
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: 182_blue on June 16, 2010, 06:39:41 am
Thx chaps, another really daft question, what happens on steep ramps?, I negotiate quite steep ramps in the car park at work, what happens if you stop half way up ?, does the car give you the correct amount of revs to stop you stalling ?, sounds stupid I guess but never had a manual so not sure, ps don't think it has hill hold ?
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: Beddie on June 16, 2010, 06:42:54 am
I normally just hold mine on the footbrake as it will creep backwards if the slope is fairly steep although on gentle stuff it will hold on the dsg but dont like doing it for long periods obviously,
Pretty sure Hillhold is now standard on DSG Scirocco models though  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: 182_blue on June 16, 2010, 06:46:31 am
I normally just hold mine on the footbrake as it will creep backwards if the slope is fairly steep although on gentle stuff it will hold on the dsg but dont like doing it for long periods obviously,
Pretty sure Hillhold is now standard on DSG Scirocco models though  :happy2:

Thx, not sure about hill hold, doesnt seem to say anything in the book
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: Beddie on June 16, 2010, 07:05:42 am
I normally just hold mine on the footbrake as it will creep backwards if the slope is fairly steep although on gentle stuff it will hold on the dsg but dont like doing it for long periods obviously,
Pretty sure Hillhold is now standard on DSG Scirocco models though  :happy2:

Thx, not sure about hill hold, doesnt seem to say anything in the book
Just checked the Rocco brochure i have here and its says that hill hold is standard on DSG models, result!  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: Beddie on June 16, 2010, 07:08:23 am
Also noted in the online pricelist pdf here: http://cdn.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/pricelists/scirocco-pricelist.pdf
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: 182_blue on June 16, 2010, 08:16:43 am
I normally just hold mine on the footbrake as it will creep backwards if the slope is fairly steep although on gentle stuff it will hold on the dsg but dont like doing it for long periods obviously,
Pretty sure Hillhold is now standard on DSG Scirocco models though  :happy2:

Thx, not sure about hill hold, doesnt seem to say anything in the book
Just checked the Rocco brochure i have here and its says that hill hold is standard on DSG models, result!  :happy2:

haha, nice one, thx, so if I don't want it to 'hill hold', I guess I just accelerate ? 
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: RedRobin on June 16, 2010, 08:40:24 am
^^^^
Yes, if you don't want to hold stationary on an incline, just gently use the throttle to balance how you want. Do the same if the incline is a bit too steep for the Hill Assist feature. Experiment, you'll quickly get the feel of it.
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: Richn83 on June 16, 2010, 08:40:59 am
Think it will hill hold automatically regardless and will just release once you have put the revs on to move forwards, should be very easy.  Read your thread on the car last night and have to say that it looks stunning  :party:  ACC in the cars ive tried is also a really useful tool, and I liked what steve p had to say about lowering taking it all up a notch!
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: alastairc on June 24, 2010, 04:13:07 pm
One thing i can totally recommend is the REVO remap for the DSG box.

Prevents kickdown, lets you go to limiter and raises limiter max, reduces shift times, and only steps in when it really has to, i.e . you arrive at a roundabout and forget you are in manual.

I have this combined with Stage 2 and the combination is superb!
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: RedRobin on June 24, 2010, 04:53:00 pm
Hey, Alistair...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi456.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq281%2Fpreeto_f07%2Ftop-10-most-overused-words_8.jpg&hash=1dfa0e985812e11c6704ca9150b5a094b170785d)

I'm Stage2 too (Revo) with Revo DSG map (Stage1) on a Mk5 GTI K03 turbo car. It's subtle but smooooth.
Title: Re: DSG Question
Post by: SteveP on June 24, 2010, 05:39:51 pm
One thing i can totally recommend is the REVO remap for the DSG box.

Prevents kickdown, lets you go to limiter and raises limiter max, reduces shift times, and only steps in when it really has to, i.e . you arrive at a roundabout and forget you are in manual.

I have this combined with Stage 2 and the combination is superb!


Agreed but it's still not available for the current generation DSG boxes in the run out Mk5's (like the Pirelli), Mk6 or Rocco's  :sad1: