MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: no golf clubs at all on June 15, 2010, 08:31:19 am

Title: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 15, 2010, 08:31:19 am
I buried this question in my rambling service question post.

Do main dealers charge for a reflash of the ecu? My local stealer suggested they would not do this at all unless I was having issues....

I had full revo and wanted it removed but not sure what the dealer (since gone bust) flashed it back to.... Just want it back to stock but the @rseholes are saying no  :fighting:
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: s3dubbin on June 15, 2010, 08:53:17 am
Just had mine flashed from audi - mtm 330 has now been wiped - no charge.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 15, 2010, 09:27:30 am
Thanks, I will need to find a VW dealer who will do it clearly Arnold Clark, Jordanhill are as cr@p as ever.

I was booked in for Friday, I am going to cancel and get an appointment with my independent, at least they wont rip me off for what is a five minute check!
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 19, 2010, 08:00:00 pm
Update. the dealer did not check the ecu! It was on the job sheet but failed to do so as the vw online system was "down" :stupid:

It goes back weds for brake work, could do so then, but they want an hours labour.....about £70, what a joke.

Is this something that someone with vagcom could do in 2 minutes? Surely it's a case of plugging into the obdc port with the laptop and reading a value?

Does anyone know what it should be?
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: Poverty on June 19, 2010, 08:04:44 pm
why?

Just put the car back into stock mode?

If the car has the latest firmware the dealership will have to do a hard reflash which apparently requires assistance from head VAG tech.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 19, 2010, 08:09:46 pm
Why? I want it stock with no trace of revo.

I do not have the ability to do this myself, ie no way of putting it into stock.

revo was removed by Drivers Glasgow allegedly, I just want vw to reload the proper sw, is that so difficult for the dealer to do/ understand  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: Poverty on June 19, 2010, 08:12:32 pm
For warranty work? Insurance claim? Only reason I can think of for you not wanting a trace of revo. Tuner might be your next best bet!
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: bacillus on June 19, 2010, 08:15:00 pm
If you know someone with a sps or sps plus switch, ask them to see if they can enable performance mode.
Obviously you can't with the VW stock ecu software.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 19, 2010, 08:16:08 pm
No because my mpg has gone south. I had issues with the revo dealer, I wanted to invoke the 30 day money back no quibble guarantee, he quibbled we squabbled, I'm not convinced they didn't set things to foook me over, call me paranoid but I just want the sw to be reloaded to the current and most original version.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 19, 2010, 08:18:39 pm
Maybe I just need to buy an sps switch and try but for the love of all things good, can't this just be verified by a vagcom check and confirm the sw loaded is what vw say it bloody should be?
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: bacillus on June 19, 2010, 08:23:46 pm
IMO if you had issues with the revo dealer and wanted your money back, I would call the revo support line and see if they can assist you using another local revo agent.

Revo support number is 01327 301901
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: WhiteGTI on June 19, 2010, 09:09:09 pm
I am interested in doing this too, so can it be reflashed with VAGCOM?
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 19, 2010, 09:11:07 pm
Thanks yes. revo was removed or tweaked so it didn't deliver performance, I just want the bog standard software that vw load onto vw mk5 golf gtis. I do not want revo to flash my ecu to their version of the standard map, I just want the OEM software.

so does anyone have an idea what the version number of the latest release is?
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: SteveP on June 19, 2010, 09:25:25 pm
^^^ The revo dealers will have access to the original stock OEM flash so that is all they would have put on.

Why do you think the VW dealer should do it FOC?  :confused:
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 19, 2010, 10:03:39 pm
Ok. I do not think they should do it foc. But all I want is for the dealer to hook up a lap top and tell me that the version is ok or not, it does not take one hour to plug into the obdc port and note the version does it?

My original post asked if they do charge, but that day the dealer actually said they wouldn't even do that at all.

Perfectly happy to pay to get it back if it's needed.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: bacillus on June 19, 2010, 10:28:55 pm
I am interested in doing this too, so can it be reflashed with VAGCOM?

Short answer is no.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: Edition30 on June 20, 2010, 04:49:16 am
^^^ The revo dealers will have access to the original stock OEM flash so that is all they would have put on.

Why do you think the VW dealer should do it FOC?  :confused:

Im not saying this as an actual fact but its just what I have read or been told is that its not the original factory map, it is their own version of the map.

I dont think they would be allowed to use the OEM map either for copyright reasons hence their version of the software.

All imo of course  :happy2:

I too was paranoid after the trial map for some reason. Guess you are when you play with such expensive toys. I will speak to a mate of mine who works for VW. I do recall asking him when I wanted mine doing and he said he couldn't do it...wether that means they cant do it period or that they need a master tech to sort it out.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 20, 2010, 06:06:00 am
^^^^

that'd be great thanks. I'm intersted in this "get online to Vw" business the service receptionist was waffling about. Apparently once they're on it time gets logged and it can take a while...I maybjust have to fork
out an hours labour to get it done after all.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: stealthwolf on June 20, 2010, 08:48:23 am
TBH if I were in your shoes, I would just pay the cash to get it reflashed. Otherwise you'll generate kore headache than it's worth.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: vRStu on June 20, 2010, 09:17:57 am
I doubt if a dealer could instantly tell you if you have the correct software or a REVO version of the software on there.

REVO will modify the OEM software for performance but it will carry the OEM identifiers for the obvious reasons.

I'm also not sure if a dealer can reflash an ECU these days without VAS telling them it needs an update.
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: no golf clubs at all on June 20, 2010, 10:24:12 am
So basically I'm stuffed then? Get revo, get it removed and forever have third party sw on board? Sounds like I need to just go and get it remapped properly  :star:

Tbh I just want it stock  :sad1:
Title: Re: Reflash of ecu
Post by: vRStu on June 20, 2010, 10:28:13 am
So basically I'm stuffed then?

Not at all.

You've been advised to contact REVO directly if you have issue with one of their agents.  Give them a call and ask to speak to Kev Hall.  REVO have copies of the OEM software which the REVO dealers can flash back to the car if required.