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Title: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 15, 2010, 08:51:51 pm
my brother is after something diesel that is involving/entertaining, not much of a power difference if at all, that must be able to cope wih track work.

he's running a stage 1 focus ST at the moment.  he does quite a few track days and needs it o be competent as standard but wants it to be half decent on fuel due to his long commutes.

he says budget is between 8-11k.

I said

Octavia vRS CR170, or BMW of some sort???

what do you guys think he should be looking at.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: jhtrophy on June 15, 2010, 09:35:33 pm
Could only be a 330cd diesel and involving is hard but the 330 and 335 are very good! Could not get 335 for that money though.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 15, 2010, 09:39:24 pm
oh yes u can  :P
have a look on the autotrader
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 15, 2010, 09:42:07 pm
what about a
BMW 123d
alpina d3

whats available other than bmw??

idint the impreza bring out a WRX diesel?
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Hedge on June 15, 2010, 09:47:12 pm
Fabia vRS.  :smiley:

I'll get me coat.  :ashamed:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 15, 2010, 09:53:30 pm
 :grin:  not sure he'd be up for that lol.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: vRS Carl on June 15, 2010, 09:56:40 pm
Silver Slingshot  :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: PDT on June 15, 2010, 10:11:12 pm
3 series with the 163bhp 2.0d engine can see an extra 45bhp and 75 ft/lb with a good map, raise the rev limit slightly and set the boost map up properly and they will pull hard to 5700 rpm and retain 50+ mpg on a run.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 15, 2010, 10:25:21 pm
whats the market like for chassis tuning on the 320D??
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: PDT on June 15, 2010, 10:38:20 pm
theres plenty of stuff out there, but tbh its pretty close to perfect as standard if its got the Msport suspension. If it doesnt have the Msport kit then the Bilstein B12 kit is available for around £600

For a cheap 163bhp version look for a fleet car that is listed as a 150bhp, check the engine code and you might well find that its really a 163 version that is de-tuned. these versions are up to £2k cheaper than a 'genuine' 163 version.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 15, 2010, 10:47:25 pm
 :happy2:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 15, 2010, 11:10:03 pm
Was going to list 335d or 123d till I saw the budget..  :ashamed: My mate has a mapped 330d E46 and that certainly shifted. How focused it would be as a track car though i'm not sure.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Edition30 on June 16, 2010, 01:08:16 am
Have to be a hatchback for me so A3/GTTDI MK5/Leon FR/120-30D
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: jhtrophy on June 16, 2010, 07:55:32 am
oh yes u can  :P
have a look on the autotrader
a 335d for 11k? what autotrader you looking on? as said could only be a bmw for me, by far the best diesels, still a diesel but rwd for bit of fun, a fwd diesel on track would be pretty dull :happy2: cue the i got 250 bhp mapped up diesels that has 10000000000000000 lb of torque people :signLOL:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: vRS Carl on June 16, 2010, 07:58:17 am
My Diesel has 100000000000000000000000000000000lb/ft  :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: B3n on June 16, 2010, 11:04:31 am
As said before a Fabia VRs :happy2:

But if not a BMW 330d M-Sport
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: joesgti on June 16, 2010, 12:17:10 pm
my brother has just bought a e46 330cd and it certainly shifts, just had it mapped by CA automotive, 248bhp and 320torques. still gets between 45-50 mpg on the motorway. he got it with 45k miles and paid 9,500, comes with all the toys aswell as its the top of the range msport disael.  :smiley:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Garth on June 16, 2010, 12:19:15 pm
330cd M-Sport is deffo the best bet for the money. I've had 2 and they drive and handle superbly. Miles better than my GTI or my old S3. I remapped one of them and the torque was immense!

Add to the speed and handling the terrific economy and quiet cruising and it's hard to beat as a package
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Eccie on June 16, 2010, 12:19:28 pm
My Diesel has 100000000000000000000000000000000lb/ft  :signLOL: :signLOL:

That's just a lot of talk :P
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: vRS Carl on June 16, 2010, 02:25:53 pm
Don't you mean Torque   :P :signLOL:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: andrewparker on June 16, 2010, 03:37:16 pm
What about a Megane 2.0 dCi 175 Renaultsport? Evo raved about it.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Edition30 on June 17, 2010, 02:05:53 am
my brother has just bought a e46 330cd and it certainly shifts, just had it mapped by CA automotive, 248bhp and 320torques. still gets between 45-50 mpg on the motorway. he got it with 45k miles and paid 9,500, comes with all the toys aswell as its the top of the range msport disael.  :smiley:

+1 - Forget the hatchbacks actually

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1776514.htm

A lot of car for the money...Just depends what you like I suppose.
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Garth on June 17, 2010, 03:29:38 pm
my brother has just bought a e46 330cd and it certainly shifts, just had it mapped by CA automotive, 248bhp and 320torques. still gets between 45-50 mpg on the motorway. he got it with 45k miles and paid 9,500, comes with all the toys aswell as its the top of the range msport disael.  :smiley:

+1 - Forget the hatchbacks actually

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1776514.htm

A lot of car for the money...Just depends what you like I suppose.
Shame it's an auto, otherwise it would have been great for some track work.

Having said that, I could do with a cheap auto for all the miles I do... I wonder if he would take me GTI as a swap  :grin:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Edition30 on June 17, 2010, 06:37:09 pm
There is another with 65k on that is a manual for £9,500 I am not a big fan of red therefore refused to post it  :grin:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: PDT on June 17, 2010, 07:39:23 pm
This thread has just cost me 10k  :laugh:

I started looking on autotrader yesterday after reading and replying and found a lovely 2005 330d coupe Msport with 40k miles with every extra possible (xenons, electric rear windows, phone prep, cruise, full leather, tiptronic) in silver in pristine condition.

Now its on my drive after spending this morning mapping it  :jumping: it now has 352bhp and 363 f/lb and 40+ mpg



Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: NotNormal on June 17, 2010, 08:05:29 pm
I'm on my 2nd 335d coupe since my mk5 Golf GT 170 Diesel

It is the best diesel engine on the market IMO - even in std trim it's a storming engine - remapped - circa 340bhp - 500+ lbs/ft it's a real contender again some more exotic machines ! ! !

Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: stealthwolf on June 17, 2010, 08:06:44 pm
 :worthless:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: jhtrophy on June 17, 2010, 08:18:43 pm
congrats mate, awsome car :happy2: as said fwd diesel on track would not even come close!! who said fabia vrs :surprised:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: PDT on June 17, 2010, 08:51:43 pm
My Fabia VRS made 250bhp and 380 ft/lb. Hybrid turbo, sachs clutch, exhaust, front mounted intercooler with full stainless and silicon boost pipes, custom map.  It shifted fretty well  :driver:
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: NotNormal on June 17, 2010, 10:15:59 pm
:worthless:

My new un, just bought the other day :

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1752945.htm

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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.images.pistonheads.com%2Faimg%2F1752%2F1752945-5.jpg&hash=f56e4225772ac4a204c4f334534fc45886b2f7b0)

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Power is now around 340bhp and 500+ lbs/ft .... and still a min of 35mpg :D

Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: cal tdi on June 18, 2010, 10:56:00 am
Very nice tom like it alot. Sorry to hear about your last one
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Edition30 on June 18, 2010, 04:01:33 pm
What happened to the last one?  :confused:


Very nice btw, love the 335 BMW's.

Congrats on the 330D purchase aswel PDT. Me wants one...
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Smudgster on June 19, 2010, 09:40:33 am
im on my 3rd bmw 330d, awesome cars.

Want it remapped now but not sure who to use as im down south !!!
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: stealthwolf on June 19, 2010, 09:48:27 am
 :congrats:

Very nice
Title: Re: most involving 170-300hp diesel
Post by: Garth on June 19, 2010, 09:28:55 pm
im on my 3rd bmw 330d, awesome cars.

Want it remapped now but not sure who to use as im down south !!!
I had mine done by Superchips and it was amazing! There's dealers nationwide  :wink: