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Title: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: Poverty on July 01, 2010, 05:31:00 pm
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BMW 135i DKG vs. Volkswagen Golf R DSG

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Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 01, 2010, 05:56:44 pm
thats stupid, you cant compare a 2 door coupe with a hatch back and then disregard the coupe because of space. 
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: vRS Carl on July 01, 2010, 05:59:25 pm
Was just going to post something similar along lines of a stupid verdict. :stupid:

You don't buy a coupe for practicality and I think a better comparison would have been the Rocco R vs the 135i

I'd still have the 135i though on blue over the Golf. Choosing between the Rocco R and the 135i would be a damn site harder
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: Poverty on July 01, 2010, 06:02:40 pm
thats stupid, you cant compare a 2 door coupe with a hatch back and then disregard the coupe because of space. 

Could be lost in the translation from german, but I read it as, if space is of no issue, the 135i wins hands down.
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: PDT on July 01, 2010, 07:13:33 pm
I have driven both, standard and mapped.

135i is better when tuned than the Golf R but it will be rubbish in the winter.
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: jhtrophy on July 01, 2010, 07:15:30 pm
love the 135i, defo a nice step up from any hot hatch
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: Nick S on July 01, 2010, 09:35:13 pm
And you will get treated better by the dealers.  Buy a 40k golf R at VW you get treated the same as the man who buys a fox.  Buy a 20 grand  1 series at BMW in fact buy a 12grand mini and you get treated the same as the man who has bought an M5
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: 182_blue on July 01, 2010, 09:56:58 pm
And you will get treated better by the dealers.  Buy a 40k golf R at VW you get treated the same as the man who buys a fox.  Buy a 20 grand  1 series at BMW in fact buy a 12grand mini and you get treated the same as the man who has bought an M5
Which would be bad treatment if it's same as the BMW dealers I went into  :confused:
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: keith on July 01, 2010, 10:22:55 pm
Got to say not impressed with BMW build quality, would take the R
(plus bmws have no working indicators)
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: andrewparker on July 02, 2010, 07:30:23 am
And you will get treated better by the dealers.  Buy a 40k golf R at VW you get treated the same as the man who buys a fox.  Buy a 20 grand  1 series at BMW in fact buy a 12grand mini and you get treated the same as the man who has bought an M5
Which would be bad treatment if it's same as the BMW dealers I went into  :confused:

Yeah, bit of a generalisation that. I've came across some very poor BMW dealers, and some very good BMW dealers.
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: Jules86 on July 02, 2010, 08:51:47 am
And you will get treated better by the dealers.  Buy a 40k golf R at VW you get treated the same as the man who buys a fox.  Buy a 20 grand  1 series at BMW in fact buy a 12grand mini and you get treated the same as the man who has bought an M5
Which would be bad treatment if it's same as the BMW dealers I went into  :confused:

Same here, got treated like dirt when i said i wanted a mini but didnt want to spend £20k+

She actually came over and took me seriously when she saw me go to my R32, i told her where to go!
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: tony_danza on July 02, 2010, 09:37:59 am
Hmm - strange test to say the least, I guess they just picked the most expensive of each in class as the "halo' model??

BMW's are fine in winter, everyone else in Europe seems to get on ok, it's only the UK that grinds to a halt with a few flakes of snow. But then they all use winter tyres on steels, whilst we're spazzing around on low profile summer tyres....
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: andrewparker on July 02, 2010, 09:53:02 am
Is DKG another name for DCT?
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: RedRobin on July 02, 2010, 10:02:14 am

Is DKG another name for DCT?


....I think it's probably the German language term.

Yep, a strange comparison. My previous car was a 2-seater BMW and really an earlier ancestor of this 135i and I changed it for the Golf. Not for reasons of performance but for simply both passenger and load accommodation. Personally I'd choose the BMW over a Rocco.
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: cmdrfire on July 02, 2010, 10:37:44 am
Is DKG another name for DCT?

DKG is DoppelKupplungGetriebe I believe (dual clutch gearbox)
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: paulk on July 02, 2010, 10:49:56 am
i really like the bmw, wasnt so keen at first but they have grown on me
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: tony_danza on July 02, 2010, 11:01:44 am
They don't photograph well, at all, it seems to make dents and bows and weird lines. In the metal though they make more sense.

The 'flame' design pings light off in really interesting ways. Risky, and everyone hated the bangle cars at first, but then I think they'll just be the norm in time.

Not pretty, but good looking, fresh and interesting is how I'd describe it.

The BMW power pack is interesting too, more remapped power/torque, an oil cooler and uprated fan - all warranty approved too!
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: cmdrfire on July 02, 2010, 11:09:03 am
i really like the bmw, wasnt so keen at first but they have grown on me

You know what, I couldn't stand them when they first came out, but I was stopped next to one at the traffic lights on the way to work and I found myself thinking how nice it looked.
Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: andrewparker on July 02, 2010, 11:17:57 am
How is the rear space in the 135i compared to a 3-Series Coupe? Price-wise 135i money only buys you a 320i M Sport, so there is obviously a massive gap in performance, but is the space gain of the 3 that much more? I used to have a 325Ci M Sport - awesome car but was mega-thirsty. Always felt a bit heavy.

Title: Re: Golf R vs 135i
Post by: tony_danza on July 02, 2010, 11:31:51 am
There's more rear room in the coupe than the hatch. I think the boot volume is bigger too, but obviously less flexible.