MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Tyre Noise
Post by: RustyGTI on July 03, 2010, 07:42:30 pm
Thought I'd give an update after asking you chaps about tyre noise recently...

Took the GTi to Bathwick Tyres in Trowbridge to ask for some advice as to why my rear tyres were so noisy...after a quick inspection the chap concluded the tyres were not only wearing on the inner rim on both sides, but also that the wear was uneven...and that this is probably what's causing the pulsating droning noise. Actually now he has pointed it out I can actually feel the uneven tread depth on each tyre if I run my hand over the surface.

So, have it booked into VW next Thursday for a geometry check and might need to get two new rear tyres  :confused:, might change the Bridgestones from some Vredestein's once the cause has been found...

Am guessing other people have had this problem? I did phone the VW garage I bought it from and they claim they have had no other GTi's with this problem...hmmm <strokes chin>

PS: Thanks to those who posted a reply last time...
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Beddie on July 03, 2010, 08:49:13 pm
Its a common problem unfortunately...  :sad1:
Affected both my MK5 GTI's and an Audi A3 i had, Dunlop tyres seem to suffer the most..
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Saint Steve on July 03, 2010, 09:30:14 pm
Dunlop loose their shape, I wouldn't adjust cars geometry personally as it's set differently to help the GTi's cornering ability, just put some vreds  tyres on and I've worn a set down with no uneven wear since, and I've worn a set since the dunflops.
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: nc35 on July 04, 2010, 11:16:00 am
Had the same problem with mine too.

I had two bad bearings/hubs...  One was completely shot and the other was on the way out.

The only way to tell properly is to get the car on a lift and listen when you spin the wheel, as there is almost no movement.

The transformation in noise is unbelievable.  Both bearings inc fitting £120 supposedly a higher quality than the VW OE parts and cheaper than the £125 plus vat plus fitting each as quoted by VW.

Highly recommend you get them checked.
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: RustyGTI on July 04, 2010, 05:20:13 pm
Its a common problem unfortunately...  :sad1:
Affected both my MK5 GTI's and an Audi A3 i had, Dunlop tyres seem to suffer the most..

Hmm, I have Bridgestones but maybe they've gone the same way.

Did you manage to cure it by just buying a different brand?

I hope it's not my bearings as it's an Approved used Golf so you'd have thought this would have been checked. Mind you, thinking back I remember on the test drive they made a fair bit of noise...I thought it was due to the tyres being a hard compund, they must have known the tyres were shot back then surely...trouble is they weren't illegal...
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Saint Steve on July 04, 2010, 06:03:12 pm
Bridgestones and Dunlops both suffer with unbalanced tyre wear. Your find the assymetric tyres wont suffer with unbalanced wear issue.Ive done 48k in my Ed30, with same wheele bearings, and quiet now as a kitten.
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: nc35 on July 04, 2010, 07:20:54 pm
Where are you?

Perhaps a fresh set of ears could diagnose. Or loan someones quiet wheels & Tyres.

Been told replica rims can also be noisy.

BTW mine was also a used approved.
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: RustyGTI on July 04, 2010, 07:21:07 pm
Great, lets hope the Vreds do the trick!

Will look on the web this week to get some ordered...any recommendations as to where to get them from?

Thanks

Russ

PS: Am in Wiltshire...
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Saint Steve on July 04, 2010, 07:45:39 pm
Camskill. Co.uk

I'm in Southampton.hampshire

you will find it hard to locate vreds as there's a general shortage of supply. Camskill have plenty of them and are priced fairly. Quick delivery, order by 11am , receive next day
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Mandy on July 04, 2010, 07:51:43 pm
Camskill have the Vreds on offer at the mo, £87.95 a corner (225/40/18), currently cheapest price I have seen.

I shall be ordering 4 as my Falkens on the front are  :sick:
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Neimad on July 04, 2010, 10:38:11 pm
Bridgestones and Dunlops both suffer with unbalanced tyre wear. Your find the assymetric tyres wont suffer with unbalanced wear issue.Ive done 48k in my Ed30, with same wheele bearings, and quiet now as a kitten.

The Goodyear F1 Assymetrics I most recently had on my rear sufferred with the dreaded inner unbalanced wear (or sawtoothing as it's also known), as did the Dunlops that the car started life with and the Goodyear F1 GSD3's that replaced them.  After it destroyed 3 sets of rear tyres I finally decided to have my rear camber adjusted -- I'd rather have evenly worn tyres and lose some cornering speed than keep feeding its habit for eating my tyres.
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Saint Steve on July 04, 2010, 10:42:25 pm
Yours must of had an issue. Mine havent since changing to assyms from my dunlops wearing badly previously.

Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Neil on July 05, 2010, 10:05:52 am
I have a set of new Bridgestone RE050s all round on my GT TDi, the noise from the fronts is terrible. I`m considering changing the fronts for a pair of Vreds and hope it solves the issue. I`ve used Goodyear Assymetrics before with no issues at all but fancy trying something different . . Vreds it may well be  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: RustyGTI on July 05, 2010, 12:36:07 pm
I have a set of new Bridgestone RE050s all round on my GT TDi, the noise from the fronts is terrible. I`m considering changing the fronts for a pair of Vreds and hope it solves the issue. I`ve used Goodyear Assymetrics before with no issues at all but fancy trying something different . . Vreds it may well be  :smiley:

Yes, it's the Bridgestone RE050s that I have on the rear of my car and I've found them to be noisy - think it may be a combination of the compound and the fact they have worn unevenly...can't wait to get rid of them (although the annoying thing is they are still legal!!)

...I've got the car booked in Thursday to see if the geometry is right, if they don't recommend changing it I'm going to get some new tyres anyway and see how they go...probably Vred's or Conti's...
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Neil on July 05, 2010, 01:06:29 pm


...I've got the car booked in Thursday to see if the geometry is right, if they don't recommend changing it I'm going to get some new tyres anyway and see how they go...probably Vred's or Conti's...


I`d considered having the geometry done too, it`s just a matter of finding someone local who knows what they`re doing.

 I`ll wait and see how you get on :)
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: RustyGTI on July 08, 2010, 09:56:39 pm
OK, so car went in today for the geometry check and surprise, surprise it needed re-alignment...apparently this is what's causing the tyre wear. Having said that I think I'm still going to buy some new tyres and ditch the Bridgestone RE050's...

Getting the car back tomorrow hopefully...so can advise then if any difference in noise...
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: Bogwoppit on July 08, 2010, 10:33:12 pm
If the bridgestones have a fair amount of tread on them, then refit them onto the wheels so the feathered edge is on the outside not the inside.
Title: Re: Tyre Noise
Post by: JJ on September 09, 2010, 07:33:56 pm
Please forgive my ignorance.  I've just had my car back from it's first MoT today and it came with an advisory that the inner edges of both front tyres are feathering.  Do I need to get the tracking/alignment checked or can I just ignore it?  I've got loads of tread and no uneven wear as far as I can see.  Is feathering a bit like scrubbing?