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General => Detailing => Topic started by: pipston on July 06, 2010, 10:27:08 am

Title: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: pipston on July 06, 2010, 10:27:08 am
hello,

was hoping for some clarification on a topic that to me is increasingly becoming a grey area...

my car is going into the bodyshop in 2 weeks for ed30 colour coding and was hoping to have the whole thing mopped to improve the paint, take out a small bit of swirling (although its not too bad) and small scratches etc...

since having it booked in ive heard completely different opinions as to whether mopping a black car will actually increase or decrease the swirls in the car. a few people have said that the circular motion of the mop will create swirls and that you should only polish a black car in straight lines (front to back etc) whilst others (inlcuding most people on here) have said that a full mop will actually remove the swirls?  :confused:

im completely confused, and dont want to have it done if it will actually make my paint worse. help and advice MUCHLY appreciated.

thanks,
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: JPC on July 06, 2010, 12:46:15 pm
DO NOT LET THE BODYSHOP "MOP" IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i cant say that any louder, dont do it. get them to paint it and do their thing, but then speak to your local detailer. Honestly, even the best bodyshops in the country will make a mess when they "mop" the whole car!
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: icenutter on July 06, 2010, 02:13:08 pm
I think that the people that say mopping will make the swirls worse, have probably only seen substandard work.  There is a small chance that the bodyshop will do a good job, probably not.

My advice would be to get the parts sprayed, then get the whole corrected by a professional detailer.  You're probably looking at about £200-300+ for a correction taking about one day. You'll find someone to do it on http://www.detailingworld.co.uk
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: pipston on July 06, 2010, 02:16:20 pm
I think that the people that say mopping will make the swirls worse, have probably only seen substandard work.  There is a small chance that the bodyshop will do a good job, probably not.

My advice would be to get the parts sprayed, then get the whole corrected by a professional detailer.  You're probably looking at about £200-300+ for a correction taking about one day. You'll find someone to do it on http://www.detailingworld.co.uk

DO NOT LET THE BODYSHOP "MOP" IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i cant say that any louder, dont do it. get them to paint it and do their thing, but then speak to your local detailer. Honestly, even the best bodyshops in the country will make a mess when they "mop" the whole car!

Great, i think that pretty much clears that up! thanks for your help guys.  :happy2:
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: Rob GTI on July 06, 2010, 04:37:47 pm
What is mopping then, I thought it was just another name for machine polishing?
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: icenutter on July 06, 2010, 04:45:30 pm
Fundamentally it is, but the old-fashioned polishes that people use have to be used with water (hence mopping).  This causes problems as it is hard to control the thickness and thus effectivesness.

You can it in action here

at about 6:40 onwards.
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: JPC on July 06, 2010, 06:13:21 pm
ABSOLUTE CRINGE!!!
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: Andy on July 06, 2010, 06:36:14 pm
that will give you nightmares Jay you watching that :signLOL:
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: JPC on July 06, 2010, 07:09:17 pm
it did the first time round i watched it.

just made me think about the others watching it on discovery going "oh...ill try that" eeeak!
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: Hedge on July 06, 2010, 08:43:20 pm
it did the first time round i watched it.

just made me think about the others watching it on discovery going "oh...ill try that" eeeak!

Just off to get my drill out. Whats the worst that can happen.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: JPC on July 06, 2010, 08:50:41 pm
dont forget the scouring pad for the scratches as well...ive had that before!

www.miglior.co.uk/505.html

3rd photo!
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: Gti_Mad on July 06, 2010, 09:04:31 pm
wow that paintwork was bad..... but it looks brand new after you had finished.... when i get a new car im defo gona have 2 take a trip down to you jay  :happy2:  :happy2:
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: JPC on July 06, 2010, 09:10:58 pm
Cheers mate! ;)
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: illyun on July 21, 2010, 06:03:13 pm
The work you've done on that blue Audi is nothing short of a miracle and the results are stunning :congrats:
Title: Re: black car; to mop or not to mop???
Post by: JPC on July 21, 2010, 07:38:52 pm
Why thankyou ;)