MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: Simebaby on July 10, 2010, 07:27:17 pm
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Hi All
I've just had an RNS 510 fitted and everything was fine (nav in highline displayed etc), except the buttons on the MFSW don't work (volume, track skip and mute). The guy who did it said as the unit was european and the car is a UK model, the steering wheel couldn't be coded does that sound right?
I then tried updating the firmware to see if that cured the problem - and the unit refuses to update. I've tried various firmwares and none worked, and I can't figure out why - especially v2760. This is the hardware version information:
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This is the process that happens for every update:
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg716.imageshack.us%2Fimg716%2F7524%2Fimg0328vi.th.jpg&hash=1f0f08441ad79b84843e461be500046e42e86cfd) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/img0328vi.jpg/)
Then the error (010306):
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Does anyone have any idea what the error means? I've tried burning in imgburn and nero, all at minimum speed, using verbatim dvds and CDs.
Cheers
Si.
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I've just had an RNS 510 fitted and everything was fine (nav in highline displayed etc), except the buttons on the MFSW don't work (volume, track skip and mute). The guy who did it said as the unit was european and the car is a UK model, the steering wheel couldn't be coded does that sound right?
Er, no. Volume should work regardless of which Highline screen you are on, and track skip should work if your Highline is on the Audio screen.
Was your MFSW retrofitted or factory? I don't suppose you have access to VCDS? Age of car would be helpful....
I then tried updating the firmware to see if that cured the problem - and the unit refuses to update.
Is there much of a delay between the "Starting SWL" screen and the error screen? Can you play a DVD and an audio CD ok?
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Er, no. Volume should work regardless of which Highline screen you are on, and track skip should work if your Highline is on the Audio screen.
Was your MFSW retrofitted or factory? I don't suppose you have access to VCDS? Age of car would be helpful....
MFSW was factory fitted. Car is an 07/07 R32. I don't have access to VCDS.
Is there much of a delay between the "Starting SWL" screen and the error screen? Can you play a DVD and an audio CD ok?
Not much of a delay - 30 seconds or so (might be less). DVDs and Audio CDs play fine.
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How old is the car ?, did they try to VCDS it ?
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Oh and who did it ?
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How old is the car ?, did they try to VCDS it ?
It's a 2007 R32. I assume some coding was done as the navigation info is displayed in the highline - but the guy said that because the unit was an EU one (I got it on eBay) and the car was UK the Steering wheel couldn't be coded. I must admit I didn't speak to the tech directly, and it was done at a VW dealer for free as a favour from a friend, so I didn't whinge too much at the time.
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MFSW was factory fitted. Car is an 07/07 R32. I don't have access to VCDS.
I'll hazard a guess its just not properly coded. When you scroll through the MFSW screens (with the RNS turned on) do you see a screen called Audio?
Did this unit replace a MFD2 sat nav?
If you've purchased this from an installer then I would be inclined to get them to come back and code it properly!
Not much of a delay - 30 seconds or so (might be less). DVDs and Audio CDs play fine.
If the DVD drive is working OK then there are two likely problems. Either the firmware you have downloaded is incorrect - there are modified firmware images for Skodas for example that will fail to load on a VW unit, or the download is just corrupted - it happens, always worth downloading again if you are 100% sure it's a valid VW image. It might be that the mods won't like you posting links to firmware images but perhaps if you PM me the source I can help you determine if it's valid or not?
Another possibility is that this is a unit that has been bricked and then repaired. A bricked unit is one that has failed a firmware upgrade in the past and is then rendered useless without a hardware repair. There are a number of causes for a failure to upgrade firmware - some legitimate, some not. The repair for a bricked unit can mean that it cannot then accept further firmware upgrades.
I'm sure there'll be some good news along shortly.......
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do you get turn signal on highline (if you have it), ps upgrading the unit will not help you so stop right now LOL
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do you get turn signal on highline (if you have it), ps upgrading the unit will not help you so stop right now LOL
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@ OP, where are you located, as I am sure someone on here will be able to help with VCDS to get it coded correctly. :happy2:
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do you get turn signal on highline (if you have it), ps upgrading the unit will not help you so stop right now LOL
Yes.
Fair do's regarding the update - I only tried it to see if it would fix the MFSW problem so I'll stop then.
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@ OP, where are you located, as I am sure someone on here will be able to help with VCDS to get it coded correctly. :happy2:
I'm in Barnsley (South Yorkshire).
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The guy who fitted it is talking a load of bollocks.
The reason your MFSW buttons are not working is due to one of two things
1. The Firmware that is on the MFD3. It has been loaded with a Firmware that has had the PQTable swapped with the wrong model car. Basically each disc has every firmware on it (Seat,VW,Skoda etc) when it goes into the unit it detects which Unit it is in and loads the Appropriate firmware. What has happened is someone has edited the Firmware to get the MFSW working in a Different car. Some people have the same problem with regards the MFSW not working with Skoda etc. The cure in all but one case i know of was editing of the disc by swapping the PQTable.FLI and SKTable.FLI files around.
The only other reason that unit is not working with the MFSW is that the Muppet who installed it ( and he must be judging by the crap he has already fed you) doesn't know how to code it properly.
With regards to the firmware not loading on and the constant error will be down to the burning process. Download the firmware (you should be able to find one on here as i have listed a couple) and then burn it at the slowest possible speed. Make sure afterwards you verify the disc and then you should find it works fine.
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do you get turn signal on highline (if you have it), ps upgrading the unit will not help you so stop right now LOL
Yes.
Fair do's regarding the update - I only tried it to see if it would fix the MFSW problem so I'll stop then.
its high enough, possibly to high, i think hes talking crap and proper coding is needed
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Does anyone know of a guide anywhere to the coding required via VCDS to get the MFSW working?
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Does anyone know of a guide anywhere to the coding required via VCDS to get the MFSW working?
the below may help, looks like he did the bap, maybe need to see if he did the short press
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?697-Multi-Function-Steering-wheel-problem/page2
ps, as mentioned in the thread check the steering wheel controller, mine was not programmed correctly after the cruise was installed on the d30, and this was the dealers !!
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Sorted - a re-install of a clean firmware v2680 fixed it. No re-coding required. I'm guessing that the firmware installed on the unit when it arrived wasn't 100% original - as the test menu was enabled by default, for a start.
Thanks to everyone who replied.
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Told you :P
Glad you sorted it :happy2:
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Told you :P
Glad you sorted it :happy2:
Indeed you did! :smiley:
One more question: Everything works perfectly, but if I reboot the unit (Setup + Eject + Info) then when it restarts it comes up with the update message (i.e. The system cannot start - Please insert SWL disc or similar). Anyone knows why this happens? Does it happen on anyone else's unit?
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Probably due to putting the same version of firmware on it.
If it works ok I wouldn't worry about it :happy2:
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The guy who fitted it is talking a load of bollocks.
The reason your MFSW buttons are not working is due to one of two things
1. The Firmware that is on the MFD3. It has been loaded with a Firmware that has had the PQTable swapped with the wrong model car. Basically each disc has every firmware on it (Seat,VW,Skoda etc) when it goes into the unit it detects which Unit it is in and loads the Appropriate firmware. What has happened is someone has edited the Firmware to get the MFSW working in a Different car. Some people have the same problem with regards the MFSW not working with Skoda etc. The cure in all but one case i know of was editing of the disc by swapping the PQTable.FLI and SKTable.FLI files around.
I have the same problem and was told to swap the PQTABLE.FLI and TOTABLE.FLI.
I got the RNS from Ebay so dont know which car if came from. When I swapped the files around I lost all MFSW control (including volume which did work)
Look at the system information the HW VEHICLE is set to 0XC001 what car did my unit come from so I can change the correct files ?
Thanks....
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Adding to the above I have tried re-loading the standard fireware and have now got volume up/down back
Just need help from somone with a VAG tool to set the car I think !
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Andy to fix my problem BAP was turned on with VCDS
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Noticed that this thread meantions upgrades to the firmware of RNS510....my question is, is this DIY or can/would a dealer perform this? I'm interested in updating my RNS510 in my Pirelli (12/08) to a later version (not sure which one) to give me full post code functionality and a larger SDHC card capability. I've seen various threads about downloading the updates etc but it all sounds a bit risky.....
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If it is a factory fit Nav it will be fine. The risk was with older units where the EEPROM had been soldered to reset the unlock code.
Follow this tutorial and you won't go far wrong :happy2:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23779.0.html
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The guy who fitted it is talking a load of bollocks.
The reason your MFSW buttons are not working is due to one of two things
1. The Firmware that is on the MFD3. It has been loaded with a Firmware that has had the PQTable swapped with the wrong model car. Basically each disc has every firmware on it (Seat,VW,Skoda etc) when it goes into the unit it detects which Unit it is in and loads the Appropriate firmware. What has happened is someone has edited the Firmware to get the MFSW working in a Different car. Some people have the same problem with regards the MFSW not working with Skoda etc. The cure in all but one case i know of was editing of the disc by swapping the PQTable.FLI and SKTable.FLI files around.
I have the same problem and was told to swap the PQTABLE.FLI and TOTABLE.FLI.
I got the RNS from Ebay so dont know which car if came from. When I swapped the files around I lost all MFSW control (including volume which did work)
Look at the system information the HW VEHICLE is set to 0XC001 what car did my unit come from so I can change the correct files ?
Thanks....
You've been told to swap the wrong files. It's PQTable and SKTable that should be swapped and that's only for Skoda cars. For VW there is no requirement to swap anything.
My advice for you now would be to download either the 276X or 130X firmware linked in the tutorial I have put in the post above.
This should solve your problem. If not it probably means the unit isn't coded properly.
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The guy who fitted it is talking a load of bollocks.
The reason your MFSW buttons are not working is due to one of two things
1. The Firmware that is on the MFD3. It has been loaded with a Firmware that has had the PQTable swapped with the wrong model car. Basically each disc has every firmware on it (Seat,VW,Skoda etc) when it goes into the unit it detects which Unit it is in and loads the Appropriate firmware. What has happened is someone has edited the Firmware to get the MFSW working in a Different car. Some people have the same problem with regards the MFSW not working with Skoda etc. The cure in all but one case i know of was editing of the disc by swapping the PQTable.FLI and SKTable.FLI files around.
I have the same problem and was told to swap the PQTABLE.FLI and TOTABLE.FLI.
I got the RNS from Ebay so dont know which car if came from. When I swapped the files around I lost all MFSW control (including volume which did work)
Look at the system information the HW VEHICLE is set to 0XC001 what car did my unit come from so I can change the correct files ?
Thanks....
You've been told to swap the wrong files. It's PQTable and SKTable that should be swapped and that's only for Skoda cars. For VW there is no requirement to swap anything.
My advice for you now would be to download either the 276X or 130X firmware linked in the tutorial I have put in the post above.
This should solve your problem. If not it probably means the unit isn't coded properly.
Got the problem fixed by a garage that had VCDS and they turned BAP on and it all works now..........
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Hey guys
My Device is B unite,i tried to install the 3810 somehow it convert my device to D
Delivery Part Number : 1T0035680D
HW version :H02
SW-Version : 3810
after the update finished i couldn't copy the Map V8 Western Europe to my HDD its keep saying please insere the navi DVD,
is downgranding to low firmware will help?
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Oops. This may help. http://www.my-gti.com/3093/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-3810-3814-3816-3818 (http://www.my-gti.com/3093/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-3810-3814-3816-3818)
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Oops. This may help. http://www.my-gti.com/3093/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-3810-3814-3816-3818 (http://www.my-gti.com/3093/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-3810-3814-3816-3818)
this actualy the firmware i installed in my device,
the only problem i have now can't copy the MAP to the device keep telling me disk error,
i download Western Europe V8 5.5GB i edite the ISO by deleting the EDB folder and recreated the new iso but still no vail,
note i can copy Easter Europe wihtout problems ( 3.2GB original)