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Title: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Becca88 on July 11, 2010, 12:22:03 am
Hi guys. a friend of anthonys came down today to have a spin in his car as hes thinkin of getting stage 1 jbs turbo, they decided to get to 2nd gear then both accelerate so his mate could see the difference in power and the standard r32 pulled away from anthony so i tried with my ED30 and did the same. his clutch has been slipping and its booked in the end of the month to be done but could there be another reason for the lack of acceleration? the boost/power was there with the turbo it just wouldnt pull like it should, it should have pulled way ahead of me .... any ideas? cheers :-)
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: S2 Ant on July 11, 2010, 12:27:43 am
What power was the car? The R32's benefit will be standing start with the 4wd, once moving its just dead weight so you'll have a weight advantage
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Becca88 on July 11, 2010, 01:11:28 am
its 400 bhp, been Turbo'd, thats a fair comment but it happend against a standard R32 aswell ...  :confused:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: MAT ED30 on July 11, 2010, 08:50:59 am
Sounds like there is a problem with the map as a r32 with 400bhp pull very hard so I would be getting jbs to have a look at it asap
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 11, 2010, 09:21:48 am
well it came from JBS so it prob had custom code software on it :laugh:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: ukdub on July 11, 2010, 10:17:16 am
well it came from JBS so it prob had custom code software on it :laugh:

Dont forget the Chinese turbo as well :signLOL:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Hedge on July 11, 2010, 10:27:49 am
A standard ED30 is quicker than a standard R32 I can confirm that.

As for the turbo'd R32 is that a JBS verified 400bhp or somewhere independant.

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 11, 2010, 11:32:28 am
i reckon it got beaten because the inside of the engine is slowly eating away at itself.  I really cant see an ed30 keeping up with a 400hp R32.  so there is something amiss, either its rubbish mapping or there is something wrong with that R32
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: B3n on July 11, 2010, 11:47:19 am
Try it in 3rd and 4th gear then see what happens.
It doesnt sound right though :happy2:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Becca88 on July 11, 2010, 12:30:54 pm
How would the map alter all of a sudden? its been fine for 6 months. its booked in with jbs at the end of the month for the clutch and stage 2. he best give them a ring tomorrow. as you can guess i was over the moon about it but anthony was and still is peed off...
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Poppa Dom on July 11, 2010, 12:39:20 pm
If it has been fine I would suggest that they get some logging done, most issues such as this are down to boost leaks.
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Poverty on July 11, 2010, 01:19:01 pm
if the clutch is slipping then disregard the test! You cant compare a car that isnt running properly to ones that are!
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Becca88 on July 11, 2010, 02:46:29 pm
Thanks for some of the comments ... Didnt ask for critisism ...

A standard ED30 is quicker than a standard R32 I can confirm that.

As for the turbo'd R32 is that a JBS verified 400bhp or somewhere independant.

 :popcornsoda:

Ian, it was JBS that verified 400bhp


It has been runninng fine cos he left me standing when i first had my ED30


if the clutch is slipping then disregard the test! You cant compare a car that isnt running properly to ones that are!

You are right there it has still annoyed him though, will just have to wait and see what JBS have to say
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Hurdy on July 11, 2010, 08:18:25 pm
400bhp in a 4wd isn't the same as 400bhp in a FWD. The drivetrain losses are quite a bit bigger with a 4WD, so it may well be that the R32 has less horsies to the floor than a tuned ED30. Also figure into the equation that an R32 is a good 100-150kg heavier than an ED30 and it becomes a closer call than you'd think. :happy2:

I went up against the JBS 440bhp R32 and he lost to 60mph and to the finish line. James said that he screwed the change to 3rd, but I'd already got him beat by then :signLOL:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Blade on July 11, 2010, 08:51:11 pm
I ran against a 600bhp VR6 Turbo. 2nd gear off a roundabout up to 140..........pulled about 5 cars on him. :grin:













he was spinning in every gear.......power is nothing without control they say :driver:     
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Top Cat on July 11, 2010, 09:14:55 pm
I beat a veyron twice and wiped the floor with a Ed 30 with 400 BHP and Nos.  :grin:


 
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Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: ollie288 on July 11, 2010, 10:07:30 pm
^  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Poverty on July 12, 2010, 12:24:19 am
400bhp in a 4wd isn't the same as 400bhp in a FWD. The drivetrain losses are quite a bit bigger with a 4WD, so it may well be that the R32 has less horsies to the floor than a tuned ED30. Also figure into the equation that an R32 is a good 100-150kg heavier than an ED30 and it becomes a closer call than you'd think. :happy2:

I went up against the JBS 440bhp R32 and he lost to 60mph and to the finish line. James said that he screwed the change to 3rd, but I'd already got him beat by then :signLOL:

That is true also, when rolling running agai nst my mate with his sportec remapped TTRS we are dead even, shame I cant share vids.
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Hurdy on July 12, 2010, 01:24:24 am
I beat a veyron twice and wiped the floor with a Ed 30 with 400 BHP and NO Nos.  :grin:


 
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 :P

No NOS and only setting 3 on the timing for me.

Had to let you win 'cos peeps tell me you moan constantly if you lose  :booty:
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Top Cat on July 12, 2010, 09:07:30 am
I beat a veyron twice and wiped the floor with a Ed 30 with 400 BHP and NO Nos.  :grin:


 
                                :star:     :star:    :star:

 :P

No NOS and only setting 3 on the timing for me.


Had to let you win 'cos peeps tell me you moan constantly if you lose  :booty:

Thats my point about how ridiculous these threads are, there are so many variables that you simply cant make a comparison, so its just a willy waving thread.  :P

In fact the only way you could really use it as a comparison if it was on a official track with timing equipment.  :wink:
OH! hang on when i beat the ED30 it was measured and timed.  :grin:

Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Becca88 on July 12, 2010, 10:10:30 pm
My ED30 is standard so there is no way i should have beaten him
I didnt post to see whos car is faster, was looking for some advice
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Hurdy on July 13, 2010, 12:52:10 am
In that case there is no way you should have beaten the R32 :confused:

Methinks he should try getting his money back or go back to the tuner to get it sorted as there is plainly something amiss!
Title: Re: Beat an R32 Turbo today ... We cant figure out why
Post by: Becca88 on July 15, 2010, 09:31:28 am
Its booked in on the 27th now so wont be long and we should find out what went wrong. They said they will check the car over and do some data logging before they work on it and add stage two and the clutch