MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: no golf clubs at all on July 13, 2010, 08:10:57 am
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I love it but.. Bought a bumper and I can STILL lose signal by holding it "the wrong way"
I reckon apple will affect a fix soon though or do a recall...not sure what to do for the best. :scared:
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they wont recall it, not a chance.
go get urself a HTC desire and never look back.
you dont have to pay extra for that phone :happy2:
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Software update coming that sorts the problem so stop bar watching :rolleye:
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Keep it!
Software update wont fix the issue, but will ensure the bars displayed are more accurate etc.
Use the phone normally - I dont understand why people keep doing the 'death grip' in the first place - surely thats not how you would hold the phone under normal usage anyways? When I get mine I wont even test it that way, I'll use it normally (Im right handed anyway, which will help I guess!), and see how I get on.
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Keep it!
Software update wont fix the issue, but will ensure the bars displayed are more accurate etc.
Use the phone normally - I dont understand why people keep doing the 'death grip' in the first place - surely thats not how you would hold the phone under normal usage anyways? When I get mine I wont even test it that way, I'll use it normally (Im right handed anyway, which will help I guess!), and see how I get on.
Cos I'm right handed and hold the phone in my left whilst surfing and navigating forums, bigjugsdot com etc :star:
Btw it also cn lose signal when in my pocket. Not exactly great for incoming calls....
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Keep it!
Software update wont fix the issue, but will ensure the bars displayed are more accurate etc.
Use the phone normally - I dont understand why people keep doing the 'death grip' in the first place - surely thats not how you would hold the phone under normal usage anyways? When I get mine I wont even test it that way, I'll use it normally (Im right handed anyway, which will help I guess!), and see how I get on.
Cos I'm right handed and hold the phone in my left whilst surfing and navigating forums, bigjugsdot com etc :star:
Btw it also can lose signal when in my pocket. Not exactly great for incoming calls....
LOL, can i ask how you know that
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Keep it!
Software update wont fix the issue, but will ensure the bars displayed are more accurate etc.
Use the phone normally - I dont understand why people keep doing the 'death grip' in the first place - surely thats not how you would hold the phone under normal usage anyways? When I get mine I wont even test it that way, I'll use it normally (Im right handed anyway, which will help I guess!), and see how I get on.
Cos I'm right handed and hold the phone in my left whilst surfing and navigating forums, bigjugsdot com etc :star:
Btw it also can lose signal when in my pocket. Not exactly great for incoming calls....
LOL, can i ask how you know that
more than likely theres an app for that
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^^^ because dear boy....when I take the phone out of my pocket I see this message on occasion :smiley:
(sorry for the fuzzy pic, NOT taken with iphone 4)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgg277%2Fnogolfclubsatall%2Fiphone4.jpg&hash=a163b42b8b19af1a122dda93461753da03e24bc3)
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never seen that :congrats:
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Gotta be honest the reception issue is really starting to get on my tits too! :fighting:
I've droppped far more calls with the 4 and sat in my lounge I can't send a txt unless I put the phone down then retry! :stupid: Not good as I never had these issues with my 3GS. Was contemplating switching back..................
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Got to admit I am really suprised and dissapointed about this signal issue, one of the big things about the iP4 was better reception.
Dont see a software update being able to fix it.
Whens the next one coming out ... :laugh:
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My g/f had her 4 since release but not noticed any issues, she perfectly happy with it
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My g/f had her 4 since release but not noticed any issues, she perfectly happy with it
mine has been fine too, i get reception in places i never had it before ?
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Software update coming that sorts the problem so stop bar watching :rolleye:
Software update won't actually fix the issue, it'll just make it seem less bad. Point is that both Anandtech and researcher at Cardiff University independently found a roughly -19dB attenuation when the iPhone 4 is held such that the two antennae are bridged. That's a 4x loss of signal! (Remember that dB is a logarithmic scale).
My dad's getting really peed off with his iPhone 4s - he's considering swapping one for an HTC Desire. He's an Apple guy through and through so that speaks volumes!
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mines been spot on and never had any probs at all :confused: the bars do go down but mines got a case around it so its been ok
edit that mine just dropped to 1 bar from 5 :signLOL:
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I am more concerned that the "fault" has NOT been fixed by the addition of the £25 bumper! :fighting:
Sure, it improves it but I really have started now to notice the issue, particularly when surfing/ browsing...perhaps the build up of heat in the hand has something to do with making it worse.
Bit sick of the issue now, the forums across the planet are going tonto over this issue, I am sure the yanks will slap some kind of class action on Apple soon.
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There's already a class-action lawsuit in progress in Cali.
Gizmodo's also campaigning for, if the fault can't be fixed, free "bumper" covers.
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well ive had my 4 since release and have had not one single problem with it? its the best phone ive had admittedly i was a little bit dissapointed but still is a great phone! and i get more signal now then i ever had, i never used to get wifi or a bar of signal in my bedroom now i get 2 bars of wifi and 3 bars of signal! so i cant understand where all this signal loss is coming from? maybe a bad batch? or 2? or 3? or 4?....
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well ive had my 4 since release and have had not one single problem with it? its the best phone ive had admittedly i was a little bit dissapointed but still is a great phone! and i get more signal now then i ever had, i never used to get wifi or a bar of signal in my bedroom now i get 2 bars of wifi and 3 bars of signal! so i cant understand where all this signal loss is coming from? maybe a bad batch? or 2? or 3? or 4?....
Depends entirely on how you hold the phone; the RF antenna design is such that you get a better signal than most phones, but if you hold the phone such that you bridge the 3G and WiFi antennae your hand acts a conduction path which attenuates the signal. It's not a batch issue, it's a design issue. If your normal holding position means you don't bridge the gap, or you use a bumper or case, you'll often get better signal than you would with a 3G or 3GS. If your natural position bridges the gap, prepare for dropped calls and loss of signal.
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i use a case but i had it with out a case for over a week and it had not one problem signal? and i dont no anyone else bar on here that does suffer from the problem?
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So it's looking increasingly likely that Apple will issue a recall on the iPhone 4.
There is going to be a news conference at 6pm that will issue the antenna problems.
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Well.... Note my words above. If it's a free frickin bumper they can think again because the bumper does NOT fix the issue.... :sad1:
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I am more concerned that the "fault" has NOT been fixed by the addition of the £25 bumper! :fighting:
Sure, it improves it but I really have started now to notice the issue, particularly when surfing/ browsing...perhaps the build up of heat in the hand has something to do with making it worse.
Bit sick of the issue now, the forums across the planet are going tonto over this issue, I am sure the yanks will slap some kind of class action on Apple soon.
Could be that the moisture on your skin along with saline solution (sweat) on your hands as they warm up will help increase the conductivity of your hand increasing the bridging effect of your hand. Bear in mind I dont have an iphone 4 but I wouldnt be very happy if I got told to have a bumper round the aerial that materially changed the design and appearance of my device in order for it to no longer have bridging issues.
And I would be suprised if a software tweak could fix the problem, since its a physical issue, maybe apple should release a special glove :laugh:
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Gizmodo is speculating that Apple is doing a "stealth" recall. Some dude apparently had his swapped at an Apple store and the replacement unit appeared to have a slightly matte coating on the antenna.
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Mines dropping signal down to 1 bar lots now no matter how it's held and mine has a bump around it so that is bollox if they think it solved it :stupid:
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There is no way on this Earth Apple will recall that many iPhones
The most they will do is offer compensation or a free bumper.
Personally i haven't had a problem nor can i replicate the problem. As i have now covered it in Carbon Fibre i doubt a bumper will make any difference
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Even if the bump solves it slightly is not really a 'solution' from a company like Apple, plus isnt this just covering the antenna anyway so effectively reducing the signal slightly anyway
I agree on the recall though, fat chance that happening - I dont mind being proved wrong though
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I really think Apple will recall. It doesn't matter how many phones it is, their reputation is worth more than a few million phones.
The free bumper thing is a no-goer for me, it's a total admission of failure, which they're fixing with a botch job.
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I'll happily eat my words if they do but it would cost them billions.
They would have to take everyone's phone off them and then either refund them or give them another phone to tide them over while they fix the problem.
I can't understand how a bumper doesn't fix it as the antenna is now insulated by the rubber so it shouldn't matter how you hold it then :confused: unless some part of the antennas are not covered by the bumper.
I reckon they will provide a software update to fix the Algorithm calculating the Bars to display and then possibly give free or heavily discounted bumpers.
The could always give us the case they used to try and disguise the prototype that got Lost/Stolen :grin: :grin:
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Sky News have been citing that there may be a recall.
I've ordered one and there is around a 3 to 4 week wait - Emergency redesign maybe??
I think if they did a recall it would be in the form of a swapout for a replacement so you wouldn't be without a handset but there maybe a delay while more are manufactured.
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The new firmware in beta shows the new bars, but doesn't cure the problem, no news on if it cures the bluetooth handsfree issues
Why would I want to have such a great looking phone and having to stick on a rubber bumper to keep my signal :sick:, I like my iPhones to be naked
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I still have my doubts there will be a recall. Estimates say it will cost Apple $1.5bn to recall whereas it would cost them $118m to give out a free bumper.
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iPhone 4: Silent Recall
http://gizmodo.com/5587029/iphone-4-silent-recall-some-readers-confirm
Customers who have had their iPhones replaced (for various reasons) notice a slight difference in the material of the antennae and report an improvement in reception.
Though this is all anecdotal.
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It may cost the millions to recall but surely they are loosing out on sales if they dont - I bet quite a few now will hold off until a fix is applied.
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Apple are holding a press conference tomorrow - it is expected that the reason for the conference is to address the iPhone 4 issues.
Wonder what they will have to say!
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1722866/apple-calls-iphone-emergency-press-conference
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This is very funny and most definitely NSFW. :laugh:
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You know, I'm the type of person that researches everything several times before I finally part with my cash but in the iphone 4 instance, I don't care whatever else there is out there, I'm just not interested. Never been like that with anything else but I seriously wouldn't even spend a second considering looking at an alternative phone.
Just please, sort out the s/w bugs, mine shut down yesterday for being too hot when it was stone cold and had only just been picked up??