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Title: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 18, 2010, 12:32:34 pm
Afternoon all.

Thought i'd give the car a good clean this morning and as doing so i found a couple of small areas of rust on the off side drivers wheel arch! Not happy! I haven't had a vw rust before and certainly wont except one rusting now.
What ere my chances of my local vw dealers doing it under the corrosion warranty? The guy i bought it from got a years warranty when he bought it from a vw dealer and that doesn't run out till october but will that still apply to the car now its been passed on to me? Or will they just tell me to do one?
Anyone else had anything like this happen? and if so please share what the out come was with us.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: stealthwolf on July 18, 2010, 02:01:21 pm
As far as I'm aware the pain has 3 years warranty, and there's 12-years corrosion warranty. The first thing to ask is whether the car's been in any accident or had the paintwork repaired at any point? The warranty is valid only on original paintwork!
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 18, 2010, 05:36:52 pm
As far as I'm aware the pain has 3 years warranty, and there's 12-years corrosion warranty. The first thing to ask is whether the car's been in any accident or had the paintwork repaired at any point? The warranty is valid only on original paintwork!

Thanks stealthwolf
As far as i can tell its original paint but i'm the third owner so cant be 100 % sure . Will take it in to my local vw dealer then stamp my feet and hold my breath if they say no  :wink:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 19, 2010, 04:38:30 pm
Gonna take it in to my local vw dealer tomorrow for them to have a look. Just hope they dont arse me around !
If they do might just have to mention this forum and see if that changers thier minds  :wink:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Rich on July 19, 2010, 05:04:48 pm
Gonna take it in to my local vw dealer tomorrow for them to have a look. Just hope they dont arse me around !
If they do might just have to mention this forum and see if that changers thier minds  :wink:

That might have a negative effect lol

They might then think, if we repair it, he'll post up we've repaired.. then we'll have every Tom, Dick and Harry coming up for warranty repairs
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 19, 2010, 05:29:36 pm
Gonna take it in to my local vw dealer tomorrow for them to have a look. Just hope they dont arse me around !
If they do might just have to mention this forum and see if that changers thier minds  :wink:

That might have a negative effect lol

They might then think, if we repair it, he'll post up we've repaired.. then we'll have every Tom, Dick and Harry coming up for warranty repairs
Good point well presented rich. Think i'll just keep my mouth shut and go from there
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: nc35 on July 20, 2010, 07:37:37 am
Yes but warranty repairs is usually a nice little earner for a dealership.
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: bondy on July 20, 2010, 03:15:39 pm
let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 20, 2010, 05:13:37 pm
Well took it to my local vw dealer today and was told i had to see the big boss man as it was warranty work,
He walked to the car with me armed with a camera and note pad and ptg meter.
Now to me you can clearly see rust on the underside lip of the wheel arch and some bubbling, and he said vw probably wouldn't agree the work because it was probably a stone that caused it   :surprised: I pointed out that there was stone chips on the bonnet and they hadn't rusted! Looked at me like i had two heads  
But he woluldn't strap a pair of balls on and authorise the work without sending some pics and a report to mr Volkswagen and his family.
And the only word he mumbled to me was 'dont hold your breath'  :surprised:
Some dealers are total ar*es!

Watch this space.
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: JPC on July 20, 2010, 05:29:08 pm
I had the exact same experience, but with enough complaining aka stating my rights for them to repaint it...they gave in! ;)
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 20, 2010, 08:03:15 pm
So what was your route of attack when the dealer came back and said they wouldn't do it?
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Mako V12V on July 20, 2010, 08:14:31 pm
So what was your route of attack when the dealer came back and said they wouldn't do it?
You're expecting the dealer to get back to you??!! I'm sorry but you'll have to chase them at least 3 times  :mad:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 20, 2010, 08:29:34 pm
So what was your route of attack when the dealer came back and said they wouldn't do it?
You're expecting the dealer to get back to you??!! I'm sorry but you'll have to chase them at least 3 times  :mad:

 :signLOL:    To be honest i did think that today when he said it. I'll keep chasing alright!
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 25, 2010, 08:23:53 am
Nothing much to report really just a small update. Got a  call from another guy from my local vw dealers who is putting the report together to send to Mr Volkswagen and he was very helpful, said that no way was the rust caused by a stone a would put a really good report together and would try to fight my corner, should get back to me tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Russ_leeds on July 25, 2010, 11:20:16 am
good luck mate, i had a small bit of rust on the sill, just under the front wing so no way was it accessable to a stone but they still took pics and checked with pdc. all got sorted in the end but took ages to get a date to book it in
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 26, 2010, 05:28:39 pm
Not happy!!!!  :sad1: The man from vw says no!!! took a call from the boss man at my local vw dealers for him to tell me that they have looked at my claim and basically wont do it under the corrosion warranty as it cant be proven that its a faulty panel !! Now dont ask me how as its clear to anyone without a white stick that it rusting from the inside out!
I got the impression from the dealer be it right or wrong that he couldn't give a toss as i didn't actually buy the car from there! I asked what my options were now and all he could come back with is we'll happily to  give you a quote for the works!  :surprised: I said i dont think so do you? and said its not the end of this!! But really dont know where to go from here, i feel i've been let down by volkswagen after nearly 20 years of vw ownership off and on,
 and this is the first warranty claim i've asked for. I'm up a bit of a dead end now and could really do with some pointers on my next move please guys ? As i dont really want to let this drop.

All advice will be taken on board  :happy2:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Mako V12V on July 26, 2010, 06:45:33 pm
You'll probably have to put ur grievances and a history of ur vw ownership in writing to vw customer services telling them how shoddy their customer care is. Mention trading standards? Mention watchdog? do what you have to do to turn them round to your way of thinking. There is no level too low you can now stoop to get this resolved. Good luck!
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 26, 2010, 07:10:59 pm
Yes that was going to be my next plan of action to pen a letter to vw in milton keynes and lay in on thick, really my only option left now.
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Nasir on July 26, 2010, 07:17:30 pm
i feel i've been let down by volkswagen after nearly 20 years of vw ownership off and on,
 and this is the first warranty claim i've asked for.


Mention this as companies like VW, like loyalty and it's a large amount of their customer base. Say your next car was going to be a VW but you're not sure now.
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Lyons on July 27, 2010, 07:25:40 am
Im in the middle of the same thing, i had rust on my offside rear arch and after the assessor accusing the car of being painted, VW agreed to do it.

I picked the car up last night and I could have done a better job of finishing it with an aerosol....
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: G4V VW on July 27, 2010, 07:49:27 pm
I had a problem with corrosion on mine, where the wing meets the sill. The corrosion was on the tops of the sill. VW said no from a picture...err i dont think so.
I rang VW customer care and said i want a paint accessor to come out and look, otherwise i would be taking it to other "paint experts" for there opinion.

They got back to me and agreed to carry the work out...you just gotta be firm but not over the top cos nobody likes that.

I had the same prob as Lyons though... although the paint work on mine was brilliant, shame it didnt last more than 2 weeks before peeling off. 5 times in total they had my car back. They blamed it on the primer and said they had to use a different make in the end.

I only took it back to the same VW bodyshop because they begged me to (the dealer).

Anyway,  ring VW customer care and let them know pal, im sure they will sort it, just keep at them  :happy2:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on July 27, 2010, 09:10:35 pm
Thanks for that buddy. I'm certainly not going to let it drop, i've written a letter yesterday expressing my views on the situation so now gotta wait to see if they even reply. If it comes to it i'll sit outside my local dealers with a banner 'vw's rust dont buy one' might get some kind of reaction. Really hope it doesn't come to that
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on August 07, 2010, 11:44:09 am
Update. Had a call from Vw customer service yesterday just to say they had recieved my letter, and a complaints manager would call me within the next 48 / 72 hrs to talk about my problem. We'll see what happens next  :smiley:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: CAPTAIN BRITAIN on August 07, 2010, 11:51:38 am
So what was your route of attack when the dealer came back and said they wouldn't do it?
You're expecting the dealer to get back to you??!! I'm sorry but you'll have to chase them at least 3 times  :mad:
Wow, only 3 times? which dealer is this? better than my local one  :laugh:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: Tuffy on August 16, 2010, 09:22:43 pm
UPDATE. Had a phone call from a complaints manager at vw customer service today to talk about my case. They have offerd me the chance of an independent paint inspection which i must pay for and if he finds that vw are at fault and it is a warranty claim vw will then carry out the work and refund what i've paid the inspector. If found that vw are not to blame for the corrosion problem then i'm left with the bill which could be up to £195 and still a rusty wing. Think i'm going to take that chance as i've come this far!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: G4V VW on August 16, 2010, 10:14:08 pm
UPDATE. Had a phone call from a complaints manager at vw customer service today to talk about my case. They have offerd me the chance of an independent paint inspection which i must pay for and if he finds that vw are at fault and it is a warranty claim vw will then carry out the work and refund what i've paid the inspector. If found that vw are not to blame for the corrosion problem then i'm left with the bill which could be up to £195 and still a rusty wing. Think i'm going to take that chance as i've come this far!  :happy2:

Good on ya pal..i'd do the same  :happy2:
Title: Re: Rust!!!!!
Post by: bodger00 on August 17, 2010, 08:03:51 pm
Wonder how much the bill would be to repaint the wing and (possibly a new wing)?

£400?

Come on VW is it really worth the time spent trying to get out of this?