MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: WYTHIT on July 27, 2010, 06:11:55 pm
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Ive got my golf gti in awesome on friday for a service and oem uprated dv change ive took advantage of the free 6 hour remap i cant wait :driver:
What power gain will i be getting? my car is a bog standard 2 litre turbo
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Don't say bog standard 2.0 turbo, one of the best engines in the world :signLOL:
If it's pre 2006 (AXX engine) then it puts out 200 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
If it's post 2006 (BWA engine) then it apparently puts out 214 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
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Don't say bog standard 2.0 turbo, one of the best engines in the world :signLOL:
If it's pre 2006 (AXX engine) then it puts out 200 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
If it's post 2006 (BWA engine) then it apparently puts out 214 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
I got a revo 5hr free trial last year and it was awesome :driver:, been dying to get a remap since! Realisticly you will gain 30-40bhp with any supporting mods, well that's what the guy told me when I got it done.
Cheers
Max
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Sorry to change the subject a little, my car is an
06 plate so which engine
Have I got? Thanks.
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Most likely BWA, look at the code stickers in the boot or on the drivers door area. Or you can run your numberplate on eurocarparts.com and it will tell you. :happy2:
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Nice one thanks.
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Don't say bog standard 2.0 turbo, one of the best engines in the world :signLOL:
If it's pre 2006 (AXX engine) then it puts out 200 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
If it's post 2006 (BWA engine) then it apparently puts out 214 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
Is this true? :surprised:
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Don't say bog standard 2.0 turbo, one of the best engines in the world :signLOL:
If it's pre 2006 (AXX engine) then it puts out 200 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
If it's post 2006 (BWA engine) then it apparently puts out 214 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
Is this true? :surprised:
Dont think so. It was only the new Mk6 that got the new engine. Also the folks in USA got it in their Mk 5. :happy2:
And i am even more sure that you wont get 55BHP extra out of a stage 1 map. :laugh:
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Don't say bog standard 2.0 turbo, one of the best engines in the world :signLOL:
If it's pre 2006 (AXX engine) then it puts out 200 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
If it's post 2006 (BWA engine) then it apparently puts out 214 BHP, this goes to 255 BHP
Is this true? :surprised:
Dont think so. It was only the new Mk6 that got the new engine. Also the folks in USA got it in their Mk 5. :happy2:
And i am even more sure that you wont get 55BHP extra out of a stage 1 map. :laugh:
http://revotechnik.com/products/softwareProduct.aspx?pvID=888
That's what the revo website says, and the engine did change in 2006 and it apparently produces around 214 BHP. It's obviously quoted as 200 BHP but we all know VW play safe with the BHP figures. I'm going to find the thread I read this up on.
Edited as I just read up on it a bit more :ashamed:
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I hope this is true as I've just checked and I've got the bwa engine! 14bhp better off than I thought. Good times! Seriously though, has anyone drove the aax and bwa engine and noticed any difference??
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AFAIK the change was relatively small for emission purposes - the BWA engine complies with a higher euro emmisions standard that the AXX. I've read the AXX was the last of the true 'lean burn' FSI engines. Whatever that means ...
I suspect the some AXX's rolled off the line with more than the quoted BHP as well as some of BWA's.
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I was under the impression it was the other way round. The AXX engines were less "restricted" by emission controls.
But yes it true the AXX is the last of the lean burn. Basically putting less fuel into the engine when it doesn't need it. Cruising at legal motorway speeds for example.
The the bean counters also had an input. Early GTI were sold with a huge reduced margin, some even say at a loss!!!
So wouldn't be surprised if cheaper alternate components were used too in the later 06MY.
Later cars lost 10 speaker stereo, Blue Tint Windows, Naked Roof (unless SatNav fitted) rear window seals (3DR), S3 lower arms (Before they were fitted to the Audi S3) plus some little touches like the alu trim to the ash tray.
Else the engines are physically pretty much identical. All producing a "claimed" 200PS ~ 197BHP.
Hopefully someone more knowelgeable can correct or shed more light on this.
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all mk5 ko3 gti's are 200bhp. mk6 is 210 i think. :smiley:
and theres loads of differences between the new model engins and the older 55 05 plate cars, the older ones also came with s3 lower arms.
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You wont ever get 255bhp from a simple Stage 1 remap.
I dont care what Revo say on their website, its all a load of bollocks. You will be looking at about 240bhp with just the remap.
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AlanD! welcome to the forum! :grin: :grin:
:happy2:
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On the MkV the BWA engines were introduced partly to reflect poorer quality petrol in some export countries.
Lower compression, different piston part nos to AXX...
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Also, depending what you believe, the AXX uses forged piston rings, whereas the later models didn't.
Some say that makes the AXX worse, others say it makes it better.
Then you have the cam lobe wear issue, again, some say the AXX didn't suffer with this issue, only the 2006+ models, others will say all engine codes were affected.
Anyway, what nobody has said yet... Once you get the 5-6 hour remap, good luck, as you'll be going back to buy the full version VERY soon after! :D
Im resisting a trial map for now for that very reason ;)
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:signLOL:
I have resisted since last Sept. Don't think I can for much longer.
Everyone said this would happen.
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Be aware though that once you have the trail map installed, it overwrites the standard ecu code and the only way to get it back is to get VW to reflash it.
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Be aware though that once you have the trail map installed, it overwrites the standard ecu code and the only way to get it back is to get VW to reflash it.
will it cause any problems to my car once the map has finished?
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I had the 6 huor map put on my car today at awesome it is awesome :drool:The acceliration is a lot better it makes it drive like a new car :smiley:
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Be aware though that once you have the trail map installed, it overwrites the standard ecu code and the only way to get it back is to get VW to reflash it.
will it cause any problems to my car once the map has finished?
Possibly if you have a warrenty claim.
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AlanD! welcome to the forum! :grin: :grin:
:happy2:
haha ! I do lurk around here now and again :smiley:
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Also, depending what you believe, the AXX uses forged piston rings, whereas the later models didn't.
Some say that makes the AXX worse, others say it makes it better.
Then you have the cam lobe wear issue, again, some say the AXX didn't suffer with this issue, only the 2006+ models, others will say all engine codes were affected.
My AXX has had 103,000 miles so far on the original cam follower... got it checked at 98k and was told it looked like new. Was quite pleasantly surprised.
There seem to be a few areas where early-model GTIs have better quality of build/components over later models.
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There seem to be a few areas where early-model GTIs have better quality of build/components over later models.
:P
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There seem to be a few areas where early-model GTIs have better quality of build/components over later models.
:P
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