MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: Mandy on July 29, 2010, 05:08:36 pm
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I currently have the Bluefin handset (kept from my previous golf) and am thinking of a stage 1 remap on the eddy at some point, probably when the warranty expires (or sooner if I get the urge!).
It's a toss up between Bluefin and Revo at the moment, I've had the Bluefin before so want to try Revo.
Am I right in saying you get slightly more out of the Revo, I know people say it's more torquier and aggressive but I think that's how I like it.
What is the idea with the SPS switch, does it allow you to 'adjust' the map?
I also like the fact that Revo is more 'custom' to the individual car, where as Bluefin isn't really.
Has anyone had experience of both maps on an ed30 and any views on them?
Should I just pay £200 to reset the Bluefin, or is it worth spending the extra money for the Revo?? Any thoughts??
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Both have their pro's and cons but as you have the Bluefin handset I would say use it.
If it is less than 12 months then I believe they reset for free but either way you will get a bargain. :happy2:
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Both have their pro's and cons but as you have the Bluefin handset I would say use it.
If it is less than 12 months then I believe they reset for free but either way you will get a bargain. :happy2:
If they'd reset it for free then it would def have to be the Bluefin, but unfortunately I've had it a while. :sad1:
Thanks for your view Hedge, it's the same as what Saint Steve keeps telling me, just always thought he was being biased though! :laugh:
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There are quite a few peeps here who have moved from Bluefin to Revo and report being particularly pleased with the difference.
If you are planning future hardware mods, the Revo allows a far more reliable method of fine-tuning the settings.
You might like to phone JKM - 0239 263 9933 - and ask Keith his private opinion as they sell both. I don't know which he'd recommend but he knows his onions.
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if your hand set is under 12 months old you have the option to reset it for free and then sell it
i sold my bluefin handset to saint steve as had a similar dilema in the end sold it and went revo on the pirelli
pros and cons to both though, both proven products
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I've recently moved from Bluefin to REVO and the car does feel stronger than it did before, but to be honest I've not been blown away so far!
Also your decision will be effected by how far you plan to mod, IMO if you are just planning ST1-2 with the associated mods then stick with what you have, if you plan to go further then the flexability of SPS may be better for the mods required to go ST2+, although bear in mind this route will set you back best part of £700 with the switch.
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Revo do the free trial so might be worth giving that a go and see how you get on with it! Might give you a helping hand :)
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Both have their pro's and cons but as you have the Bluefin handset I would say use it.
If it is less than 12 months then I believe they reset for free but either way you will get a bargain. :happy2:
If they'd reset it for free then it would def have to be the Bluefin, but unfortunately I've had it a while. :sad1:
Thanks for your view Hedge, it's the same as what Saint Steve keeps telling me, just always thought he was being biased though! :laugh:
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Stick with what you have Mandy, penny will drop eventually :signLOL:
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The REVO free trial isn't ideal and it will leave the software on your car. I think the BF option is the most cos effective but as you say the REVO will give you more options.
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@ Mandy:
I dunno the costs but you don't have to buy the user-settable Revo switch (or do Revo only have one switch now?) which is more expensive. You can smile sweetly at male friends and JKM down the road, and they'll alter settings on VCDS for you.
On the otherhand if you've already got Bluefin it's swings and roundabouts and are the extra costs of changing worth it.
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Both have their pro's and cons but as you have the Bluefin handset I would say use it.
If it is less than 12 months then I believe they reset for free but either way you will get a bargain. :happy2:
If they'd reset it for free then it would def have to be the Bluefin, but unfortunately I've had it a while. :sad1:
Thanks for your view Hedge, it's the same as what Saint Steve keeps telling me, just always thought he was being biased though! :laugh:
its only about £190 to get new map put on it
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@ Mandy:
Basically, all those who are satisfied with Bluefin will recommend it from their own good experiences. As will Revo users do exactly the same.
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@ Mandy:
Basically, all those who are satisfied with Bluefin will recommend it from their own good experiences. As will Revo users do exactly the same.
Well as I've recently switched between the two I thought my answer was as middle of the road and honest as possible as I have no 'loyalties' with either supplier!
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from what i have read and heard people say is the stage 1 + 2 on bluefin was great it was only when they went to stage 2+ that they decided to get revo.
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@ Mandy:
Basically, all those who are satisfied with Bluefin will recommend it from their own good experiences. As will Revo users do exactly the same.
Well as I've recently switched between the two I thought my answer was as middle of the road and honest as possible as I have no 'loyalties' with either supplier!
....Absolutely! Having experienced both I think your answer was the most valid and helpful of all, so far :happy2:
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from what i have read and heard people say is the stage 1 + 2 on bluefin was great it was only when they went to stage 2+ that they decided to get revo.
....Another good reason to think what future modding plans might be. :happy2:
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if your only going stage 1/2 and are not figure chasing then i say bluefin, it still a mighty quick ar with it.
If you plan on going crazy and want the most out of it, you need revo, or try another tuner such as APR Jabbasport or shark performance. iirc all are cheaper than revo. id be highly tempted with a jabba custom map.
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You can smile sweetly at male friends and JKM down the road, and they'll alter settings on VCDS for you.
Not sure how you can change Revo settings with VCDS but I'm all ears. :smiley:
As for volunteering JKM's time just be aware that they are quite within their right to charge for it. :smiley:
I say stick with what you have unless you plan to mod the hell out of it. Stage 1 is good and for the cost of an exhaust Stage 2 is even better :evilgrin:
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You can smile sweetly at male friends and JKM down the road, and they'll alter settings on VCDS for you.
Not sure how you can change Revo settings with VCDS but I'm all ears. :smiley:
As for volunteering JKM's time just be aware that they are quite within their right to charge for it. :smiley:
....I forgot that the friend who alters mine (when I'm not at JKM) is a Revo agent and does it for free. Possibly because I introduced him to the job.
I didn't mean to suggest that JKM would do it for free. It obviously depends what other work is being done.
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From what i can gather , Mandy is not planning going all balls out stage 2+at 1st.
Stage 1 or stage 2 is she ever decides to get a milltek, which i keep telling her to get 1st :laugh:
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i have been driving a stage 2 superchips car ie vwr red golf for 3 weeks and the map is complete at utter sh*te i would want my money back even vwr are not happy with the power as its just odd :signLOL:
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Wow, thanks for all your advice everyone!
I can understand that each map has their own pros and cons etc...
Judging by the comments, sounds like Bluefin will be fine for stage 1, but may need Revo or something for stage 2/ 2+.
I guess the deciding factor would be down to how much I plan to mod the car in future. :evilgrin:
I'd love to say I'll go stage one and stick with it, but you never know do you?? (Why did I join this forum!) :signLOL:
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Oh, it really doesn't help when 'people' (Mafri) bang on about their amazing Revo remap they've just recently had!! :P
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Who, me? Are you trying to suggest that I'm a corrupting influence?!?!? :evilgrin:
I've got no basis of comparison vs Bluefin, but I've got to say that Revo has completely surpassed my expectations. As an ex A3 diesel driver, I have been so pleased that Revo has given me sooooooo much torque compared with stock - it pull really well from the bottom end, seems a lot looser and responsive, and fits really well with my driving style. You don't need to rev the nuts off the car to make progress very (very!) quickly.
At stage 1, I think it's amazing. Of course, how long the car stays at stage 1 is another question........ :drool:
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mandy i found the stage 1 and 2 maps from superchips very good .....i just didnt like the stage 2 plus ....
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if your only going stage 1/2 and are not figure chasing then i say bluefin, it still a mighty quick ar with it.
If you plan on going crazy and want the most out of it, you need revo, or try another tuner such as APR Jabbasport or shark performance. iirc all are cheaper than revo. id be highly tempted with a jabba custom map.
Will I be going 'crazy'?.... Hmmm..... Good question........
From what i can gather , Mandy is not planning going all balls out stage 2+at 1st.
Stage 1 or stage 2 is she ever decides to get a milltek, which i keep telling her to get 1st :laugh:
I've got no immediate plans for a Milltek at the mo, standard one is fine and sounds luurvely IMO.... :smiley:
i have been driving a stage 2 superchips car ie vwr red golf for 3 weeks and the map is complete at utter sh*te i would want my money back even vwr are not happy with the power as its just odd :signLOL:
:signLOL: At least your honest!
:surprised: What was so bad about it??
Who, me? Are you trying to suggest that I'm a corrupting influence?!?!? :evilgrin:
I've got no basis of comparison vs Bluefin, but I've got to say that Revo has completely surpassed my expectations. As an ex A3 diesel driver, I have been so pleased that Revo has given me sooooooo much torque compared with stock - it pull really well from the bottom end, seems a lot looser and responsive, and fits really well with my driving style. You don't need to rev the nuts off the car to make progress very (very!) quickly.
At stage 1, I think it's amazing. Of course, how long the car stays at stage 1 is another question........ :drool:
^^^ Yes, YOU are the bad influence... (I need to put the blame on someone!) :signLOL:
I suppose I could just try the Bluefin, then switch to Revo if I decided to tinker with anything else on the car.
Would only cost me £200 for Bluefin and significantly more for Revo, unless if any offers pop up from Revo then I could easily be swayed...
Should I be changing/upgrading anything else on the car for stage 1 or will the standard car handle it pretty well? Any recommendations?? :smiley:
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It's a slippery slope, Mandy!
Once a car is remapped with that extra oomph you start to use the added performance and realise that better brakes (better pedal response and more confident stopping power) and suspension (anti-roll bars in particular) would better compliment your remap. Also, a stock exhaust isn't going to release the full potential of the remap you've paid for. Need I go on?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FDetailing%2FStickers%2Fslippery_slope.jpg&hash=c2fc1aa4f02369ce0b0399bc6f87d5bc57a44cb9)
I know a young lady who loves her modified Mini (original) and her new boyfriend got into trouble when he bought her something girlie for her birthday. At Christmas he bought her a performance exhaust! Of course now he's very much still in favour.
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My mate who works for VW said he knows a bloke who can do a mobile Revo remap for £350.
Is this possible? Does it sound dodgy?
Seems like a good price but I'm not convinced...
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sounds dodgy to me. REVO have approved dealers of which i believe all would have dyno facilities to set the car correctly
i wouldnt go ahead until i spoke to revo HQ first to confirm tht the map is legitimate
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Thanks Sy. :happy2:
Think I'll give it a miss, I've never been sure about any kind of 'mobile remap'.
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I think the guy who does 'mobile ones' used to have South Coast Wheels and now has a parts business of which the name escapes me but you may have seen his van on the M27.
Tims VW or something I think.
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Tims Vw?....
Rings a bell, was it in Paulsgrove? Think it has shutdown now though....
I can't remember the guy's name that does the mobile remaps but I know he's pretty local.
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I think the guy who does 'mobile ones' used to have South Coast Wheels and now has a parts business of which the name escapes me but you may have seen his van on the M27.
Tims VW or something I think.
Thats the Guy that cocked my mate Spencer, with his Black Ed30 that you fixed his Badly setup map settings Stu if you recall :signLOL:
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Stay standard. The Ed 30 as standard is just fine.
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Stay standard. The Ed 30 as standard is just fine.
^^^^ Saint Steve, you've changed your forum name to "stokeballoon" I see. :evilgrin:
But, joking apart, Quality Dave is right: The standard Ed30 is very fine and the modding slope is very slippery (ask Saint Steve). It's very difficult stopping one thing from leading to another (I'm not talking about sex here).
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Wow, thanks for all your advice everyone!
I can understand that each map has their own pros and cons etc...
Judging by the comments, sounds like Bluefin will be fine for stage 1, but may need Revo or something for stage 2/ 2+.
I guess the deciding factor would be down to how much I plan to mod the car in future. :evilgrin:
I'd love to say I'll go stage one and stick with it, but you never know do you?? (Why did I join this forum!) :signLOL:
From reading this i'd say just go Revo, I thought i'd be happy with stage 1 and bf was great at that, but you just get dragged in and will end up with it all,don't end up paying twice like I did :stupid:
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Stay standard. The Ed 30 as standard is just fine.
^^^^ Saint Steve, you've changed your forum name to "stokeballoon" I see. :evilgrin:
But, joking apart, Quality Dave is right: The standard Ed30 is very fine and the modding slope is very slippery (ask Saint Steve). It's very difficult stopping one thing from leading to another (I'm not talking about sex here).
He is right, but asthetic mods soon painfully went to engine mods.
Im still sat on my hands refusing to go no further then stage 2. :grin:
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Stay standard. The Ed 30 as standard is just fine.
Yes you're right, the car is fine as it is but I've just got the urge for something more, I'm hoping a remap will make the power delivery smoother too.
Wow, thanks for all your advice everyone!
I can understand that each map has their own pros and cons etc...
Judging by the comments, sounds like Bluefin will be fine for stage 1, but may need Revo or something for stage 2/ 2+.
I guess the deciding factor would be down to how much I plan to mod the car in future. :evilgrin:
I'd love to say I'll go stage one and stick with it, but you never know do you?? (Why did I join this forum!) :signLOL:
From reading this i'd say just go Revo, I thought i'd be happy with stage 1 and bf was great at that, but you just get dragged in and will end up with it all,don't end up paying twice like I did :stupid:
That's what I keep thinking, if I stuck with Bluefin I could end up paying twice, maybe...
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i did exactly that. i then trialed a revo car and a shark performance car and ended up with shark performance. i personnaly found very little difference between the two, the shark was slightly easier to put the power down and was cheaper so thast who i chose. would have been equally happy with revo though :happy2:
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No you need to map it Mandy! :evilgrin:
Been driving a standard Leon Cupra (240bhp) recently and although quick just doesn't have the shove and flexibility of a mapped car IMO! :happy2:
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I think she needs pinning down Nath :laugh:
Anyone else fancy helping :signLOL:
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No you need to map it Mandy! :evilgrin:
Been driving a standard Leon Cupra (240bhp) recently and although quick just doesn't have the shove and flexibility of a mapped car IMO! :happy2:
Thanks for the encouragement Nathan! It's just what I need! :laugh: :happy2: :pomppomp:
(That Cupra looks mint btw :happy2:)
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Stay standard. The Ed 30 as standard is just fine.
yes but some of us dont do just fine :P
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I too am going to go with the Revo, at some point anyway, Just getting my car ready for it, sorting out the intake, and then getting the exhaust and downpipe sorted, That should take me a few months,
Do keep a look out at the shows, as heard Revo are doing a similar offer at ED38 as they did at Inters which I heard was very good.
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No you need to map it Mandy! :evilgrin:
Been driving a standard Leon Cupra (240bhp) recently and although quick just doesn't have the shove and flexibility of a mapped car IMO! :happy2:
Thanks for the encouragement Nathan! It's just what I need! :laugh: :happy2: :pomppomp:
(That Cupra looks mint btw :happy2:)
going from stage 3, down to 2, then down to 1 and finally stock, i can confirm 100% that std cars have absolutely no urgency at all. so much so that i kpt thinking the car wasnt right and hat it should surely pull slightly better
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Right, so I think I might give the Bluefin a try (got my sensible head on :smiley:)...
I know with Revo, they have the stage 1 map, then they also have the stage 1 DSG map to compliment it...
What is the equivalent on a Bluefin, or isn't there one?
TIA. :smiley:
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There isn't one I am afraid - the only DSG remaps available in the UK IIRC are GIAC and Revo. Do question your reasoning behind wanting/needing a DSG remap. There are other mods that would be a higher priority for me than the DSG remap. HTH
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As Dom says really. :happy2:
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Right, so I think I might give the Bluefin a try (got my sensible head on :smiley:)...
I know with Revo, they have the stage 1 map, then they also have the stage 1 DSG map to compliment it...
What is the equivalent on a Bluefin, or isn't there one?
TIA. :smiley:
I got the bluefin done as I got it cheap. but its got me thinking that I should have paid the extra for revo...
It is a vast improvement over stock, but I'm just going to stick with it until next year and get revo done at gti international and save a few quid. I've got no plans for HPFP and exhaust until next year anyway so made sense to me, and I didnt want to pay the extra £500 to get revo done this year( got a big visa bill to pay off first!)
I spoke to kev at revo, and he said they were going to edition 30, so you might get some discount there
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Thanks for your input(s) :happy2: :pomppomp:
The main reason I said I'm going to go with Bluefin is because it'll only cost me about £200, but like you mention, Heavyd, you said you should've put in the extra for Revo. I'm wondering if I'd think that too once I had Bluefin...
And now that you mentioned about possible discount on Revo... that's just teasing... :grin:
Don't suppose you know what sort of discount they'll be offering? :smiley: :party:
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Well from my own point of view, I had it in my head from the start I was going to get revo, but I think I only paid £270 ish for the bluefin, so seemed a good deal, as I couldnt afford the extra £500 for Revo this year!!!!!!!!!
If you arent planning on getting anything apart from stage 1, maybe stage 2, then save your money and stay with the bluefin, otherwise, sell the bluefin, make £60, and put it towards revo :wink:
From what I've read, no-one has complained about revo, but have done with bluefin.
It does make a big difference with just the bluefin, I'm sure you'll be happy with it.
On the other hand, if you go through JKM rolling road results on their website, some revo dont do very well on their dyno, and come out with less than the bluefins....................
Choice is yours at the end of the day, but I think it worked out pricewise the same for me getting the bluefin and going to inters next year, as it would have driving 10 miles down the road and getting revo at my local dealer so I was told.
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As said before, Revo has the important bonus of being able to fine tune T/B/F settings and this is extremely useful in adjusting to various hardware mods - Each car is individual. I'm not inclined to trust Bluefin's internet route for map revisions.. Too many bad stories. But, available money plays a part.
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Choice is yours at the end of the day, but I think it worked out pricewise the same for me getting the bluefin and going to inters next year, as it would have driving 10 miles down the road and getting revo at my local dealer so I was told.
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At least you'd have experienced both!
It's a shame that Inters is ages away... :sad1:
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As said before, Revo has the important bonus of being able to fine tune T/B/F settings and this is extremely useful in adjusting to various hardware mods - Each car is individual. I'm not inclined to trust Bluefin's internet route for map revisions.. Too many bad stories. But, available money plays a part.
Thanks Robin, I'm not totally convinced with the 'generic' map idea either, I believe all cars are slightly different in their own way so should be treated individually, I have read one or two bad stories too... :scared:
Looks like we're back to square one on this...
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If you do go for bluefin, make sure you ring them up before you upload your map, and tell them your car is DSG. Their system automatically selects the manual map, and thats what You'll be sent! the bloke even said that when I rang up.
As far as generic maps are concerned, your cars ECU will change the timing itself if its too advanced or retarded. Bluefin runs less boost than Revo, so you wont have any worries of to much boost, and as far as hardware mods, they do the stage 2 if you put an exhaust on anyway for an extra £50.
Theres yet another spanner in the works for you :P
I'll probably be going to the nevw show this weekend and get it on the rolling road. If the power figures are decent I wont be getting revo done, I'll report back with the numbers :happy2:
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I'll probably be going to the nevw show this weekend and get it on the rolling road. If the power figures are decent I wont be getting revo done, I'll report back with the numbers :happy2:
....It's not all about bhp numbers! :fighting: What's more important are the shapes of the dyno plot curves and your individual car's driveability.
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Thanks Heavyd. :smiley:
I have just been looking on the Bluefin website and it says this:
"Following further file development we no longer need to differentiate between DSG and Manual Models with our software. (12/2008)"
So does that mean they now use the same map for both manual and DSG? :confused:
I know Robin said it's not all about the figures but it will be interesting to see your results anyway! :happy2:
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Ive got bluefin and have no issues with the software at all. Car is basically factory smooth round town but when you plant it it pulls like a train.
Only issue ive had was a bit of clutch slip however ive managed to adapt to drive round the slip.
Havent used the REVO for comparison tho im afraid
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Thanks Heavyd. :smiley:
I have just been looking on the Bluefin website and it says this:
"Following further file development we no longer need to differentiate between DSG and Manual Models with our software. (12/2008)"
So does that mean they now use the same map for both manual and DSG? :confused:
I know Robin said it's not all about the figures but it will be interesting to see your results anyway! :happy2:
They used to run a torque limited version for DSG which they don't do now.
Trust me when I say you can't run a manual map on a DSG car :wink:
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Thanks Heavyd. :smiley:
I have just been looking on the Bluefin website and it says this:
"Following further file development we no longer need to differentiate between DSG and Manual Models with our software. (12/2008)"
So does that mean they now use the same map for both manual and DSG? :confused:
I know Robin said it's not all about the figures but it will be interesting to see your results anyway! :happy2:
I phoned them up after I emailed the map to them, he said ignore the first text message as it will be a manual map, wait until I get the second email before I download the map off them, as it will be for a dsg? I read someone else had problems as they had given him a manual map for his dsg car
I'll probably be going to the nevw show this weekend and get it on the rolling road. If the power figures are decent I wont be getting revo done, I'll report back with the numbers :happy2:
....It's not all about bhp numbers! :fighting: What's more important are the shapes of the dyno plot curves and your individual car's driveability.
If the car only makes 260bhp or less on the dyno, I would prefer to be getting around 300bhp with revo!
Yes theres nothing wrong with the driveability, it just dawdles about until you plant your foot, and then it just takes off, with the traction control light flashing and the wheels spinning :grin:
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Yes theres nothing wrong with the driveability, it just dawdles about until you plant your foot, and then it just takes off, with the traction control light flashing and the wheels spinning :grin:
....Which means that either you can't drive properly because you don't know how to control your right foot to progressively modulate the throttle, or that power and traction is lost and wasted in wheelspin due to the map :stupid:
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Yes theres nothing wrong with the driveability, it just dawdles about until you plant your foot, and then it just takes off, with the traction control light flashing and the wheels spinning :grin:
....Which means that either you can't drive properly because you don't know how to control your right foot to progressively modulate the throttle, or that power and traction is lost and wasted in wheelspin due to the map :stupid:
:congrats:
no arbs, no WALK kit, rubbish tyres, OEM suspension and engine mounts etc, it i also depends which footwear I have on, my steel toe cap workboots are very heavy, :signLOL:
Theres nothing the matter with the map, its quite a progressive map, unlike Revo maps, which just are notably more aggressive, and come in with heaps of torque lower down the rev range to most maps :stupid:
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As I'm still pretty much undecided, I think I might just put the remap idea on hold for now... and think about getting a Milltek sorted first... :grin:
Now the dilemma of getting res or non res... :laugh:
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I'm going to go for a blueflame...post on the other section made my mind up!
http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/?action=view¤t=ed30tunnel.mp4
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Lol, that's a good choice too! I'm going to go for Milltek though I think...
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I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
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ahhhh man this is how im stuck between exhaust's specialy after hearing neo's apr 1
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Yep, I would have gone for a milltek again, but blueflame full systems go for £810 with p&p. big difference to over £1100 and £1400 for apr.......................
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I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
I want an exhaust thats sounds nice without being overly loud, that wouldn't be very lady-like would it, lol! :smiley:
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I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
I want an exhaust thats sounds nice without being overly loud, that wouldn't be very lady-like would it, lol! :smiley:
I got a very odd look from the wife when I went through a long tunnel on the m4 just outside of Newport on the way here, windows went down on all 4 doors to have a good listen :signLOL: :ashamed:
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I got a very odd look from the wife when I went through a long tunnel on the m4 just outside of Newport on the way here, windows went down on all 4 doors to have a good listen :signLOL: :ashamed:
....Having met your lovely wife, I can imagine the look on her face but there will have also been a hint of a grin of amusement about you... Thinking what a little boy you still are. Long may you stay so!
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I'm going to go for a blueflame...post on the other section made my mind up!
http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/?action=view¤t=ed30tunnel.mp4
glad i could help :happy2: and the exhaust is only that loud when booting it :driver: as it just gurgles and pops in the background most of the time :laugh:
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I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
I want an exhaust thats sounds nice without being overly loud, that wouldn't be very lady-like would it, lol! :smiley:
....Because ladies don't ever fart? :evilgrin: [so they insist on telling me]
Your stated want does strongly suggest a Milltek. If you had posted you liked louder zorsts I would have suggested either Blueflame or APR (slightly harsher). Millteks are defined by a more sophisticated (you better put on your black dress and jewellery) sound. Check out our saintly fwend Steve's Milly. Sound is all very subjective and we each hear things slightly differently - It's just our brain focussing on details.
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I'm not suggesting that the Blueflame is too loud but that, as Mat says, it generally gurgles and pops more than a Milly. Ladies don't belch either [though I've known a beauty who did]
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I'd just heard that Millteks are boomy on the mk5s thats all. My last car droned at 70-80mph with a resonated milltek, and it drove me up the wall, couldnt even have a conversation in the car at that speed. It was fitted at the milltek factory aswell, so wasnt down to poor fitment, Revolution in newcastle had made that much of a mess at fitting it, they had to put a new exhaust on for me, good customer care though :happy2:
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I'd just heard that Millteks are boomy on the mk5s thats all. My last car droned at 70-80mph with a resonated milltek, and it drove me up the wall, couldnt even have a conversation in the car at that speed. It was fitted at the milltek factory aswell, so wasnt down to poor fitment, Revolution in newcastle had made that much of a mess at fitting it, they had to put a new exhaust on for me, good customer care though :happy2:
....AFAIK Milltek have solved these earlier problems. I've had various Milltek systems (testing) on my Mk5 GTI and they have got better and better.
Yep, Keith at Revolution (Gateshead) is excellent at customer service and aftercare :happy2:
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Milltek themselves couldnt believe how badly it had been fitted, the fitter at milltek put the car on the ramp, and could actually spin the exhaust, wasnt even tight. The fitter at revolution had cracked the welds on the backbox when he had been trying to hammer it on. It was milltek who replaced the system. I would go to revoltion ever again!
considering gun gum isnt supposed to be used on stainless steel exhaust, they seemed to use plenty!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2FDSC00207.jpg&hash=338707e6eac28994f7a8abad10c39df2d3d3db01)
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wow thats bad as you could have fitted it better yourself
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Shocking :surprised:
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:surprised: Looks a right mess!
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Yep i can tell! thats a Milltek alright, i can spot them a mile off. :grin:
Only kiddin. I think Robin has it pretty much spot on
I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
I want an exhaust thats sounds nice without being overly loud, that wouldn't be very lady-like would it, lol! :smiley:
....Because Millteks sound like a ladies fart? :evilgrin: [so they insist on telling me]
Your stated want does strongly suggest a Milltek. If you had posted you liked louder zorsts I would have suggested either Blueflame or APR (slightly harsher). Millteks are defined by a more sophisticated (you better put on your black dress and jewellery) sound. Check out our saintly fwend Steve's Milly. Sound is all very subjective and we each hear things slightly differently - It's just our brain focussing on details.
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I'm not suggesting that the Blueflame is too loud but that, as Mat says, it generally gurgles and pops more than a Milly. Ladies don't belch either [though I've known a beauty who did]
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Can't believe you lot are comparing the sound of exhausts to farts (hate that word!) :stupid:
:signLOL:
Might do what Robin said and check out Steve's pipes...
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Jeeze! That zorst job by Revolution is disgusting! Am glad I've only ever used them for supply (OZ wheels and Tyresure monitor).
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:surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
I will never use them then
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Just to make sure we're discussing the same Revolution company.. The one in Gateshead?
This one?: http://revolution.alloysuk.com/
I wouldn't want to dis the wrong company when asked.
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Yes, the very one, near the metrocentre
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Might do what Robin said and check out Steve's pipes...
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I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
Is yours non-res? Are there tunnels near JKM? Will you take me for a spin on the 16th? :grin:
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I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
Is yours non-res? Are there tunnels near JKM? Will you take me for a spin on the 16th? :grin:
Theres no tunnels shaun :sad1:, but i can rig up a the Boot Harness, so you can put your ear socket right up against the pipes with the tailgate open :signLOL: :signLOL:
You just need to sit in the front seat and crank the windows down to hear shaun with no problem :happy2:
Hope to see you there nice and early this time :wink:
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I know that blueflame is loud, but a non res milly sounds just as good if driving through a tunnel .
Is yours non-res? Are there tunnels near JKM? Will you take me for a spin on the 16th? :grin:
Theres no tunnels shaun :sad1:, but i can rig up a the Boot Harness, so you can put your ear socket right up against the pipes with the tailgate open :signLOL: :signLOL:
You just need to sit in the front seat and crank the windows down to hear shaun with no problem :happy2:
Hope to see you there nice and early this time :wink:
You can be my french maid and get me out of bed at 5am then! :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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You can be my french maid
:surprised: :scared:
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You can be my french maid
:surprised: :scared:
Remember those Goblin Teasmaids - can't beat a good BJ first thing . . . :evilgrin:
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@ Mandy
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18825.0.html :happy2: