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Title: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: RustyGTI on August 10, 2010, 01:15:24 pm
Hi All

Being new to having DSG I'm not sure if I'm making something out of nothing here, but I'm curious to understand what symptoms are experienced when the DSG system needs a little TLC.

On the odd occasion, especially from cold the changes have seemed everso slightly, well, hesitant and a bit clunky. It doesn't appear a problem when accelerating hard and changes appear to be seamless, but when changing down it feels slightly hesitant with a slight jerk.

It's an 07 car under warranty so maybe it's something that needs attention? Do all DSG systems do this?

Russ
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: S2 Ant on August 10, 2010, 01:19:47 pm
How many miles has the car done?
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: RustyGTI on August 10, 2010, 02:18:53 pm
About 27K miles...so not many...
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: vRS Carl on August 10, 2010, 02:26:49 pm
Recommended Service is 40K miles for DSG and costs approx £170 from a dealer.

I just had mine done and the car feels a lot better to drive now. Placebo effect or actual difference not sure but the gear changes definately feel smoother.

Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: Richn83 on August 10, 2010, 03:51:47 pm
It has also been suggested at 4 years as well by TT on here.  I had similar issues to what you describe with the cold hesitation in gear change and poor down shifts in manual.  mine is an 05 and had 32k on the clock, having it serviced gave an improvement, but the biggest improvement came from getting a basic reset done on the box, which forces it to re-learn the shift points and clutch control, its now a hell of a lot smoother and manual paddle shifts are much better. 

Basic settings can be done via VCDS or I would suspect you VW garage, since its in warranty I would certainly ask them to investigate, that way you have DSG logged as a known fault during warranty period which could be very handy should you experience any issues later in its life.
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: Saint Steve on August 10, 2010, 04:01:27 pm
 :signLOL:
Recommended Service is 40K miles for DSG and costs approx £170 from a dealer.

I just had mine done and the car feels a lot better to drive now. Placebo effect or actual difference not sure but the gear changes definately feel smoother.



2nd that, after my dsg service, gear changes smoothened out alot better .

Worth getting it serviced ,and ask them to do Basic settings on Vagcom again on the box.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: aidogti on August 10, 2010, 10:24:25 pm
i got mine done and the gear changes did feel smoother, although the guy who did it said everytime he's changed the dsg oil the oil that comes out is always clean....  but better safe than sorry i say....
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: TopOfTheFlop on August 11, 2010, 03:40:15 am
Recommended Service is 40K miles for DSG and costs approx £170 from a dealer.

I just had mine done and the car feels a lot better to drive now. Placebo effect or actual difference not sure but the gear changes definately feel smoother.



Carl, is that any main VW dealer?

And does that inc the oil change?

Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on August 11, 2010, 07:14:48 am
 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: vRS Carl on August 11, 2010, 10:06:13 am
Carl, is that any main VW dealer?
And does that inc the oil change?

I paid £168.72 at my Skoda dealer (car is an Octavia DSG). That was for an oil & filter change on the DSG box. I would expect most dealers are around the same price although it will depend on their labour charge. This also included the basic settings for the box. Most dealers will price match aswell

It's not something they can do quickly. I dropped my car off at 08:30 and didn't get it back till 15:00. They have to let the car cool down, drain the oil, change the filter, refill with oil, get the car up to a certain temperature, do some checks on it using VAS and then do the basic settings.

I'll dig the receipt out later and tell you what the exact break down was.  
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: vRS Carl on August 11, 2010, 11:51:57 am
Ok Breakdown is as follows

Filter - £9.78
Oil - £10.51 per litre x 6 - £63.06

Total Parts = £72.84

Labour Charge - £70.75

VAT - £25.13

Total Cost = £168.72

This was at a Main Dealer (Skoda in my case) :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: TopOfTheFlop on August 11, 2010, 05:53:09 pm
Cheers Carl, your a star.
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: bobsey on August 11, 2010, 06:34:33 pm
I have just had the dsg fluid changed on my edition 30 and it has made a big difference.

I have one question though do they reset the ecu while doing it, because im just worried about the revo settings which are on there?
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: Saint Steve on August 11, 2010, 06:41:29 pm
^^ hopefully not, if not there is a small fee that revo dealer will charge you for reflashing it .

Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: vRS Carl on August 11, 2010, 07:04:26 pm
Are you talking about the Engine ECU or the Gearbox ECU for the REVO DSG software?

Either way i don't think they reset the ECU
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: bobsey on August 12, 2010, 10:16:02 am
Are you talking about the Engine ECU or the Gearbox ECU for the REVO DSG software?

Either way i don't think they reset the ECU

Well i know they haven't touched the dsg's ecu, because there is a easy way to test it by a matter of high the revs go with the dsg remap lol.

Its just that it dosent seam to pull as well as it did before, i might pop down to my local revo dealer just for a peace of mind.
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: Top Cat on August 12, 2010, 10:55:54 pm
When they fiddled with mine they reset the ECU. It felt like i was towing a caravan on the way home.  :grin:

And 99% of revo dealers will reflash for nothing.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: Saint Steve on August 13, 2010, 08:45:15 am
When they fiddled with mine they reset the ECU. It felt like i was towing a caravan on the way home.  :grin:

And 99% of revo dealers will reflash for nothing.  :happy2:

Except JKM ..... who do
Title: Re: DSG Needs Service?
Post by: RustyGTI on August 13, 2010, 04:11:25 pm
Just been quoted £149.95 inc VAT for the DSG service +£20 for the software reset (from local VW dealer)...sounds about on the money...

Chap said mechatronics unit is covered depending on what level of warranty I have, I bought mine Used Approved from Wantage VW with a 1 year warranty...so am assuming it's the full warranty and hence covered?

Russ