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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Hurdy on January 31, 2009, 01:06:51 am

Title: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Hurdy on January 31, 2009, 01:06:51 am: Okay, I've been in touch with HPA and they would be willing to fly over to do the upgrade to the DSG software for anyone who wants it. It is in the early stages at the moment, but if there is enough interest we could well have an absolute corker of a chance to sort our cars out to the way the DSG should have been from the start.

As of yet I have no prices either (as I said - early stages) but if anyone is REALLY interested add your name to the list and put down what stage you are most interested in.

USA prices were---(Stage 1 $699, Stage 2 $899, Stage 3 $1995)

Below is a link to VWVortex, so you can remind yourselves of the options.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4158902

List....

1.Hurdy - stage 3R
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: stealthwolf on January 31, 2009, 02:05:36 am: Up late?
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: illyun on January 31, 2009, 02:32:55 am: Hmmm... that Stage 3R looks a bit suspect to me - no mechanical upgrade and vastly increased torque threshold? :scared: I've spoken to VWR and Revo and both are working on similar software... I'd rather wait and get it done by a local tuner who I could go back to if there were any issues. JD Engineering in Holland also have their own DSG software available and are a lot closer should anything go wrong.

But having said all that, I reckon lots of people should take this offer up so that I can see if its safe for my box :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: vRStu on January 31, 2009, 08:20:31 am: HPA are the DSG daddies.

It will only be a matter of time until 'others' release SW but will it be a revised 'read' of the HPA stuff or some experimental SW.
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Top Cat on January 31, 2009, 05:38:44 pm: I just read the entire thread on vortex. Its a very interesting mod. I have started one of our famous lists. :evilgrin:

this list is made up by me, and includes people i think will get it this year.

Jonny C .
Hurdy
RedRobin
V-Tec
GTI James. :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: fastismycopilot on February 02, 2009, 09:38:41 am: add me to the list of seriously interested parties please....... :happy2:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Hurdy on February 02, 2009, 10:42:25 am: Jonny C .
Hurdy
RedRobin
V-Tec
GTI James.
Fastismycopilot
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: fastismycopilot on February 02, 2009, 02:53:32 pm: Having read the options, I'd go for this one.

Jonny C .
Hurdy - stage 3R
RedRobin
V-Tec
GTI James
fastismycopilot - stage 2
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: GTIjames on February 02, 2009, 08:57:34 pm: You read my mind top cat, will definately be interested in either stage 2/3 depending on costs, but this whole increase launch control to 5500 rpm + I had trouble putting the power down at 2500 rpm :ashamed:

The rev limit & torque increase along with proper manual mode sounds very good though! As plan to have twintercooler and hpfp fitted soon. :happy2:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: RedRobin on February 03, 2009, 12:04:28 am: ^^^^
Er....I didn't put my name down for HPA's version.
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Hurdy on February 03, 2009, 12:13:48 am: Quote from: RedRobin on February 03, 2009, 12:04:28 am
^^^^
Er....I didn't put my name down for HPA's version.

I know....I think TC did it for you..LOL
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 03, 2009, 12:16:15 am: Tc was guess who will be having this list LOL
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: RedRobin on February 03, 2009, 12:23:44 am: ^^^^
Cheers, guys - I missed that!
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: RedRobin on February 03, 2009, 12:18:52 pm: ....

HPA might be the "DSG daddies" but, like illyun, I much prefer to go 'locally' to VWR because I know how they develop things and I know I'll get full support which is second-to-none. They won't make it available until they are totally happy with it.

I'll be interested in what Revo have to offer too.

:smiley:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: vRStu on February 12, 2009, 09:46:39 am: Some interesting launch vids here -

http://www.hpamotorsports.com/dsg.htm

I notice Regal now offer the service to UK customers which might be a better option -

Quote
Regal DSG Transmission Software

Our DSG software is brand new to the market. Offering the following advantages

* Raised Rev limits in excess of 7000RPM
* Shorter reaction time on Manual shifts
* Two stage throttle sensitivity for differentiation between hard throttle use and Full throttle.

Future development will also see the introduction of enhanced launch control and, for those running big power turbo turbo kits, single gear kickdown (as opposed to the factory 2) to allow the car to come on boost as the lower gear is selected and higher torque limits.

The "winter" and "education" datasets are left alone, so the DSG's ECU will function as normal, no detrimental effects, just improved performance in the areas where it counts!

DSG Transmission Software Retail Price Ã‚Â£450 VAGOC member price - Ã‚Â£395

The DSG software is the real break through. Flashed through the diagnostic port this is completely un-intrusive mapping of the DSG ECU.
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: GTIjames on February 12, 2009, 10:44:34 am: thanks for that vrSTU,

Just spoken with regal and they had a chap in early this week with gti ed30 for the dsg remap and all went well, takes an hour or so to program and they have a couple of stages to choose from, sounds very similiar to the HPA but this I believe is done by GIAC.

hopefully get mine in next week :party:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:39:12 am: I agree Stu, this is most likely to be a better option. I'm sure that there will be a few more tuners offering this in the near future too. Not a bad price either. I think the HPA version will be over Ã‚Â£1k for the stage 3 map.
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: RedRobin on February 12, 2009, 11:59:54 am: ....

I'm obviously still going to wait for VWR's version :smiley:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: T88OMM on February 12, 2009, 12:00:13 pm: Quote from: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:39:12 am
I agree Stu, this is most likely to be a better option. I'm sure that there will be a few more tuners offering this in the near future too. Not a bad price either. I think the HPA version will be over Ã‚Â£1k for the stage 3 map.

When is it booked in then Hurdy?? :laugh:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:59:52 pm: Quote from: T88OMM on February 12, 2009, 12:00:13 pm
Quote from: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:39:12 am
I agree Stu, this is most likely to be a better option. I'm sure that there will be a few more tuners offering this in the near future too. Not a bad price either. I think the HPA version will be over Ã‚Â£1k for the stage 3 map.

When is it booked in then Hurdy?? :laugh:

Hmmmmm :innocent:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: T88OMM on February 13, 2009, 10:32:11 am: Quote from: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:59:52 pm
Quote from: T88OMM on February 12, 2009, 12:00:13 pm
Quote from: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:39:12 am
I agree Stu, this is most likely to be a better option. I'm sure that there will be a few more tuners offering this in the near future too. Not a bad price either. I think the HPA version will be over Ã‚Â£1k for the stage 3 map.

When is it booked in then Hurdy?? :laugh:

Hmmmmm :innocent:

You won't be able to resist for long with your modding fettish! :laugh:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: RedRobin on February 13, 2009, 11:19:19 am: Quote from: T88OMM on February 13, 2009, 10:32:11 am
Quote from: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:59:52 pm
Quote from: T88OMM on February 12, 2009, 12:00:13 pm
Quote from: Hurdy on February 12, 2009, 11:39:12 am
I agree Stu, this is most likely to be a better option. I'm sure that there will be a few more tuners offering this in the near future too. Not a bad price either. I think the HPA version will be over Ã‚Â£1k for the stage 3 map.

When is it booked in then Hurdy?? :laugh:

Hmmmmm :innocent:

You won't be able to resist for long with your modding fettish! :laugh:

....Who can? I blame this forum!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi456.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq281%2Fpreeto_f07%2Ftop-10-most-overused-words_8.jpg&hash=1dfa0e985812e11c6704ca9150b5a094b170785d)
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: illyun on February 13, 2009, 04:45:55 pm: Quote from: RedRobin on February 12, 2009, 11:59:54 am
....

I'm obviously still going to wait for VWR's version :smiley:

Ditto.. which is why I remain silent amid all this talk of DSG software upgrades and group buys :innocent:
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Phil Mcavity on February 13, 2009, 05:41:04 pm: scary stuff!!
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: Top Cat on February 15, 2009, 10:50:26 am: Illyun, Hurdy where are you :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:

http://www.vimeo.com/2785002
Title: Re: HPA DSG upgrade - interested?
Post by: vRStu on February 15, 2009, 10:56:44 am: That Stage II seems quite agressive, don't fancy the clutch chances of survival with too many of those.

When you come down for the upgrades drop me a line and we'll meet up for a cuppa