MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Janner_Sy on August 21, 2010, 08:32:22 pm
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Well going through our finances i dont think i can stretch to running two cars so were going to sell both cars now and get one single car so im on the look out. After AWD, good interior and good power. Now the interior issue negates the EVO and Impreza being elligable, leaving me with the 6MPS and S3. I drove both today in ashford (both 56 plate and both under 50k mileage).
Anyway, we all know the S3 is good so about the MPS then. Always a treat when they give you the car on your own and say bring it back when your finished.
Well: i really liked it actually. And the missus liked it as well, which is a bonus, as it saves me ear ache if i buy something she doesnt like. for instance she was 100% against the impreza.
1-Loved the look of it in black. really stealth in appearance, the ride height was perfect which is a bonus. The vRS looked like it was on stilts. It rode the bumps very very well. And the interior is very nice indeed, although the front seats could definitely do with bigger side bolsters. What i like is the fixed options list. the only available option on these was the sat nav. everything else, and i mean everything is std,
2-Handling. I was deliberately burying the throttle early on bends to get it to lose traction, and it just grips really quickly. really impressed with that as well. Although it does understeer a little when on the power mid bend and it definitely could do with the rear ARB and a bit more neg camber on the front to keep the nose tucked in(no where near as bad as a std vRS though). I don't think id change the springs TBH, maybe just the dampers. They had some cheopo pirelli tyres on which id change for something stickier.
A few things i wasnt keen on though.
1- 1st-4th gears are really short. i mean seriously 4th gear and only just over 100mph : eek2 : whats that about. It definitely felt like i was changing gear alot, and im not sure what it would be like on track with gears that short. That said the gear shift was nice and short. Much better shift than my vRS which had a forge shifter fitted.
2- Power felt great up to about 4500rpm, then it definitely dies down at the top end in all the gears. Not to much of an issue as reducing the air flow restrictions(intake/exhaust) and mapping it would cure this big style. And dare i say it, there is a slight hint of lag between burying it, and the car responding
here is my thought on this though. As said before the gears a really short, and that's with 256hp/280Ibft. Increasing this to 310Hp+/360Ibft+ would make it rev ALOT faster so, im thinking it could get frantic with the gear changes.
3-Clutch!!- Presumably 4x4 grip will eat a clutch quicker than FWD. This car had covered 45k, and was not capable of a full bore start. granted you never know how much abuse its taken, but launching with 3k and it just couldn't bite. (maybe its me not launching AWD correctly, although i drove an S3 and it had no issue with this)
4-Brakes- sort of unknown area as i have no idea on the state of the fluids etc. the pads looked ok, but the brakes were definitely the weakest point of this car, and id be certain they wouldn't last on a track day. Definitely something i'd change when i pick one up.
well as i said earlier i also drove a 56 plate S3 today to help and get a base to compare the car against. Well the S3 had much better brakes, and handled marginally better, with much more midrange. however for the same age car it was £6000 more expensive than the 6MPS : eek2 : : eek2 : it might be the better car, but it isn't £6k better. Is also a little to small for me as well.
There were a couple marks on that one that put me of of it, and it was quite highly priced for its age as well, so I'm going to search around instead for a better version. The guy tried to sweeten it with the 12 month mechanical warranty, but that would be voided immediately when i start modding it, so would be a waste.
Im thinking considering its 256Hp/280Ibft standard it should reach 310Hp/360Ibft with a few bolt ons and some custom mapping. i think it'd be a great Q car, that would catch alot of quick cars out
Anyone have experience of these cars?
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Know there are difficulties in modding the mps3 not sure about the 6.
Do your research beforehand if you plan to mod
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Hi mate,
Maybe an odd comment here for you here, but I had a Mazda 3 MPS 265bhp (2wd), revving up along side my ED30 a couple of weeks back. I said goodbye to it even after lighting my wheels up in 2nd gear, (and not bothering to set off in 1st :ashamed:). Never driven an MPS, 6 or 3, but the thing was quick make no mistake, it would destroy a std ED30
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I will do. From what i gather remapping is limited to tuners who can use ECUTEC software. but there are about 3 or 4 places in UK doing this. Theres not much of a tuning scene in UK yet, its just taking off, but the yanks are running all sorts of BT conversions on them etc.
It seems that the exhaust is a massive restriction on these cars, and they respond well to a HPFP upgrade as well.
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anybody any input on the 6MPS then?
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was going to buy a 6 mps myself until i saw the road tax bracket etc
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yeah i know, not good, but i can get over that lol. most imprezas/evos fall in this bracket anyway.
however if you find an MPS registered between 2 Jan 2006 – 23 Mar 2006 then the tax is only £245 per year, if you go after that you get sparked with £425
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Dey is damn fugly that much I do know!
Been looking at these recently to and they just look really dated to me!
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Hi mate,
Maybe an odd comment here for you here, but I had a Mazda 3 MPS 265bhp (2wd), revving up along side my ED30 a couple of weeks back. I said goodbye to it even after lighting my wheels up in 2nd gear, (and not bothering to set off in 1st :ashamed:). Never driven an MPS, 6 or 3, but the thing was quick make no mistake, it would destroy a std ED30
Not sure about that mate. They are torque monsters for a standard car, but do run out of puff a bit top end I found and as for destroying a ED30??? :confused: Not sure about that bud. They are around 15 secs 0-100mph which is roughly the same as the ED30 too.. :wink:
I suggest you use the right gear next time.. :driver: :grin:
Regarding the 6MPS, it sounds like a decent car for your needs and do have a stealth look about them and go pretty well too. Only thing I don't like about them is the exhausts. Nice big RS4 style pipes, but if you look closer you will see they are surrounds and have pee shooters inside them.. :confused:
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i really liked them. understated but meaty looks. i like the fact that its a rare car. For some reason i prefer big cars to small hatches. cars like this, BMW 3 series etc etc.
Plus not many people know what they are, so it'd be a treat to catch people out unexpected.
the engines make awesome torque as well. 280Ibft as standard, 330-360Ibft once mapped, and upto 400Ibft once you get the exhaust/fuel pump/intake/IC fitted.
Im meeting up with a guy this week to have a go in his MPS running all of the above
Hi mate,
Maybe an odd comment here for you here, but I had a Mazda 3 MPS 265bhp (2wd), revving up along side my ED30 a couple of weeks back. I said goodbye to it even after lighting my wheels up in 2nd gear, (and not bothering to set off in 1st :ashamed:). Never driven an MPS, 6 or 3, but the thing was quick make no mistake, it would destroy a std ED30
Not sure about that mate. They are torque monsters for a standard car, but do run out of puff a bit top end I found and as for destroying a ED30??? :confused: Not sure about that bud. They are around 15 secs 0-100mph which is roughly the same as the ED30 too.. :wink:
I suggest you use the right gear next time.. :driver: :grin:
Regarding the 6MPS, it sounds like a decent car for your needs and do have a stealth look about them and go pretty well too. Only thing I don't like about them is the exhausts. Nice big RS4 style pipes, but if you look closer you will see they are surrounds and have pee shooters inside them.. :confused:
seriously mate, ive driven ed30's, ive also had a stage 1, 2 and 2+ k03 TFSI, so ive got a good base to compare, it seriously would destroy a std ed30.
you are correct about losing puff at the top end though. This is a quote from an ecutek tuner ref the MPS:
"the MPS ECU carefully controls Engine Torque Output by accurately using the throttle butterfly to limit airflow into the engine. Even whilst the accel pedal may be fully depressed the throttle butterfly will only open around 60%"
presumably this is to keep down the emissions. on all the before and after graphs of std/remapped MPS's the peak gains are only around 30Hp(5500rpm), however at 6500rpm there are gains of 70-80Hp
this is the ecutek 'stage 1' map
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecutek.com%2Fnews%2Fnewsletter%2F2009_10_08%2Fmazda_hp_small.png&hash=1be1ffe0753b01b5795d57125a766fcb68c3ffa0)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecutek.com%2Fnews%2Fnewsletter%2F2009_10_08%2Fmazda_torque_small.png&hash=7f8d623270629420853ccfb3a2cc482fec6ad728)
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dont know much about them mate, dont look very nice though, as for destroying ed 30, 260bhp awd in a big car like that, cant see it been any faster than a 230bhp hot hatch. but diff to usual sti, evo etc :happy2:
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well my vRS was putting out 240Hp/270Ibft and this was most definately quicker than that, and i assure you my vRS was quicker than a std ed30
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1561-1391.htm (http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1561-1391.htm)
Not to far off each other to be fair, the MPS is a much bigger car with an AWD system as well, but the reason for me looking at these though is the ability to put down remapped power outputs of 300Hp+ down to the ground in all weather.
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The 6 MPS wouldn't be as quick as an ED30, let alone DESTROY one.. But I think the guy is on about a 3 MPS which is obviously FWD and 256bhp.
I would happily take on a standard MPS in a standard ED30 and be confident that it wouldn't leave me, let alone destroy me!!! I've seen quite a few running at Pod and they aren't that impressive at all TBH.
Take these ones for example...
http://s589.photobucket.com/albums/ss339/Sinn3h/21%2006%2009%20santapod/?action=view¤t=MOV02772.flv
http://s589.photobucket.com/albums/ss339/Sinn3h/21%2006%2009%20santapod/?action=view¤t=MOV02773.flv
http://s589.photobucket.com/albums/ss339/Sinn3h/21%2006%2009%20santapod/?action=view¤t=MOV02787.flv
http://s589.photobucket.com/albums/ss339/Sinn3h/21%2006%2009%20santapod/?action=view¤t=MOV02705.flv
And they are modded... :surprised:
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well my vRS was putting out 240Hp/270Ibft and this was most definately quicker than that, and i assure you my vRS was quicker than a std ed30
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1561-1391.htm (http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1561-1391.htm)
Not to far off each other to be fair, the MPS is a much bigger car with an AWD system as well, but the reason for me looking at these though is the ability to put down remapped power outputs of 300Hp+ down to the ground in all weather.
Depends which website you look at mate.. :wink:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/45c81efb18f1d-vs-46767cd391964.html
But TBH I never take these sites as gosbel and always pay more attention to the likes of Autocar and Evo mag when they do independent tests against the clock.
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ill give you that, maybe destroy is the wrong word but id be confident of it coming out in front(just).
the biggest deal for me though after having my vRS with good tyres and all the chassis mods was how easy it was to spin away the power off the mark especially in the wet as well as in the bends. this put down similar performance even in the wet
those would have been std. 1/4 mile in stock form is the low 14's
Depends which website you look at mate..
http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/45c81efb18f1d-vs-46767cd391964.html
But TBH I never take these sites as gosbel and always pay more attention to the likes of Autocar and Evo mag when they do independent tests against the clock.
:grin: :grin:
i believe you should re-read which car wins that mate. however thats the 3 MPS. Im not interested in that. the 6 would be a more even match with the extra weight and more similar power to weight ratios etc
i agree with you there about not believing in half of the reports you get. to be fair the 6mps would never be a match for the GTI on a track when it comes to throw-ability, im fully aware of that.
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I owned a mazda 6MPS for just over a year untill last month. Right where to start?
Good Points-
New these cars were circa £25k but they are a used bargain now having dropped like a stone. Good examples can be had for around £8k.
Standard kit is awesome. Full leather, electric drivers seat with 3 memory functions. Some had heated seats as standard (some didn't)
Xenon lights
Bose sound system which is one of the best standard systems ive heard.
Cruise control
6 cd Multichanger (some have a hard drive aswell).
Look up the word "sleeper" in the old English dictionairy and there will be a picture of this car
AWD last winter in all that snow this was a god send.
Bad Points
As has been said Road Tax is huge unless you buy an early car and it is this and the petrol cost that hit its value hard. Those that can afford to tax and run the MPS can afford to buy a "better car".
AWD it steals space from the boot. The back seats dont fold down unless you modify them.
MPG wise 27mpg on a run, 23 combined.
Tyres. I can not stress about the tyres. They are a rare size and cost nearly £300rrp a pop.
Hard to mod but options are coming all the time from the states.
All in all a good car and i would rate it up there with my old mk5 R32, the reason i sold was the Pirelli Gti i have got now is more fun for the town driving i do 99% of the time. If you cover a few miles and for the price a 6MPS is hard to beat.
If you want more info or a link to a good forum then give me a shout.
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ive already been searching around. i noticed the tyres were a strange size, 215/45R18s iirc. id be changing the alloys anyway for a something with a wider tyre though like a 225 which would have much more availability. and according to tyre comparison websites, changing the asect ratio rom 45 to 40 ould only change the speed at 70mmp by about 1-2 mph. so id fit 225/40R18s which re ceap as chips
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ill give you that, maybe destroy is the wrong word but id be confident of it coming out in front(just).
the biggest deal for me though after having my vRS with good tyres and all the chassis mods was how easy it was to spin away the power off the mark especially in the wet as well as in the bends. this put down similar performance even in the wet
those would have been std. 1/4 mile in stock form is the low 14's
Depends which website you look at mate..
http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/45c81efb18f1d-vs-46767cd391964.html
But TBH I never take these sites as gosbel and always pay more attention to the likes of Autocar and Evo mag when they do independent tests against the clock.
:grin: :grin:
i believe you should re-read which car wins that mate. however thats the 3 MPS. Im not interested in that. the 6 would be a more even match with the extra weight and more similar power to weight ratios etc
I was looking at the 0-100mph (0-160kph) time TBH mate which I think is a good indication of a cars performance for me (0-60 is a waste of time). The 1/4 mile time doesn't make sense either, 0-100 in 14.5, yet 1/4 mile in 14.2 @ 100mph :confused:. Work that one out.. This is the reason I prefer to go off independent real tests, rather than figures snatched from brochures etc.
The 6 MPS would be better in the wet, no doubt. But with a power/weight of 156bhp/tonne I wouldn't expect it to be scaldingly fast. The 3 would be a decent amount quicker once rolling. But as an all rounder, both are nice, well specced (as standard) cars that are often dismissed..
Oh and the MPS' in the vids are modded mate..
White one :-
Mazda 3 MPS Aero - Crystal White Mica Pearl
Turbosmart BOV
HPS Induction
Stage 2 re-map
COBB downpipe w/cat
HKS cat back
Met Grey RX8 Alloys
Silver one :-
Non-aero,
volk CE28 18" Alloys,
HKS D1 gear knob,
Greddy Ti-c exhaust,
Forge FMIC,
Forge CAI,
Carbonetic 4 puck blade clutch,
COBB downpipe,
Sanspeed re-map,
aero spoiler,
eibach lowering springs,
Cobb ARB'S,cp-e gauge pod + gauges,
SU rear engine mount.
They may say they do low 14 1/4's, but on paper and on track can be two different things and after seeing many run at Pod, I have never seen a standard one get close to low 14's yet.
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The 6 MPS would be better in the wet, no doubt. But with a power/weight of 156bhp/tonne I wouldn't expect it to be scaldingly fast.
I've wanted stage 2+ k04 power for a long time, but ive driven quite a few of the stage 2+ k04s now and in the wet its to much power to get down effectively. thats including VWRs red temptress which has every mod you could throw at it, and even that was really skittish in the wet trying to search for the grip.
this is why im lookin into AWD. Id love the S3. but its another £6k on top of the price of the same age/mileage Mazda 6mps. My aim is to be making over 200Hp/ton when im finished with what ever car i end up with
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dont know much about them mate, dont look very nice though, as for destroying ed 30, 260bhp awd in a big car like that, cant see it been any faster than a 230bhp hot hatch. but diff to usual sti, evo etc :happy2:
(The 3 not awd mate, its fwd. The 6 is awd.)
I like everyones opinions here on this, but, ....... I was alongside the 3 MPS, I 'know' what happened running 300bhp in my ED30. With 230 ? I would have lost.
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dont know much about them mate, dont look very nice though, as for destroying ed 30, 260bhp awd in a big car like that, cant see it been any faster than a 230bhp hot hatch. but diff to usual sti, evo etc :happy2:
(The 3 not awd mate, its fwd. The 6 is awd.)
I like everyones opinions here on this, but, ....... I was alongside the 3 MPS, I 'know' what happened running 300bhp in my ED30. With 230 ? I would have lost.
http://www.bsm.co.uk/
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i thught we were taliking about the 6? which i thought was 260bhp and awd?
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we were, the 6MPS is 260PS which is 256Hp. Identical engine as the 3MPS though.
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i thught we were taliking about the 6? which i thought was 260bhp and awd?
Read back JH, my comment was regarding the 3 which you picked up on. Looks like things are becoming confusing here now, I maybe shouldnt have mentioned the drag against the 3 MPS :confused: Ah well, ye live and learn........... :wink:
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What you also need to take into account with all these new mazda's is that a proportion of them are Ford bits
The Mazda 2 is based on a Fiesta, the 3 is based on a focus and the 6 on a mondeo
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it got one up on the ford in the TG review and on track ad rinsed the vectra VXR by 3 seconds lol.
top gear track times
mondeo ST220 1:34.5
mazda 6 MPS 1:32.2
vectra VXR 1:35.3
So in between the 2 most recent R32 models which id be happy with to be honest
Mk V Golf R32 1.30.4 and Mk IV Golf R32 1.33.2
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just had someone mention a what about an audi a4 quattro 2.0TFSI Hmmmm. but then i looked at an S4 bi turbo arhhhhh
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dont know much about them mate, dont look very nice though, as for destroying ed 30, 260bhp awd in a big car like that, cant see it been any faster than a 230bhp hot hatch. but diff to usual sti, evo etc :happy2:
(The 3 not awd mate, its fwd. The 6 is awd.)
I like everyones opinions here on this, but, ....... I was alongside the 3 MPS, I 'know' what happened running 300bhp in my ED30. With 230 ? I would have lost.
http://www.bsm.co.uk/
:signLOL:
Strange boy :stupid:
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I've driven both the 6MPS and the 3 MPS in the past and the 6MPS impressed me more even though it is heavier. The gearing was a little frantic, but the shifting was really smooth and slick, so I didn't mind mixing the box. The 3MPS FELT gruntier than a stock ED30, but against a DSG stock ED30 the 3 and 6 would both struggle due to the aforemention busy manual box. All IMHO of course :smiley:
Just to add - stock mine did a 14.32 1/4 mile completely stock and also did 5.66 0-60 completely stock. :P
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Well, my experience is based on real world driving, normal roads, cold(ish) tyres and being out of the correct gear as when I was almost at a stop in 2nd, (not expecting a 'race' if you like), the MPS hammered away, no point me forcing first gear in (non DSG) while rolling. I got rid of the MPS when I actually got some traction in 3rd. I was also coming back from a 14hr fishing day and was pretty tired/out of sorts etc. Maybe a stock manual ED30 could do better than I thought ? Who knows ? All I know is, I was glad I was mapped !!
(Your also the second person to mention an MPS feels gruntier/quicker than a stock ED30 though).
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Well, my experience is based on real world driving, normal roads, cold(ish) tyres and being out of the correct gear as when I was almost at a stop in 2nd, (not expecting a 'race' if you like), the MPS hammered away, no point me forcing first gear in (non DSG) while rolling. I got rid of the MPS when I actually got some traction in 3rd. I was also coming back from a 14hr fishing day and was pretty tired/out of sorts etc. Maybe a stock manual ED30 could do better than I thought ? Who knows ? All I know is, I was glad I was mapped !!
(Your also the second person to mention an MPS feels gruntier/quicker than a stock ED30 though).
Aaaaah you never mentioned that you did him once you were in 3rd and your fishing rods weren't in the way.. It's all coming out now :signLOL:
They do FEEL quicker due to the surge in mid range torque. But like I said, they tail off quite quickly whilst the KO4 delivery is quite the oppisite. Either way, they would be fairly well matched IMO and neither would disappear. :happy2:
Oh and what's wrong with being strange? :rolleye: :grin:
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Be careful what you say to Mark, if he says the MPS is quicker, it's quicker okay!
Here is a pic of him:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs.bebo.com%2Fapp-image%2F7925413812%2F5411656627%2FPROFILE%2Fi.quizzaz.com%2Fimg%2Fq%2Fu%2F08%2F04%2F16%2FmuscleMan.jpg&hash=bdc641130a6208481242a6c8ee4d10ec93ef9f64)
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Be careful what you say to Mark, if he says the MPS is quicker, it's quicker okay!
Here is a pic of him:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs.bebo.com%2Fapp-image%2F7925413812%2F5411656627%2FPROFILE%2Fi.quizzaz.com%2Fimg%2Fq%2Fu%2F08%2F04%2F16%2FmuscleMan.jpg&hash=bdc641130a6208481242a6c8ee4d10ec93ef9f64)
:signLOL:
I've got bigger lats than that.. :grin:
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Be careful what you say to Mark, if he says the MPS is quicker, it's quicker okay!
Here is a pic of him:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs.bebo.com%2Fapp-image%2F7925413812%2F5411656627%2FPROFILE%2Fi.quizzaz.com%2Fimg%2Fq%2Fu%2F08%2F04%2F16%2FmuscleMan.jpg&hash=bdc641130a6208481242a6c8ee4d10ec93ef9f64)
Lol...... :happy2:
Yeh, forgot to say all my fishin rods were stuck everywhere in the car, jammed on the brake pedal and everything :signLOL: I couldnt see out he window for my bivvy either :booty:
No i didnt mention I did him in 3rd, thought it would be obvious enough after 'lighting the wheels up in 2nd' :evilgrin: Ah well, some people need more details than others, I will try and have a video running 24/7 for you next time :P
Opinions, opinions :wink:
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i say fair play to you for saying what you did. beats denying it or making sh!t up. its about as i would have expected to be honest.
dont forget he would have potentially had more grip with the LSD, as well, and the power delivery is totally different. peak power being hit at just over 5k, as a pose to the ed30 which is more like 6500rpm. so initiallyty id expect him to get the run on you.
from what ive found they make good power once modded.
this is the ecutek 'stage 1' map 6 MPS
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecutek.com%2Fnews%2Fnewsletter%2F2009_10_08%2Fmazda_hp_small.png&hash=1be1ffe0753b01b5795d57125a766fcb68c3ffa0)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecutek.com%2Fnews%2Fnewsletter%2F2009_10_08%2Fmazda_torque_small.png&hash=7f8d623270629420853ccfb3a2cc482fec6ad728)
this is a 3mps but same engine. exhaust/intake/intercooler and ecutek custom map. Similar Hp/torque to a stage 2+ K04 TFSI, so i cant wait to see what this manages with an uprated HPFP and map tweak
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Frr179%2Fsdg3mps%2F9ff307e6.jpg&hash=5cc746d1262851aa111e7d7a88b13d24855c4cf2)
im starting to make a bit of headway with potential tuning options now. make sit a bit mo interesting than everything being available. the joy is in the search lol.
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Thanks Sy, the info was intended for your perusal in the first place, I know it wasnt directly related but I did mention this initially :wink:
Looks like a 6 might be the way to go for you with the gains available there :drinking: :popcornsoda:
Re the 3 MPS modded graph :party: Blimey ! its got 50hp on my KO4 .......... :grin: :evilgrin:
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i know, even if you took 20Hp off for dyno lottery into account its still very good figures. althoug we all know big figures are hard to come by on dyno dynamics rollers.
id be happy with a nice plateau of power at say 310hp with a fat wad of torque. sort the shocks out, fit ARBs, add some camber and castor to the front de badge it, and be a proper sleeper. i like the idea of a relatively unknown car with big grip and power. suburus and evos draw to much attention,
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Sound like your on the right path here mate, a real sleeper indeed with big big power ! Nice :smiley: :happy2: Go for it :party:
My Ed30 is mega quick ~(to me anyway, and most who have been in it) but really I need a diff for the twisties (just insurance trouble if I go mad wi stuff y'know) :rolleye:
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i think the LSD needs to be one of the first mods on these cars IMO overlooked because its expensive and you cant see it. but the guys who have fitted it say its the best mod everytime
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i think the LSD needs to be one of the first mods on these cars IMO overlooked because its expensive and you cant see it. but the guys who have fitted it say its the best mod everytime
100% true best mod ever should have done it first :smiley:
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there are two reasons i ended up selling.
1st i want over 300hp, and that would involve a turbo conversion at circa £3000 +
2ndthe car already really needed an LSD for wet weather £1200
so it'd be cheaper for me to change car to something that can manage that off the std turbo and doesnt require an LSD plus i get to try something new. not even in a rush right now. I have the money sat there collecting dust for a car, but the wifes still got her pug, and i only live 1 mile away from where i work, o dont need a car immediately. Im just awaiting a peach of a car to how itself and then ill take it
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Well the Mazda isn't so quick I found today. Probs was STD though :evilgrin:
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:laugh: :laugh: naughty :grin:
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what about this as an alternative.
Volvo S60R-300Hp/295Ibft as standard, so id like to think good tuning potential anybody driven one?
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dragtimes.com%2Fimages%2F9765-2006-Volvo-S60.jpg&hash=20fb3f818f2ef7bc79b1246006386a31bda6cbdb)
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Yes
We used to have one at work. You can get around 330Bhp & 325+ lb/ft mapped.
Very good car. AWD is quite good (though not in same league as EVO/Scooby).
Quick & Capable but not really a track car. More of a A-Road/Motorway blast
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cant really see me getting much track day time for a fair while anyway. lu si like my big saloons so its right up my alley. how would you say it handled compared to the modded vRS carl. obviously its a bloody heavy car
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PM'd you mate :happy2:
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:happy2: