MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: VWKD on August 26, 2010, 11:28:34 pm
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Hi all
Some of you may have been following this thread (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18438.0.html) and read about the fun I've had trying to get me 'the cheapest Edition 30 on the net!!!!' anyway I hoping you guys can give me some tips on what I should be looking out for when I go to view it on Saturday as I know I will be wearing my Rose Tints big time.
Here some pics of it to start with
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Speil from AT Advert
• 2007 (07 reg)
• Hatchback
• Mileage
• Manual
• 2.0L
• Petrol
5 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Petrol, Grey, Heated Seats, Alloy Wheels, Radio/CD Player, Leather, Central Locking, Power Assisted Steering, Anti-Lock Braking, Electronic Stability Program.£10,499
As the original advert from their site has been removed from the net I can't even remember what extras it had on it.. so if anyone can point them out from the pics and tell me what you get on the Edition 30 over a standard GTI that would be great. Also point out what it hasn't got would be cool too.
They did say it had a bluetooth parrot whatever that is.
The sales lady said they have cam chains rather than belts is this true?
They also said they would provide me with a HPI certificate.. should I settle for this or get my own done ?
Once I've looked at it and want to take it they will sort out any bodywork that need sorting included in the price.. she said there was a slight scuff on the bottom of the front bumper and a couple of chips on the rear bumper that would be sorted. They also said they would replace any tyres if they were below 1.6mm included in the price..you can guarantee the tyres won't be that low then. You also get 7 days insurance, 120 point check and valet.
It was served at 66000 at VW and now on 72000 what are the servicing intervals on these ? from what I read on here longlife isn't good if it's on that.
The car was originally own by them new and the owner p/ex it against a new VXR (think she said) so if that's true sounds good.
She said according to the V5 it was a UK car
Need to find out about MOT and Tax.. those tinted glasses seem to work even when on the phone I didn't ask any useful questions :surprised:
What do you pay tax on these per year ?
Is it worth bothering with their Warranty (http://www.themotorhouse.co.uk/warranties.aspx) for an extra £299 ?
Is insurance much more on these over a standard GTi as I got a quote for a standard one and it was an extra £120 a year compared to my 2002 GT TDI 150.
That good enough to be going on with
Thanks in advance for tips :happy2:
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From the pics, I can see that it hasn't got rear parking sensors and no rear tints. Judging by the aerial I don't think it has Sat Nav.
I can see from the pic of the rear wheel that it has a Michelin tyre, lol.
I have a Parrot handsfree kit too in mine, previous owner must've installed it, I've not used it yet though.
The HPI they provide you with should be ok, just look through it obviously, make sure its all ok.
On the V5, the First Date of Registration and First Date of Registration in the UK should match, this is a good indication that the car is not an import.
I think the tax is around £235 a year.
The insurance for the Ed30 is group 18, where as standard gti is 17 so shouldn't be much more on top.
I reckon they should give you a years MOT if you ask nicely. :wink:
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It's had one owner, first registered 13 07 2007.
Grey with a Manual Box and listed as being an ED30. I will PM you the chassis no linked to that reg number :evilgrin:
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They have a cam belt & only a ''small'' cam chain. Check belt & tensioner/rollers/water pump have been changed. :happy2:
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If they say it has leather....their lying! :rolleye:
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If they say it has leather....their lying! :rolleye:
.........genuine ed 30 has part leather seats. :smiley:
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VWKD,
When are you going to view the car, I'm relatively local, well Telford and Motorhouse are in Brownhills, so not to far away if you want me to have a look with at the car with you?
I thought the PH add had it listed with only 19k miles?
IIRC they said it had Lux and Winter Packs, but you'll to have a look yourself for these as some dealers/sellers have no idea what these contain.
Not sure what other options it has... :smiley:
Certainly as the others have said:
No:
Xenons
Sunroof
Rear parking sensors
Rear tint's
DSG
SAT NAV (normal aerial, but hey mine has sat nav with the normal aerial)
YES
Metallic Paint
5 doors
Possible:
Cruise
Rear Airbags
Luxury Pack
Winter Pack
Sound System (AMP and 10 speakers) RCD300?
.... :happy2:
Feel free to update if I've missed anything... :signLOL:
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Only way to check if its an import is to check the dealer PDI stamp in the service book or speak to VW with the chassis number, if it has cruise control and NO service book handy or the previous owner "hasnt dropped it in yet" then theres a good chance its not a UK car - which in itself isn't a problem especially if its over three years old. Just forewarning you thats all.
If theres no evidence of a cam belt change then they would need to do that for you imho - dont worry about the MOT a 3 year old golf should fly through - you'd be better off bargaining for something else like bodywork or wheel refurbs.
Look like it has a MFSW which is good news
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I might be totally wrong but isn't the 4 position button on the seat electric seats/lumber??
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I might be totally wrong but isn't the 4 position button on the seat electric seats/lumber??
Correct :happy2:
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I still cant get over the price of this beauty...you can see why the PH chancer thought he could make a quick buck. :rolleye:
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if you get the vin or reg number and ring up a vw garage or customer services they will give you information on anything the car has had done to it within the dealer network (service,recalls,warranty work etc). they can also tell you where the car was first registered off the vin.
abs and aircon can be a problem make sure it has a complete service history or your warranty covers these parts (abs £1200 plus) if they have not been done.
ring vw customer service before you go they have always been helpfull when i have used them .
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VWKD,
When are you going to view the car, I'm relatively local, well Telford and Motorhouse are in Brownhills, so not to far away if you want me to have a look with at the car with you?
I thought the PH add had it listed with only 19k miles?
IIRC they said it had Lux and Winter Packs, but you'll to have a look yourself for these as some dealers/sellers have no idea what these contain.
Not sure what other options it has... :smiley:
Certainly as the others have said:
No:
Xenons
Sunroof
Rear parking sensors
Rear tint's
DSG
SAT NAV (normal aerial, but hey mine has sat nav with the normal aerial)
YES
Metallic Paint
5 doors
Possible:
Cruise
Rear Airbags
Luxury Pack
Winter Pack
Sound System (AMP and 10 speakers) RCD300?
.... :happy2:
Feel free to update if I've missed anything... :signLOL:
Hi Moschops,
I'm heading up tomorrow morning (coming from Chippenham, Wiltshire) aiming to get there about 10. If you're about then that would be great :happy2:
The one you are thinking of on PH wasn't the actual car it was the car that the bloke trying to make a quck buck stole pics from.
Thanks for all the advice amazing stuff.
I just called VW off the back of what some of you have said and very nice they were....
Was told Cam belt changes are 4 years or 110k so I guess not due one yet.
Apparently only been serviced at VW once - May 2008 at 17k
It's on a long life service (2 years 20k)
All Recalls have been done
and UK car.
So interesting to see where the servicing has been done ! I'm sure she told me it was done at 66k with VW
Just got this back from motorhouse....
I dealt with the other customer yesterday when he was here so I went
through the whole pack.
I have got some info here though for you.
The vehicle was serviced 3 previous times at the company it was
originally owned by at 17, 38 and 50,000 miles.
There is no service book just the invoices, Which is better as you know
what was done to the car not just a stamp with miles and a date on it.
There is 2 keys and a leather wallet with handbook in there.
The vehicle has current m.o.t until August 2011 and the road tax is the
responsibility of the customer on collection day.
The vehicle has half leather, heated seats and climate control, as well
as the other standard items.
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No service book will be a problem come resale time, but I guess that's already been reflected in their price.
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VWKD,
You got mail.... :happy2:
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just a note the ABS is not a recall .i only make this point again becaue i had a problem with mine ,it broke at 3 years 4 months and 24000 miles ,so out of warranty.the car had 1 dealer stamp at 13000 and 1 independant stamp at 22000 .vw covered 100% parts 50% labour.
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just a note the ABS is not a recall .i only make this point again becaue i had a problem with mine ,it broke at 3 years 4 months and 24000 miles ,so out of warranty.the car had 1 dealer stamp at 13000 and 1 independant stamp at 22000 .vw covered 100% parts 50% labour.
Cool thanks for that I bear it in mind and find out if they will cover this sort of issue.
Update on the service history
The vehicle was owned by a finance company first, There is no mention of
who serviced it but it has got the invoices of what was done and how
much it cost them to do. This is the first 3 services given to you, So
they may have sent it to Vw for the first as indicated by yourself to
keep the warranty ongoing.
The fourth service was done by the 2nd owner at a Vw garage which is a
separate invoice at 66,000 miles.
Not sure why VW didn't mention the 66k service, will have to look closely at that receipt.
I can live without the service book at the price it's at.. I'll try contacting the PO to see if she (she is that good or bad) ever had it in her possession if I get it... I'm sure I can get one off ebay if not :innocent:
Another question.. how does the ED30 obtain it's extra 30 horses over a standard Gti ?
Big thanks to everyone for their input on this.
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i think the turbo is bigger (an 04 instead of an 03)
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If it was originally sold by the motorhouse it stands a very good chance of being an import as I remeber seeing them there when I was looking for a gti!
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If it was originally sold by the motorhouse it stands a very good chance of being an import as I remeber seeing them there when I was looking for a gti!
From what I now understand it was owned by a finance company, them Motorhouse who sold it to some lady who then partex it at motorhouse for a 2010 Vauxhall VXR of some description. VW confirmed it was UK and Motorhouse confirm the V5 states UK.
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If it was originally sold by the motorhouse it stands a very good chance of being an import as I remeber seeing them there when I was looking for a gti!
From what I now understand it was owned by a finance company, them Motorhouse who sold it to some lady who then partex it at motorhouse for a 2010 Vauxhall VXR of some description. VW confirmed it was UK and Motorhouse confirm the V5 states UK.
DVLA has it as no previous keepers, other than the first one. Ask MH what the name is on the V5 (or ask to see it when you go to look).
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It's had one owner, first registered 13 07 2007.
Should already have an MOT on it then :smiley:
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After a nice 4 hour round trip it was a tad on the rough side I'll list all the things we spotted later when I'm at my pc but basically lots of snatches and stuff. Massive thanks to Wayne who was a huge help and saved me big time from the rose tints
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You still getting it? Or got your deposit back to look for a better one?
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You still getting it? Or got your deposit back to look for a better one?
Deposit back, am pretty gutted as no chance I'll be able to afford a ed30 unless by some miracle another turns up at this price... but I know it was the right decision to walk away.
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After a nice 4 hour round trip it was a tad on the rough side I'll list all the things we spotted later when I'm at my pc but basically lots of snatches and stuff. Massive thanks to Wayne who was a huge help and saved me big time from the rose tints
Hi JP...just got in, glad to hear your home okay...did you get the deposit back? Hope so.
It was good to meet and help you in your decision..I know you made the right choice in the end, although I know having been there myself many times you really want it...it's always a hard decision to have to make. :congrats:
Always happy to help... :happy2:
Choppers... :smiley:
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:popcornsoda:
Looking forward to hearing the report .... Internal scratches etc can all dealt with, new door cards etc these are quite cheap to swap out. I reviewed a cw one but you'd have thought it was a ten year old car inside.
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Sorry to hear this wasn't 'the one' .
Also be interested to hear what put you off such a potential bargain? :popcornsoda:
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I better get deposit back she said I would but I may need to do report, so I may need the pics you took. I'll Chase it up tomorrow.
Ok list of things that I can remember
Door skin stuck out half inch from wing did have missing screw which may have pulled it back in
Scratches on roof
Big scuffs on bottom of bumper both sides
Scuffed corner of front bumper
Rear bumper cracked with crazing along top edge would guess reversed into post. Movement in bumper
All wheels badly kerbed and lacker coming off
The gloss black pillars on back door Windows chipped and rust spots
Drivers side skirt warped in middle and coming away from sill
Passenger side of car had been sprayed for some reason
Stone chips on front including some bubbling of laquer on bonnet
Under bonnet insulation ripped/holed
Top of oil filler cap missing preventing you from opening it without using pliers or summut
Wayne said engine was quite ticky compared to his
Fag burn hole in center of drivers seat where yer bum goes
Leather back to thread on drivers bolster and badly worn on passenger bolster
Steering wheel very shiny as bad as my 11 year old passat with 185k on it.
Trim on door panels not good
Roof lining marked
For some reason climate was in Fahrenheit !
Spec was very low other than mfs and highline not even front arm rest or cover on ash tray or cover on cup holders
No service book
Only serviced at vw once at 17k and print out for other services
I didn't take it for a drive so can't comment on that.
Apart from that it was really sweet :) and the spare wheel / tool kit was immaculate
In short it was very unloved and abused I guess in realty it was possibly sensibly priced rather than a bargain which is what I was hoping for. Wayne made a very good point that for 10.5k I could get a much nicer gti with better spec and lower miles just not a ed30.
Anything to add choppers?
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For some reason climate was in Fahrenheit !
That's not a major issue, it can be changed from C to F fairly easily.
It does seem like a bit of a dog from what you've described, as several of your points are a bit more than wear & tear. It seems like the previous owner just saw it as a means to get from A to B and no more.
To put right everything that was wrong about it, you could save your time & money and just spend a bit more on a decent one in the first place. Always go with your instincts....you seem quite happy that you walked away from it and it's always useful to take a second pair of eyes, especially someone who knows the particular model of car well.
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Nothing hugely significant on their own however I guess when they all add up you get a bad overall feeling, ... Fag burn on seat!!! Aaaarrrgghh! Shame after the effort you put in, you'll know when the one for you turns up. Good luck with the search.
Can we get the previous owner done for car abuse or something? :smiley:
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I better get deposit back she said I would but I may need to do report, so I may need the pics you took. I'll Chase it up tomorrow.
Ok list of things that I can remember
Door skin stuck out half inch from wing did have missing screw which may have pulled it back in
Scratches on roof
Big scuffs on bottom of bumper both sides
Scuffed corner of front bumper
Rear bumper cracked with crazing along top edge would guess reversed into post. Movement in bumper
All wheels badly kerbed and lacker coming off
The gloss black pillars on back door Windows chipped and rust spots
Drivers side skirt warped in middle and coming away from sill
Passenger side of car had been sprayed for some reason
Stone chips on front including some bubbling of laquer on bonnet
Under bonnet insulation ripped/holed
Top of oil filler cap missing preventing you from opening it without using pliers or summut
Wayne said engine was quite ticky compared to his
Fag burn hole in center of drivers seat where yer bum goes
Leather back to thread on drivers bolster and badly worn on passenger bolster
Steering wheel very shiny as bad as my 11 year old passat with 185k on it.
Trim on door panels not good
Roof lining marked
For some reason climate was in Fahrenheit !
Spec was very low other than mfs and highline not even front arm rest or cover on ash tray or cover on cup holders
No service book
Only serviced at vw once at 17k and print out for other services
I didn't take it for a drive so can't comment on that.
Apart from that it was really sweet :) and the spare wheel / tool kit was immaculate
In short it was very unloved and abused I guess in realty it was possibly sensibly priced rather than a bargain which is what I was hoping for. Wayne made a very good point that for 10.5k I could get a much nicer gti with better spec and lower miles just not a ed30.
Anything to add choppers?
Morning,
All as above really, real shame as walking up to the car it looked good for the miles but when we started to look in depth at the car all the niggles and damage became apparent. one thing I will add was all four doors had at sometime been opened into something hard or sharp and so all had edge damage, not a major on it's own but when you add to the list, the car had not been really looked after. All four wheels had the laquer peeling away from them and also the brake calipers were pink, so would lead me to suggest that the car had been washed regularly by the local Polish or Albanian garage car wash team and the corrosive chemicals they use help speed up the general untidiness of the car. :stupid: Two were badly kerbed too :confused:
The bonnet was remarkbaly in good order a couple of chips here and there but nothing major especially for the miles the car had done.. :driver:
However the front bumper/spliter was really knackered and the rear bumper shot, it had either been hit or backed into something and the result was a split above and below the number plate recesse, one closer inspection the crack had caused crazing all along the majority of the top of the bumper and it was a" loose as a witches tit" on the nearside.... :chicken: They said it would just need touching in... :indifferent:
The salesgirl told us she inspected it in the rain so really didn't spend a lot time on it and it showed.... :rolleye: Although she was fit.... :pomppomp:
The steering wheel was well shiney, never seen one like that in a long long time, I think it had been massaged with oil of ulay... :signLOL:
If they had given JP the money off he was looking for then he'd of had it and spent time putting it right, however there was very little movement in the price from what he told (left him to talk to the salesman alone at that point...although he was a real Arfur Daily....... :smiley: the salesman not JP... :signLOL:)
So all in all a very unkept and miserable looking ED30...shame
How the bloke on PH was ever going to get 16K for it well, I think you'd have to look at it afer you'd been on a session at the pub and had your beer goggles on... :booty:
Hope this was okay JP? Do you need the pics and have you got your loot back yet... :party:
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Agree with what you said.
The bloke on PH was after £11695 so trying to make a quick g btw
Spoke to them earlier and they said they put a cheque in the post should be with me Tue/Wed.
I still think it is a good buy for the right person at the price above especially as motorhouse said they'd sort the front and rear bumper (not sure to what standard) One of the major things for me was that I was clearing myself out bigtime to afford 10.5 so would not have been able to afford to put things right on it for a while and would be screwed if summut went wrong with it.
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Sounds like the guy on PH pulled out of the sale when he saw the condition of the car rather than them pulling out. I did laugh to myself when i read an earlier post saying the dealer had pulled the deal. Money is money and no dealer would care what happens to the car next aslong as they get the money they want for it.
Also 2 words shoud have rang alarm bells "lease company". Yes the company is only classed as 1 owner but 6 million idiots may have driven or leased it and as we all know when you have a hire car you are not exactly careful. Whats that saying, "The fastest car in the world is a hire car" lol.
Good luck with your search, might be worth looking for a GTI because any ED30's in that price range will be priced low for a reason.
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Sounds like the guy on PH pulled out of the sale when he saw the condition of the car rather than them pulling out. I did laugh to myself when i read an earlier post saying the dealer had pulled the deal. Money is money and no dealer would care what happens to the car next aslong as they get the money they want for it.
Also 2 words shoud have rang alarm bells "lease company". Yes the company is only classed as 1 owner but 6 million idiots may have driven or leased it and as we all know when you have a hire car you are not exactly careful. Whats that saying, "The fastest car in the world is a hire car" lol.
Good luck with your search, might be worth looking for a GTI because any ED30's in that price range will be priced low for a reason.
The guy from the PH deal hadn't even seen the car :smiley:
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Dunno whether to despise the bloke from PH or admire his ingenuity. And bump on the post about MH suddenly developing a conscience and pulling out of the deal on moral grounds... :grin: