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Title: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: VWKD on September 06, 2010, 04:24:46 pm
This ED30 on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200515907485) looks pretty sweet but looks like it's been for a swim :(

CAT B seems a bit harsh not that I really understand the CAT stuff.. does it affect your insurance ?

Would you guys suggest staying well away ?

cheers
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: MAT ED30 on September 06, 2010, 04:27:59 pm
cat b is a breaker only so whats it doing back on the road  :confused:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: edd666999 on September 06, 2010, 04:30:02 pm
he types in CAPITALS = not trust worthy  :grin:

seriously cat b? i thought you were only allowed to repair d and c?
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Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: markymark on September 06, 2010, 04:32:00 pm
Electrics and water dont mix, my mate has a new Range Rover in his workshop which has had flood damage, its had thousands spent on it already and its still buggered. I think it now needs a new gearbox at a cost of £5k :surprised: My advice is to steer clear....also CAT B!!! I didnt think CAT B's were allowed back on the road!???
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: Greeners on September 06, 2010, 04:38:15 pm
I would imagine he has the categorisation code wrong as VOSA would not have needed to inspect it if it were a B as it would have been stripped/crushed!

If it was a C and he has the certificate from VOSA then fill your boots as long as all the electrics work!  :scared:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: wigit on September 06, 2010, 04:41:27 pm
smells fishy to me  :innocent:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: Top Cat on September 06, 2010, 04:41:59 pm
PM JoesGTI I am sure his will have dropped his in a river or pond at some time.  :smiley:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: MAT ED30 on September 06, 2010, 04:43:41 pm
PM JoesGTI I am sure his will have dropped his in a river or pond at some time.  :smiley:
:signLOL:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: VWKD on September 06, 2010, 04:50:12 pm
Wow this place is impressive.. how many replies in short space of time..

Another thing that sounds odd would the dealer really replace the DSG under warranty if it had been flood damaged ?

Almost seems you could get it and if there are any issues as a result of the flood just pop it back to the dealers and get it fixed under warranty !

Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: Gti_Mad on September 06, 2010, 04:53:04 pm
personally i would steer clear bein an electrician..... yh will have all sorts of problems creeping up on you im afraid
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: LouCyffer on September 06, 2010, 06:32:53 pm
Run an HPI check if you're serious. That will show up any issues such as stolen/recovered, outstanding finance etc. But I'd want the V.I.N, and reg, and sight of the V5C. Remember that the V5C will be changing soon, as so many were stolen & used to shift cloned cars.

Once you have reg & V.I.N I'd ring a vw dealer, they would be able to tell you any warranty work authorised & carried out by VW UK. I'm sure they will also explain that a car on the written off register sure as hell won't be covered by a VW warranty, whether it's Cat B or D. You can also establish history by phoning the previous recorded keeper on the V5C (if there is one). In my experience, most are happy to give you 5 minutes of their time to tell you about their old motor.

If it's priced like that for an 08, there's a problem. I wouldn't p**s on it if it was on fire. Fleabay hides a multitude of bottom feeding low lifes. This guy may not be one, but it doesn't look or feel right.

As these boys say, Cat B is not for repair. This is  :sick:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: JJ on September 06, 2010, 06:42:43 pm
Ad says it's a standard car yet it's got Brembo brakes.  Is it me or does it look like it's been lowered?
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: PDT on September 06, 2010, 06:50:01 pm
Stops on a tanner?  :signLOL:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: edd666999 on September 06, 2010, 06:50:54 pm
Stops on a tanner?  :signLOL:

i assumed this is what chav's called a policeman
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: 182_blue on September 06, 2010, 07:02:05 pm
theres a bolt missing on the close up pic of the brembo too ???
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: PDT on September 06, 2010, 07:04:05 pm
I often judge eBay items and if the description is badly written, it usually turns out that the item has been incorrectly described and is more trouble than it is worth.

Cat b is unlikely, either the seller doesn't have a clue what the car actually is or it's a mistype. Either way 10k for this car? I would consider 7.5-8k but not a penny more. As a cheap car to sell on for a profit only, wouldn't buy it as an everyday car as most flood damaged cars have ongoing problems, hence the insurers refusing to repair
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: Saint Steve on September 06, 2010, 07:11:48 pm
smells fishy to me  :innocent:

Im sure it did once :congrats:
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: no golf clubs at all on September 06, 2010, 08:39:19 pm
Pic 11/11 the blokes got a sponge in his hand... Lol is he still trying to dry it out?
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: BenR on September 06, 2010, 08:51:04 pm
I personally would never ever consider buying a car on the register - might be cheaper at first but id rather put up the cash and buy a straight one!!! cat d, c or b they will never be the same, saw this ad on ebay thought it seemed a bit shady! Steer clear of it...
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: mortygttdi on September 06, 2010, 09:27:37 pm
Ive had my golf for the past 3 years now and its been perfect,  its a cat c extensive front and rear damage...never had a problem and VW have done quite a bit of warranty work on it with no quibbles even told them a few times before that it was cat c write off.

Now and again you do find a good car that is on the register but that eddy owner sounds a bit pished

Darren
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: VWKD on September 07, 2010, 12:14:29 am
OK

got a mail from the seller and it wasn't in CAPS  :grin:


Quote from: Ebay Seller
Hi mate,cat b cars can go back on the road no problem as long as dvla swansea has put a VIC marker on the car,without that marker you will never get a logbook for the car,hence spares only,the car has done approx 5 to 6 thousand miles since we mended it last december,we removed the seats and carpets to completely dry the car out,only the carpet was wet,seats were dry,checked for water in the intercooler and air box,non present ,charged battery and fired straight up,no faults ect.the warranty is still valid,as long as you dont say anything to them of course,the box was a bit jerky on changing gear,rang them up,booked it in,even got a courtesy car ,collected 1 week later,bobs your uncle brand new box fitted no problems..hope this helps

Anyone confirm what he is saying about Cat B being able to be put back on the road ?

Have to say from the comments on here I'd be a bit  :stupid: to consider this and the fact that yet again it's freaking miles away from me, going for a quick squizz and trying to get a take on it/the seller is out of the question.

next.....

Hope you guys don't mind me using you as a sounding board... I certainly feel I'll owe a fair few  :drinking: when I do actually find one.

I'm hoping with the new plate coming out there will be a few more on the market and I've certainly noticed prices do seem to be dropping a bit in the couple of months I've been looking

thanks again to all




Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: CaptainJack on September 07, 2010, 12:37:08 am
 Wouldn't touch that with a barge pole ...In fact, prolly need a barge pole to steer it..

Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: mortygttdi on September 07, 2010, 03:44:58 am
just been reading on piston heads that a cat b is a vehicle that is not to be put back on the road but parts can be salvaged off it,
Also cat b can only be dealt with through a EPA registered dismantaler..one other thing it says is most flood damaged cars are registered has cat b.
So go by what has already been said he has either got his wires crossed with the cat status of the car or he is out to fleece some one?

Darren
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: 182_blue on September 07, 2010, 07:44:37 am
Someone on here might be able to HPI it for you to see its status, as other have said dont touch it IMO.
 To the OP , i personally would save up for a better car instead of looking for all these supposed bargains, if you bought this water damaged one imagine trying to sell it a few years down the line, nobody will want it, look at you know with it, IMO its almost worthless except for parts.
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: no golf clubs at all on September 07, 2010, 08:20:30 am
It's difficult when buying a car we ALL go in with beer goggles on. I bought an accident damaged 3 series years back, saved 3-4k on new but....it drove great until the engine mounts shreared. Whilst this wasn't a significant in terms of cost for the next 2 years I was never happy that I was driving a tainted vehicle.

Btw in my case it was a horse that landed on the bonnet and trashed it. I was young and trying to get into a car I otherwise couldn't really afford.

Glad your coming round. Just walk away less heartache all round.
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: Poppa Dom on September 07, 2010, 09:10:13 am
Simples - walk away, flood damage can cause no end of long term electrical issues.
Title: Re: How much damage could a bit of water do...
Post by: CaptainJack on September 07, 2010, 01:01:13 pm
The truth is that this guy is a flat out liar. You CAN not put a cat B write-off back on the road, ever. That's very clear. His saying you can put it back on "no problem" is bullcrap. By its very definition a cat B can never go back on.


Something incredibly dodgy about all this...