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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: kevinm on September 11, 2010, 04:01:23 pm

Title: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: kevinm on September 11, 2010, 04:01:23 pm
As above. My local dealer say they can transfer over the mileage. And they said they would do it for €60+vat  :happy2:

But they quoted €330+vat+exchange charge for new clocks  (vat is 13.5%)

So are they right?
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: vRStu on September 11, 2010, 04:38:56 pm
The dealer tool VAS cannot change mileage however they may have a suitable tool or they may sub contract out to a 3rd party.
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: kevinm on September 11, 2010, 04:43:55 pm
I said that to him but he said they transfer all the service/mileage data. They have done it on a set of second hand audi clocks...
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 11, 2010, 05:16:18 pm
I was under the impression that they could do this, as could Shark Performance.
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: kevinm on September 11, 2010, 06:29:59 pm
I was under the impression that they could do this, as could Shark Performance.
Shark peformance have vagtacho which can do it but i'm asking about the dealer system.
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: SeanyK on September 11, 2010, 06:34:00 pm
Considering it's a 2 minute job (on pre 2006 clusters) I should imagine most dealers can do it.
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: mortygttdi on September 11, 2010, 08:43:54 pm
Dealers guided VAS system doesn't let the dealer do much now has it is all done by internet connection to germany...So dealer doesn't see the SKC code or transfer of mileage

All they do it plug it in press a button and it connects the data is taken off then the cluster is swapped and the data re-booted back onto the new cluster with every thing that should be there, 

I watched them do my original cluster when it got damaged accidentally on purpose :grin: thank goodness for warranties.

Darren
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: vRStu on September 11, 2010, 09:55:56 pm
Considering it's a 2 minute job (on pre 2006 clusters) I should imagine most dealers can do it.

I think it'd be entertaining to watch you fit a dash insert and set it up correctly in two minutes!!  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 12, 2010, 12:17:57 am
Considering it's a 2 minute job (on pre 2006 clusters) I should imagine most dealers can do it.
Swapping over the clusters is fairly quick'n'easy. It's the coding that takes time. They'll charge for an hour's labour for the entire thing.
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: SeanyK on September 12, 2010, 12:38:55 am
Considering it's a 2 minute job (on pre 2006 clusters) I should imagine most dealers can do it.

I think it'd be entertaining to watch you fit a dash insert and set it up correctly in two minutes!!  :evilgrin:

 :innocent: Slight exageration on my part  :P :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: kevinm on September 12, 2010, 03:55:26 pm
Dealers guided VAS system doesn't let the dealer do much now has it is all done by internet connection to germany...So dealer doesn't see the SKC code or transfer of mileage

All they do it plug it in press a button and it connects the data is taken off then the cluster is swapped and the data re-booted back onto the new cluster with every thing that should be there, 

I watched them do my original cluster when it got damaged accidentally on purpose :grin: thank goodness for warranties.

Darren


So if i gave them a second hand set of highline clocks, could they transfer the mileage?
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: vRStu on September 12, 2010, 04:37:16 pm

So if i gave them a second hand set of highline clocks, could they transfer the mileage?

So far as I am aware, and as I posted above, not with the dealer tool VAS.

Why not put them to the test, if they can do it what's the issue with how they do it??
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: SeanyK on September 12, 2010, 06:04:10 pm
That said, I always thought the mileage was held in 3 places, the ECU, Key and the cluster itself?

Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: kevinm on September 12, 2010, 06:40:10 pm

So if i gave them a second hand set of highline clocks, could they transfer the mileage?

So far as I am aware, and as I posted above, not with the dealer tool VAS.

Why not put them to the test, if they can do it what's the issue with how they do it??

I thought the same, but they are adament they can do it. If i buy a second hand set of clocks and it didnt work i'd be back where i started but €300 down. :sad1:
Title: Re: Can dealers change the mileage on second hand clusters?
Post by: vRStu on September 12, 2010, 07:36:14 pm
That said, I always thought the mileage was held in 3 places, the ECU, Key and the cluster itself?



it's not an issue in this case as we aren't talking about mis-representing the mileage simply adjusting a used cluster to match the car it's being fitted to.  Everything would match.