MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: DSG GTI
Post by: kong86 on September 13, 2010, 02:35:29 pm
Hi

I have a GTI with  DSG

can i switch from D mode to S mode while still driving?? :confused:

or do i have to stop the car and apply the brake before doing so ??

have been getting conflicting info from various sources.. :popcornsoda:

cheers.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Neimad on September 13, 2010, 02:37:32 pm
No need to stop, just switch it from D to S and vice-versa in-motion.

You'll know it's worked because the revs will either raise or fall instantly as it goes down gears when you engage S-mode, or up gears when you engage D-mode.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Richn83 on September 13, 2010, 02:38:06 pm
You can do it on the fly, just push in the selector button and pull the leaver back, but best to make sure its safe to do so as the revs will shoot up as it drops a couple of cogs and will start to fly, so best avoided mid corner  :laugh:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 13, 2010, 03:17:47 pm
^^^^
As others have said - Can be done on the fly.

You can also shift from S straight through D to M. But be aware of your revs.

Also, you can override either D or S at any time by using the paddles to manually select a gear. Having done so, if left in D or S for about 30 seconds without further selections the DSG box of tricks will automatically revert to D (or S).

You can't really break the DSG box or clutches (except by too much torque remapping), so feel relaxed about experimenting to find what you like best - You have lots of options - Enjoy!  :happy2:

Ask away if you have any more DSG questions.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Edition30 on September 13, 2010, 05:30:05 pm
On the fly meaning whilst driving?  :ashamed:

Ive often wondered that even though I dont have a DSG. I most certainly will be trying it out when im in a position to buy such car again.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 13, 2010, 05:39:09 pm

On the fly meaning whilst driving?  :ashamed:

Ive often wondered that even though I dont have a DSG. I most certainly will be trying it out when im in a position to buy such car again.


....Yes, On-the-fly = Whilst driving.

At first DSG was poo-poo'd as plastic Playstation gimmickry but it really is the best of both worlds of automatic and conventional manual if you go into it open-minded and accept it may take longer to become fluid with it. Having done 87k miles I can go on and on about it! Let's just say that I wouldn't consider another car without it or its equivalent.

I think and drive manual and shift gears exactly when I would do in a conventional manual. I only use D for traffic queues and urban cruising but not even M'ways. But for the first couple of thousand miles I only used D!
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Edition30 on September 13, 2010, 05:50:23 pm
Cool, hope that this new job comes through and get myself into a good financial position to indulge. :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 13, 2010, 05:51:16 pm
^^^^
Wishing you luck with the job, Steve  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Edition30 on September 13, 2010, 06:04:39 pm
Thanks, the company have been mentioned in WhiteGTI's latest thread and not in a good light  :ashamed:


Looking forward to it though, my fingers are crossed.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: kong86 on September 13, 2010, 06:24:04 pm
thanks for throwing some light on this for me Red  :drinking:

will go and try it out now,  :driver:


good luck with the job Edition 30 :happy2:


Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Jules86 on September 13, 2010, 06:25:53 pm
That would be mad if you had to pull over  :signLOL:

You can do what you want while moving, set off in D and into M using the stick up and down was my preference (god i miss DSG :( )
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: kong86 on September 13, 2010, 08:08:08 pm

when i bought my mk5 1.6 fsi,  I was specifically told i have to be stationary and have to have my foot on the brake,

(alan day stealers)
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Hurdy on September 13, 2010, 09:00:20 pm

when i bought my mk5 1.6 fsi,  I was specifically told i have to be stationary and have to have my foot on the brake,

(alan day stealers)

Oh dear  :surprised:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Top Cat on September 13, 2010, 09:04:54 pm

when i bought my mk5 1.6 fsi,  I was specifically told i have to be stationary and have to have my foot on the brake,

(alan day stealers)

They are probably getting confused with the launch control. I would read the manual to be honest, it explains the operation fully in there.

The one thing you really don't want to do is knock it into neutral, when cruising up to a set of lights, you must always leave it in a drive mode until fully stopped. You probably already know this, just checking.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: ILoveTuna on September 13, 2010, 09:56:11 pm
Hi

I have a GTI with  DSG

can i switch from D mode to S mode while still driving?? :confused:

or do i have to stop the car and apply the brake before doing so ??

have been getting conflicting info from various sources.. :popcornsoda:

cheers.


I didnt ask this when i first had mine just went and tried all the modes out on the first drive!! Good job you can change without stopping  :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: heavyd on September 13, 2010, 10:17:57 pm
If you do get DSG, buy the TID paddle extensions, makes life much easier, and you'll  be using the paddles all the time :happy2:
OEM ones are a right pain to find when cornering :driver:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Hurdy on September 13, 2010, 10:55:43 pm
If you do get DSG, buy the TID paddle extensions, makes life much easier, and you'll  be using the paddles all the time :happy2:
OEM ones are a right pain to find when cornering :driver:

You like them then I gather :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 13, 2010, 11:36:24 pm
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If you get a bit over extended with the stock paddles you can always resort to nudging the floor stick. I so much prefer the TID's though.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: heavyd on September 14, 2010, 06:09:10 am
If you do get DSG, buy the TID paddle extensions, makes life much easier, and you'll  be using the paddles all the time :happy2:
OEM ones are a right pain to find when cornering :driver:

You like them then I gather :happy2:

Yep, definetly one of the best buys for the car so far :jumping:
Thanks Hurdy for parting with them  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: timmer on September 15, 2010, 06:39:23 pm
You can do it on the fly, just push in the selector button and pull the leaver back, but best to make sure its safe to do so as the revs will shoot up as it drops a couple of cogs and will start to fly, so best avoided mid corner  :laugh:

Do you need to push the selector button to shift between S, D and N? Mine goes between those without (now slightly worried about a fault)
It does explain why i've accidentaly gone into N after a quick blast in S  :surprised:  oops!
Need the button for other positions and/or foot peddle.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 15, 2010, 06:52:03 pm
@ timmer:

No need to push the 'selector' stick knob button between S > < D > < M - It's there as a lock when going from P.

Avoid going in N while on the move. RTFH = Read The Fecking Handbook! (not meant unpleasantly  :happy2:)
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: timmer on September 15, 2010, 07:04:18 pm
Cheers Red, no unpleasantness taken, I've only gone into N once on the move (honest)  :wink:
Least I know it's not broken.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 15, 2010, 07:09:45 pm
^^^^
In driving 87,000 miles I have inevitably gone into N while on the move three times. But I've instantly realised and not floored the throttle < That's what you want to avoid - It'll take it but not do any good.

Still, when you consider how the DSG system protects the clutches from human clutch slipping, DSG is far more durable.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Richn83 on September 15, 2010, 09:08:37 pm
I have to push the selector switch in to move from D to S, but can move from S to D.  Is this the same as yours RR? you seem to be suggesting you can move from D to S like you can from D to M.  :confused:
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 15, 2010, 09:29:41 pm

I have to push the selector switch in to move from D to S, but can move from S to D.  Is this the same as yours RR? you seem to be suggesting you can move from D to S like you can from D to M.  :confused:


....Actually, after posting I wondered if I'd got it right. The whole of DSG shifting is so natural to me now that I haven't thought about it for over 4 years. It might even be the way I naturally grip my knob [Ooops! that didn't sound right].
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: Richn83 on September 15, 2010, 10:52:22 pm
 :signLOL: think everything else you said was spot on, I have a feeling that it requires the selector to go into sport.  But it does get well like changing a normal shifter just habit, and as you have said you generally drive in M so doubt you poke around between D and S much and to be honest apart from overtaking I find S holds too high a gear to be useful in everyday situations with all the torque the TFSI puts out its really not necessary to sit at 3000rpm or above all the time.  So like you lane driving is done in M and poutling and warm up cool down in D.
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 15, 2010, 11:04:26 pm
^^^^
Yep, like you do, I drive mostly in M and paddleshift. I will use S though on very busy fast flowing multi junction roundabouts. Milton Keynes (the world centre for roundabouts!) is a good example. I'll shift from M, quickly through D, to S on approach and then back through to M on acceleration away from the roundabout. I find S useful and also fun in those circumstances. Also, I'd otherwise never use it much.

When I first had the car I only used D and S, using S as a 'gear' for overtaking or during sequences of tight twisties. I didn't like the feel of the oem paddles and much prefer my TID extensions.

DSG rocks!
Title: Re: DSG GTI
Post by: RedRobin on September 15, 2010, 11:10:03 pm
.
Oh, I forgot to say:

If you are in D or S you can override it by using the paddle but if you don't use the paddle again within about 30 seconds the DSG will automatically revert back to D or S according to which it was in (the floor stick is still accordingly selected). That's ok with D but if you get auto reverted back into S it can be quite a surprise on the revs. So best not to override while in S unless you soon shift the stick to D or M.

You won't break anything but it ain't very smooooth.