MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: SteveS on September 17, 2010, 01:46:38 pm
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is it worthy ? or should i put in more costly castrol etc oil?
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My top up bottle is castrol but has a vw badge on it as well?.Same stuff?.
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not sure, its very cheap from VW which seems extremely odd..
not sure what the best oil to put in is. i don't do heavy miles... and need topping up asap
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Hello mate, depends what VW oil you mean, you want to use Quantum Longlife 3 5w30, it's cheap-ish, depending where you go... It's £25-35 for 5 litres if you negotiate with the dealer (or try TPS they will do it for cheap).
I've always used the Quantum oils on my previous SEAT's, that said, a lot of people on here use Castrol EDGE 5w30.
You won't go wrong with either, whichever you can get the best deal on :)
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just got a 1l topup for now, got few k before its next service anyways so keep it happy for now :)
thanks
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Quantum has gone up recently.
I got 5 ltrs last week and it was £49 :fighting: :fighting:
I paid £37 last time :sad1:
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i paid £4 for 1L
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Looks like my local VW dealer is getting a punch in the throat then :fighting:
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Great deal here:
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-1301-castrol-edge-special-offer.aspx (http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-1301-castrol-edge-special-offer.aspx)
Forum discount too!
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signed up, few £ discount, ty.. although says 4L, thought the castrol was 5L
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Guys,
David @ SERE Motors (A SEAT Parts dealer) offers Quantum Synta 3 for £35 inc P&P for 5L
It's actually £25, but he has to send via PF which is £10, but it's still cheaper than any dealer i've ever used! Plus he is brilliant with parts orders too, beating everyones prices. :happy2:
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is it worthy ? or should i put in more costly castrol etc oil?
Do NOT use Quantum Platinum in the GTI - it is NOT 504.00 rated!
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My top up bottle is castrol but has a vw badge on it as well?.Same stuff?.
If that is a litre bottle - the part number is GVW 052 195 M2, retail £15.57, trade £8.56.
But if you wanted exactly the same brew oil in a Castrol bottle with an Audi logo, part number is GAU 052 195 M2, retail £16.04, trade £8.82.
Typical Audi 'premium'! :fighting:
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Hello mate, depends what VW oil you mean, you want to use Quantum Longlife 3 5w30, it's cheap-ish, depending where you go... It's £25-35 for 5 litres if you negotiate with the dealer (or try TPS they will do it for cheap).
I've always used the Quantum oils on my previous SEAT's, that said, a lot of people on here use Castrol EDGE 5w30.
You won't go wrong with either, whichever you can get the best deal on :)
But whilst the Quantum oils are made by Castrol, they categorically are NOT as good as the genuine Castrol branded brews. Just look at the Technical Data Sheets for Quantum LL3 and Castrol Edge 504.00.
Quantum oils are perfectly fine for say a 1.9 TDI plodding up and down the motorway, or by the yummie-mummies in their diesel Tourans on the school runs - but for spanking a high performance mapped/tuned petrol turbo in a GTI - Quantum definately are not the best choice of slippery stuff.
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signed up, few £ discount, ty.. although says 4L, thought the castrol was 5L
Castrol Edge is in either 1 litre or 4 litre packs. The Quantum stuff is 5 litres.
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hmm, so whats the best oil to use then? i dont do high mileage, but dont want to be replacing the oil all the time either
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hmm, so whats the best oil to use then? i dont do high mileage, but dont want to be replacing the oil all the time either
I don't know if you missed the point. The thread title states 'Platinum' oil. This is really not suitable for GTI. Yes, Quantum Platinum is 502.00 rated, which means it can be used in the GTI (but ONLY on T&D servicing). However, the lowest common denomiator 502.00 oils are generally nothing more than glorified mineral oils. 502.00 was never designed for FSI direct injection (and nor were the 1st and 2nd generation VAG longlife oils).
Soooooo - you really, REALLY need to be using a 504.00 oil. I hear your point that you are a low mileage driver, and I sympathise with that issue (I'm relatively low mileage in my RS4 at the mo). However, you do have a technically advanced engine, which even in standard tune is relatively high performance - and yours is modified and re-mapped! For your car (FSI, turbo, modified) - and whilst I don't know your personal driving style, I would imagine :wink: you still like to explore its full potential - then my recommendation would still be to use one of the top quality 504.00 oils such as Castrol Edge 5w30 (or its BP rebrand - BP Visco 7000 5w30), Fuchs Titan GT1 LongLife 3, Motul Specific 504.00 507.00, Pentosin Pento Super Performance 3, or Total Quartz INEO 504-507. If you honestly feel you cant splash out on those premuim brews, then Quantum Longlife 3 5w30 is perfectly acceptable.
But to anyone reading this, never, EVER use Carlube (which GSF and ECP supply) or Comma lubes - in ANY type of car, or even your lawn mower! Neither are certified by Volkswagen, dispite them both making claims they are. And what's even worse, they both claim API certification - which again is blatant lies - you need to be officially certified by the API to make these claims, API have an online searchable database - and neither are licensed! Anyone who knows anything about motor oils will tell you that API standards are grossly low compared to European oil standards (ACEA) - and if an oil can't even meet those lowly API standards - then how dare they claim they can meed VW (and/or BMW, MB, GM, Reno, PSA, etc) OEM standards. SHAME on GSF and ECP for stocking and selling this shyte! <rant over>
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Hi TT,
ive read a fair few of your posts regarding the correct oil with great interest!
My Ed30 recently went in for a 20k (T&D) service at the stealers. Now, after reading numerous posts about the vw technical bulletin, i just assumed all stealers use LL oil on all servicing (a bit naive of me, i know).
After i got the car home, i noticed in the service book, the box "long life oil used" was ticked no. I didnt really think much of it and left it at that.
I had to ring up the service department today on a separate issue and i remembered to ask what oil they had used - they said platinum oil, i quizzed and said "arent you supposed to use LL oil now" and the guy said "no".
I did panic after reading this thread about platinum oil not being suitable for the GTI but after reading the spec for platinum oil, i take it the point you were making TT was that although it could be used, its not the most suitable?
Its a bit difficult to go back to VW and complain as they have done the bare minimum. so, would you advise that after say 5k-6k miles, i take the car to an independent garage and get them to change to Castrol Edge 5w 30 and change the oil filter?
Im locked into a service plan so the car will be back at the stealers next year for the interim service - do i request that they use Castrol Edge 5w 30 or dont the stealers entertain requests like that?
Cheers TT -sorry for the long winded post!
Rich