MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: daz5182 on September 29, 2010, 10:11:48 am

Title: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 29, 2010, 10:11:48 am
Will it go straight in? Will i have the battery drain issue?

Really want ot upgrade the unit but don't want a flat battery and want it to go straight in no issues.

Cheers
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Garth on September 29, 2010, 10:33:58 am
What is the current spec of your car?

I have an 05 plate and the RCD510 went straight in mine with no battery drain. It may have something to do with the spec of the current audio system as most people are reporting battery drain on these cars with that head unit.

For reference, my car already had the RCD500 with VW soundpack (which might be why I don't get the issue).
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 29, 2010, 11:16:03 am
it has currently got the 300 in, just the normal cd player!  It sounds good i think but looks crap and doesn't even play mp3..... I might just try one and see....
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Richn83 on September 29, 2010, 11:49:05 am
Someone is selling an RNS510 at a very good price, and will include the FW downgrade to pre-battery drain issues might be worth a look as it gives you nav function over the RCD plus other features like a HDD. 
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 29, 2010, 11:51:10 am
yeah cheers for that mate will have a look, if not post me a link pal..... thanks mate
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 29, 2010, 11:56:28 am
had a look and i can't find the link, any ideas? Ta
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Richn83 on September 29, 2010, 11:58:22 am
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18603.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18603.0.html)

This one mate, take a look ut really is the best bit of kit to change the inside of your car, and would normally be much more expensive, paid over £600 for mine back in March.....
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2010, 12:05:27 pm
I have an RCD510 for sale, it was removed during PDI and is in mint condition. I have the code for it.

I am after £300 plus £15 postage for it.

Let me know if your interested.

Thanks

Dan
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 29, 2010, 12:07:41 pm
Thanks for the link mate and that is a great price for that piece of kit, i just haven't got the money at the min so the RDC 510 will have to do....
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 29, 2010, 12:08:55 pm
Hi Dan,

thanks for that offer mate, yeah i'm interested but not for that price I'm affraid, they are going for a lot less on ebay pal.

If you want to get back to me with a lower price then email me at daz5182@gmail.com

Cheers
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2010, 12:21:04 pm
Hi

Make me an offer then if you want.

Thanks

Dan
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 30, 2010, 10:07:15 am
Right i really want one of these in my car but I'm getting really realy confused with it all.

I have contacted a few companies with regards to fitment and they have said that it will fit but it needs some other elements to be sorted,

They say that i need a change of the "gateway" and code the radio, and fit that costs £300 + VAT

or

Install an "interface" to solve the battery drain issue and fit and code for £250 + VAT

All the quotes seem to be about the same.

I want one but do not want to pay through the nose......

Thanks
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Garth on September 30, 2010, 10:13:04 am
I bought one of these units for £300, which was a great price I felt as they were going for nearly £600 at the time. The only other thing I bought was an aerial adapter from VW which cost £15

It all slots in without problems and even an idiot could fit it themselves. IF you do experience battery drain (which I don't), then you would need to buy a new CAN gateway, which again is easy to replace and costs about £70.

Anyone wanting to charge more than £50 for an install is taking the piss!
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 30, 2010, 01:49:55 pm
i thought this......

Where is that gateway thing located?

does the car need coding?

Starting to blow my mind all this!

Ta
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Garth on September 30, 2010, 02:01:04 pm
i thought this......

Where is that gateway thing located?

does the car need coding?

Starting to blow my mind all this!

Ta
CAN gateway should be under the dashboard (drivers side) on your car. Do a search on here as someone posted a how to for this.

My RCD510 needed coding as I have the VW soundpack but other than that, you can probably get away with not coding anything at all assuming there are no additional components required and you have the keycode number for teh new head unit.
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: Richn83 on September 30, 2010, 02:05:16 pm
I guess the first thing is where are you based, as a local forum member might install it for a beer.  As you might need some coding, so VCDS cable to interface with the car.

The can gateway can be in one of two places, on older cars they are behind the ashtray on the center tunnel for the exhaust, on older cars they are up by the peddle box, they are a small module that controls the information transfer between all the computers in the car.

The issue can be that the older modules dont have the right coding to tell the third generation stereos to power down and will continue to draw power leaving you with a flat battery.  So the unit will work and if you use the car regularly enough you might be alright but if you do have issues the replacement can gateway can be bought for £70, this you will need to re-code but a local forum member should be able to help you out.

The only advantage with an RNS over and RCD is that they were introduced prior to the change in the Can gateways so with certain firmware they can run without battery drain issues, so it may actually be cheaper to buy an RNS in the short term rather than an RCD plus gateway.

Especially as it will be much easier to fit the RNS than RCD and gateway.

If your near Bromley or somewhere in the Surrey area I would be happy to help you out.
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on September 30, 2010, 08:32:50 pm
Hi mate, I'm from Nottinghamshire but would travel for help and the right unit, i'd rather pay the fuel than pay through the nose with these jokers that want a small fortune from me.

I'll start to have a gander for the better head unit then, I know there is one for sale on here but might not be able to stretch that far this month.  Sounds like it might be a plan.... really want to upgrade though think it will make the world of difference.

why will the better one work with no battery drain? What is firmware? and will it work with everything like the sat nav and stuff?

sorry to sound daft but not got a clue
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: simonp on September 30, 2010, 08:48:47 pm
Did you used to have a red Astra VXR, Daz? Your username seems familiar, think I remember you from AON.
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: SteveP on September 30, 2010, 09:14:35 pm
Daz, I am only a few junctions down the M1 so PM me if you want and I can help sort all this out for you  :happy2:
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on October 01, 2010, 09:07:42 am
Hi SimonP, yeah i had a couple of VXRs mate, you gone over to the golf too then?

Did i meet you in person pal at PVS or anything?  What did you drive at the time?

Cheers
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on October 01, 2010, 09:08:24 am
Mr SteveP you are a legend, I'll drop you a PM, Thanks matey......
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: simonp on October 01, 2010, 11:08:03 am
Maybe PVS, but I think it might have been one of the 888 open days. I had one of those mapped diesels that the derv boys thought were as fast as VXRs. I wasn't one of them though! LOL
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on October 01, 2010, 11:29:59 am
ha ha, well nice to see you on here mate, what you got now? I've gone for a gt tdi..... i think it is as fast as a GTi now! ha

Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: simonp on October 01, 2010, 11:48:36 am
I've got an R32. :laugh:

This thread caught my eye coz I've just bought an RCD510 off fleabay. I'm just gonna fit the thing and hope for the best with the battery!

I test drove the petrol GT a couple of years back, which went well. It was the 1.4 twin-charged jobby with 170PS, but I went for a Clio 197 in the end. Enjoyed having a naturally aspirated car, so the R was the only choice in a Golf unless I went for a 1.6S. Sod that! :grin:
Title: Re: RCD 510 in a golf gt 56 plate
Post by: daz5182 on October 01, 2010, 12:03:36 pm
nice one pal, yeah the 1.4 gt is good for what it is, i prefer the derv though..... Nice that you've got the r32 though, very nice choice, i'd have one but too tight with the pennies these days, i did my bit for fuel shares when i had the Astra.....