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Title: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 03, 2010, 08:38:11 pm
Just checked the oil and the bonnet won't slam shut. (it rests like it was just popped from inside).

The dealer changed the pull mech under warranty last year and it has been really tight to open and a lot of play in the release since then.

Anayway I've got a flight to catch in the morning so need to know how to properly shut the bonnet until I get back.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: stealthwolf on October 03, 2010, 09:10:04 pm
Wd40 in the bonnet mechanism?
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: v2brett on October 03, 2010, 09:31:17 pm
as above and try pulling the bonnet release handle again
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Greeners on October 03, 2010, 09:38:14 pm
Check that the pull handle inside the car is pushed back into the rest position.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: G4V VW on October 03, 2010, 09:48:58 pm
Mine started like that and after a few goes pulling the bonnet lever it used to shut....until that is it stopped and i got angry and ending up pulling the bonnet lever to hard and snapped the lever. Changed the lever and bonnet mechanism in the end and now smooth and easy to open and shut  :smiley:
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 03, 2010, 09:56:35 pm
Thanks for thetips guys, tried them all, but no joy, starting to think that they neveer changed it at all.

Leaving the WD soak then try again in an hour.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: RedRobin on October 03, 2010, 10:19:00 pm
^^^^
I've had that exact problem. I reckon you'll find that the spring mechanism in the unit mounted in the slam panel is at fault. It's actually a known issue on Mk5's and the only longterm solution is to replace the whole lock unit. Meanwhile you'll have to fiddle with a screwdriver or similar to 'spring' it. So check all your fluids, close the bonnet, and don't open it again until at your dealer with a replacement part.

A worse version of this problem is if you can't open the bonnet.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Drapoon on October 03, 2010, 10:26:39 pm
I struggle to open my bonnet, tried soaking mechanism in duck oil but no joy


Was v embarrassing when I used the lifts at my dads work to change the oil :ashamed:

I though it might be due to my ocd jetwashing habits drying out the spring :signLOL:
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: mortygttdi on October 03, 2010, 10:47:28 pm
there is 3 bolt/screws holding the bonnet mech in loosen them spray loads of wd in and shut the bonnet until you get back home you can sort it out when you get back.

Darren :happy2:
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 03, 2010, 11:18:43 pm
there is 3 bolt/screws holding the bonnet mech in loosen them spray loads of wd in and shut the bonnet until you get back home you can sort it out when you get back.

Darren :happy2:

All I can see on the slam panel are 3 screws either side by the headlights. Where abouts are the 3 you mean?
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Andy on October 03, 2010, 11:28:48 pm
here is a pic of mine 54 plate gttdi..not sure if its the same as yours thou..you can see the bolts Darren is on about
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcc20%2Fmaxitrol%2FIMG_0306.jpg&hash=7664bc981a449ccc711cb3e4413eef311e821544)
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 03, 2010, 11:31:12 pm
Ah so its grill off?

Need to find a quick how to on that?
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: mortygttdi on October 03, 2010, 11:35:10 pm
The grill

2 hex screws on top and 2 under the reg plate you will see them if you get on your knees and peep up under the reg.


Darren
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: RedRobin on October 03, 2010, 11:39:13 pm
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Hurdy managed to fiddle about with mine with a screwdriver without removing any grills etc. We were at the Nurburgring at the start of a private trackday, so mighty inconvenient and expensive if we hadn't sorted it.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Andy on October 03, 2010, 11:39:49 pm
thier was a topic on this i think
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6684.0.html
oops Daz beat me to it
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 03, 2010, 11:49:26 pm
Thanks for all the replies, however I've decided to call it a day and sort it when I come back as I've got to be up early. Don't want to risk taking it driving on the M'way with bonnet popped and unattended in airport car park.

I'll take the wifes car tommorrow and she can use the Golf if it rains (she walks if its not), and her trip (school run) is only 0.5 mile each way.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: RedRobin on October 04, 2010, 08:07:48 am
^^^^
Thanks for the Thank You, Rob - Always appreciated  :drinking:

Just an added note: It's academic but my VW dealer said the problem is usually due to corrosion - Probably road salts etc. Keeping it lubed will help but lubing your hood mech is not something you'd necessarily think of doing. He also said they'd had about 5 cases of this problem in the last 18 months and kept a bonnet lock in stock. He knew what I was talking about as soon as I mentioned my problem.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: scotta on October 04, 2010, 11:15:29 pm
One thing you might have to do is disconnect the bonnet catch sensor if your leaving it to stop the alarm going off. Its on the drivers side next to the headlight. just an electrical plug. No pics sorry.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: RedRobin on October 04, 2010, 11:50:16 pm
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I used "my bonnet won't close" as an excuse to fit AeroCatches. Any excuse, eh  :rolleye:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FAeroCatch1.jpg&hash=4620c27a42c04b18747b44fb2fe59d131764254d)

However, an unsecure carbon bonnet is a bit of a worry [said he, looking for even more justification].
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 05, 2010, 02:27:33 pm
Update - The problems is not sorted and I didn't use my car for obvious reasons and am returning home today.

Has anyone got any info on a fix i.e. how much is a new mech, how long/how much does a dealer take/charge to fit and is a DIY install possible. Just asking these Q's as a back up as I've got the car booked in with the dealer who claimed to fix this problem under warranty back in Feb this year. The warranty has since expired but I am hoping they can sort this out as there may be years warranty on all parts and labour. In fact I'm gonna phone VW Cust Services and find out.
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: RedRobin on October 05, 2010, 05:39:02 pm
^^^^
In April this year my friendly VW dealer charged me £20.14 for the replacement lock (1K1823509E) plus £25.50 for labour = £45.64 excl vat.

HTH,
Robin
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 05, 2010, 07:16:49 pm
^^^^
In April this year my friendly VW dealer charged me £20.14 for the replacement lock (1K1823509E) plus £25.50 for labour = £45.64 excl vat.

HTH,
Robin

So judging by that it seems that the job may take 15 or so mins by a pro (based on most dealers not charge £100 an hour). So maybe I could do it in an hour, I'll investigate tommorrow in the daylight now I'm not in a rush as I was Sunday night. :happy2:
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: RedRobin on October 05, 2010, 07:39:43 pm
^^^^
Mine doesn't charge me £100 an hour!!
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Rob GTI on October 07, 2010, 12:32:38 pm
ALL SORTED.

I took out the mechanism last night and right enough it was seized. So headed off to my pre-booked appointment with the stealers where they confirmed it. They tried to charge me the parts and as a goodwill gesture the labour was free. Although in the end I didn't pay for the parts either as when I was in earlier in the year when covered by warranty I had a new pull handle fitted because there was a lot of play. This didnt solve the problem but the new mech did. I therefore claimed that they fitted the incorrect parts when covered by warranty and had it all done FOC.  :happy2:
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: ub7rm on October 07, 2010, 01:07:36 pm
^^^^
Mine doesn't charge me £100 an hour!!

Thats about the rate charged in Aberdeen when you add the VAT  :sad1:

Their fixed price items like servicing, brake pads etc are competitive but as soon as they working on the clock the estimates I've had from there are eye watering...
Title: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED - Bonnet wont close
Post by: Pablos007 on October 07, 2010, 01:24:29 pm
Another topic thread along the same lines - http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4163.0.html