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Title: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 07, 2010, 02:05:22 pm
Hello,

My first time on this forum. I'm after some advice regaring my steering wheel airbag.

Someone broke into my car and stole my steering wheel airbag. I've purchased a replacement airbag and it's on its way to me. From what I can see, the airbag seems to be held in by two clips that are releasable from behind the steering wheel. But it seems that 1 clip was broken by the thief.

So my first question is: Do I have to also replace the steering wheel just for this clip? or can I just do a custom job like a bolt and nut or a zip tie?

The airbag malfunction light is on. I have VAGCOM and I know how to reset that after i complete the job.

My second question is: Because the car has an airbag malfunction detected, when i put the new airbag on, is there a chance that it might end up deploying? I've read somewhere that I should first disconnect negative terminal on the battery, wait 30minutes, put the airbag on, then put the key in and leave on ON position before connecting the negative terminal. Is this process correct? If so, can someone tell me why exactly we need to put the ignition on ON postion before connecting negative terminal again?

Oh and my last question is: Whats the best way to prevent the airbag being stolen again? I'm considering getting a steering lock device. Any particular recommendations?

Many thanks in advance for any help
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: TonyZed on October 07, 2010, 02:50:29 pm
I can't give you any answers on fitting, but I'm sure someone will be along shortly !

However I'm intrigued to know how they got into your car, didn't the alarm go off? :confused:

TonyZ
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 07, 2010, 06:31:17 pm
They broke the glass and got in. Alarm did go off but it was in the middle of the night by the time I realised it was mine they were gone. Seems like such a easy process to nick the airbag.

I'm wondering if a steering wheel lock device would help. It should deter them and possibly slow them down aswell I guess
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: stealthwolf on October 07, 2010, 10:16:38 pm
I think it depends on:
1. Whether a steering lock will fit (the ones that cover the whole wheel are problematic for some wheels, not sure about the GTI)
2. How desperate they are - it'll slow them down by a few seconds if they really want it.

I'd be worried if they came back so definitely try something.
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 12, 2010, 05:41:02 pm
Hi

my first post on here too

In regard to your 1st question
If the retaining lug on the steering wheel is broken then you would need a new steering wheel. Don't try to fix it with any sort of modification.

Yes you should disconnect the battery Negative, no need to wait. when you do reconnect the battery make sure no one is in the car and turn the ignition on from outside the car. After that you should be able to switch the MIL of in the dash

Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Andy on October 12, 2010, 05:44:42 pm
welcome to the forum Eddie..bout time you signed up on this forum :signLOL:
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 12, 2010, 07:22:14 pm
welcome to the forum Eddie..bout time you signed up on this forum :signLOL:

Hi Andy

The odd thing is I didn't know about it till Scott (Golfman) sent me the link for it

Ed
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: apollo13 on October 12, 2010, 08:01:01 pm
Eddie fancy seeing you here!

Just a quick question, do you have a fault logged after fitting the mk6 wheel?

Iv not got the print out handy but im sure it said 'controller incorrectly coded' but it all works fine.

Any ideas?

Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 12, 2010, 08:20:34 pm
Hi
No faults when I fitted my mk6 mfsw
what coding have you used?
also are your stalks the newer versions with more graphics on them?

Ed
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: gti265 on October 12, 2010, 08:53:27 pm
why did someone steel an airbag??
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: apollo13 on October 12, 2010, 08:56:37 pm
Hi mate,

 I used the same coding as you posted on mkvs, apart from the cruise which i dont have.

Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 12, 2010, 09:06:10 pm
Hi
so you should have 000502
did you clear the fault to see if it comes back?
are your stalks the newer versions?
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: apollo13 on October 12, 2010, 09:15:51 pm
Iv not got the newer stalks, did you change yours then?

Cant check the coding at the moment im at work but like i said it was the same as yours but without cc.
Everything works as it should just cant clear the fault.
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: bacillus on October 12, 2010, 09:25:48 pm
hmm, a little off topic but I thought doubling clicking the remote lock function deadlocked the doors making entry into the car very difficut.
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 12, 2010, 09:34:09 pm
Iv not got the newer stalks, did you change yours then?

Cant check the coding at the moment im at work but like i said it was the same as yours but without cc.
Everything works as it should just cant clear the fault.

I changed mine, as I bought a new Cruise stalk. I know the old style cruise stalk doesn't work with the mk6 controller. try different coding options to see if you can get rid of the fault.
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: apollo13 on October 12, 2010, 09:54:58 pm
I never bothered with the cruise in the end, i dont drive it enough!

Ill have a play about with the coding and see what happens, but from memory i dont think there was any other options from what iv got.
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 13, 2010, 09:20:05 am
In regard to your 1st question
If the retaining lug on the steering wheel is broken then you would need a new steering wheel. Don't try to fix it with any sort of modification.

Yes you should disconnect the battery Negative, no need to wait. when you do reconnect the battery make sure no one is in the car and turn the ignition on from outside the car. After that you should be able to switch the MIL of in the dash

Eddie, thanks for your reply. can you tell me what the retaining lug looks like? Only thing I can see on the steering wheel is a big torx style screw that holds the steering wheel on and two plastic clips, one on the left and one on the right. One of these clips are broken.

And in regards to reconnecting the battery after disconnecting, I should only turn the ignition from outside the car after i've connected the battery back? not before i reconnect the battery?
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: edd666999 on October 13, 2010, 09:40:29 am
Reconnect the battery go round and turn ignition on. Either and anyway won't deploy the air bag (from my experience)
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 13, 2010, 05:35:51 pm
Hi
look half down the page of this link and you will see the lug is circled in yellow

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a5/paddle-shifter-steering-wheel-swap.htm

Ed
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 15, 2010, 09:35:59 am
Hi
look half down the page of this link and you will see the lug is circled in yellow

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a5/paddle-shifter-steering-wheel-swap.htm

Ed


Thanks Ed,  :smiley:
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 16, 2010, 03:42:21 pm
Ed, thanks for your help.

I've got the tabs to install the airbag. I'm trying to install the airbag but don't know which way to feed the small wire. The big wire goes trough the hole into it's socke. And spins with the steering wheel. But where does the small black 5 pin connector go? There looks like a connector on the left of the steering wheel but I'm not sure if the wire is long enough to get there or how to feed the wire to that place

Any help would be great thanks
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 16, 2010, 06:09:20 pm
I just installed the airbag and can't seem to find where the second small black colour connector connects to. So I just connected the yellow part of the harness and plugged in the car. Only problem now is that the horn doesn't seem to work.

So now I am assuming that the small black connector is the horn or something, but I'm having trouble finding where I should connect it to

Any help please?
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 16, 2010, 06:18:11 pm
I just installed the airbag and can't seem to find where the second small black colour connector connects to. So I just connected the yellow part of the harness and plugged in the car. Only problem now is that the horn doesn't seem to work.

So now I am assuming that the small black connector is the horn or something, but I'm having trouble finding where I should connect it to

Any help please?

Hi
by the sounds off it the loom which you have is for a MFSW. I take it your steering wheel is just a standard one with no buttons.

Ed
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 16, 2010, 06:24:54 pm
Yes my steering wheel is normal without buttons? That's what I thought maybe it's for the buttons so that's why I left out the black connector but the horn ain't working

Any ideas?

Thanks
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 16, 2010, 08:48:16 pm
I've managed to reset airbag light via VAGCOM.

Ed, I definitely think you are correct. The wiring harness I seem to have on the airbag is for the MFSW but my steering wheel is not a MFSW. I need to figure out how to get the horn to work. I've read somewhere that it's possible to make some changes with VAGCOM to get the car to accept the harness.

Any ideas anyone? Or do I have to change the wiring harness? If so, does anyone have the part number for the wiring harness without the MFSW?

Thanks
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: Eddie-NL on October 16, 2010, 10:41:37 pm
I've managed to reset airbag light via VAGCOM.

Ed, I definitely think you are correct. The wiring harness I seem to have on the airbag is for the MFSW but my steering wheel is not a MFSW. I need to figure out how to get the horn to work. I've read somewhere that it's possible to make some changes with VAGCOM to get the car to accept the harness.

Any ideas anyone? Or do I have to change the wiring harness? If so, does anyone have the part number for the wiring harness without the MFSW?

Thanks

Hi
i don't think you can make changes to make the horn work on the harness you have.  I wouldn't risk trying to modify the wiring as it could prove expensive if you get it wrong. I may have a spare loom which I could send you in exchange if you want.
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 16, 2010, 10:50:14 pm
i don't think you can make changes to make the horn work on the harness you have.  I wouldn't risk trying to modify the wiring as it could prove expensive if you get it wrong. I may have a spare loom which I could send you in exchange if you want.

Ed,

Thanks for your reply. I'd love to accept your offer for exchanging the looms. so the loom you have will work on a standard 3 spoke steering wheel? Do i simply just remove the loom that is currently connected to the airbag and then install this loom? I cannot seem to send pm's so how do we go about exchanging?
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: vRStu on October 16, 2010, 10:54:46 pm
One more post and you can PM  :drinking:
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 16, 2010, 10:56:18 pm
One more post and you can PM  :drinking:

Really? so this should work :)
Title: Re: Steering Wheel Airbag
Post by: john84 on October 16, 2010, 11:18:59 pm
Ed, I've sent you a pm