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Title: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: james550213 on October 15, 2010, 07:13:39 am
3 months ago my wife parked near a kerb and felt something through the steering wheel, so she got out to have a look,
this what she found,
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this was the damage to my wheel,
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this was bad, but add to that, the fact that the wheels were old a few days old after VW changed them all, due to white worm on my old wheels!!

I was a little bit upset but thought I would take lots of photo's and show the council to see if they would sort it out.
HOW WRONG I WAS!
They said it could take up to 3 months for a decision, and it did they sent me a letter 2-3 days before the 3 months were up!
In the letter they told me how they do a annual inspection on the highways and in 'THEIR OPINION the council's inspection and repair system is a reasonable one and as a result, the accident cannot be said to have occurred due to any fault on the council's part. Therefore we cannot meet the claim as our customer has a valid section 58 defence under the highways act 1980 in place. Liabilty is denied.'
Not sure what to do now but made me laugh as the kerb stone has been repair straight away!


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Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: h4rdy on October 15, 2010, 07:57:27 am
Take them to the small claims court.

Likelyhood is that they won't contest and pay up.

They expect you to go away now but don't give up.
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: Top Cat on October 15, 2010, 09:58:46 am
I too would give the small claims court ago.  :happy2:

Saying that your wifey was seriously close to that curb even if the bolt was not there.  :scared:
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: Hedge on October 15, 2010, 11:26:53 am
Saying that your wifey was seriously close to that curb even if the bolt was not there.  :scared:

My thoughts exactly. That bolt must only be 10 or 15mm high, which unless she is Russ Swift, means the potential for disaster was always there.
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: skifast on October 15, 2010, 12:15:28 pm
check out  potholes.co.uk  tells you how to make a claim
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: RobH on October 15, 2010, 12:37:45 pm
The fact that they have repaierd the curb should tell you something though. If it is up to standard as they say in there letter, why bother repairing the curb :confused:

Small claims court ftw :happy2:
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: vRStu on October 15, 2010, 01:13:06 pm
Small Claims Court from me too.

Pictures clearly show an 'obstruction' and as above, having been recently repaired is almost as good as an admittance.
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: gulfstream11 on October 15, 2010, 03:37:37 pm
I totally agree with the above comments.. I would definately be paying a solicitor a visit..
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: edd666999 on October 15, 2010, 03:46:38 pm
personally....IMO id not follow it up, If i hit that id blame myself not the council, its like driving over a nail or hitting your wing mirror on something.

Not what i would describe as a pothole....

BUT im not saying you shouldn't as i dont know the rules behind what you can claim off and whos fault it really is, i just dont agree with the country becoming a complain/sue to get your way society.

i dont mean any negative vibes by this post btw!
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: skifast on October 15, 2010, 07:10:29 pm
all claims for damage or personal injury on highways pavements etc come under the same national code of practice.so wether you have hit a pothole fallen down an open grate in the pavement or tripped over a raised flagstone or hit an obstruction sticking out of the kerb the claims prosess is the same.
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: Matthew. on October 15, 2010, 07:17:52 pm
As above Small Claims Court mate. It really boils my blood how unreasonable the councils are about this sort of thing.

About 6 months ago I was driving down a country road, national speedlimit by the way, but only doing 40-45mph. I hit a pot hole which was so deep it snapped a spring in half and bent the front wishbones....

They refused to pay up, and I didnt bother pursuing.  :fighting:
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: scooba on October 15, 2010, 10:25:03 pm
Last year I had a claim the council contractor was flailing the hedges on the forest road and completley covered my car with wood causing me to move over clipping the kerb,I went home and phoned the highways and they sent a inspector out and he called me back and agreed it was as i had said and sent me a claims form.They explained it takes up to 90 days to resolve so on day 91 i was on the phone ,no record of who went out etc etc etc ,I ended up giving up and paying for the refurb myself


In my opinion you would be wasting your time
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: h4rdy on October 15, 2010, 11:55:42 pm
Anything over £50 in the small claims.

How much is a wheel at VW?

£350 + £150 for tyre?

Alignment?

Then get it repaired!

Did I say that out loud!
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: edd666999 on October 16, 2010, 10:25:55 am
h4rdy your only screwing yourself over with suggestions like that, the money he is trying to get comes out of your tax!
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: SO8 on October 16, 2010, 10:32:10 am
Maybe I am old fashioned ... and I would be p***ed off if I scraped that .... but isn't it one of those things ?    It just wouldn't occur to me that I could get the money back for touching it - I would view it as down to me.

It isn't quite the same as a pothole ... though I can't see why it is there.  I would just pay for it.  If a drain cover had been left off by the council and I buckled a wheel on it then I see that as a bit different .... but a visible bolt, albeit in an odd place .... that is probably sticking out no more than 1cm ???  

Odd place but there to see.  Your wife must have been soooooo close to the kerb  :scared:   I would make sure she parks so far away she needs a drawbridge to reach the path  :wink:
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: Gene Hunt on October 16, 2010, 10:43:25 am
As above very strange place for a nut & bolt??.
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: skifast on October 16, 2010, 10:47:55 am
a friend of mines son hit a pothole which did over £1200 of damage (big pothole!)after the usual section58 defence he paid a solicitor to take it on .the information he got from the council showed this pothole had been reported to them many times over a period of weeks before his son hit it including one from a cyclist who had hit it and been thrown off his bike.still the council would not admit liability.So he took them to court using a barrister.the council argued that they simply could not deal with every complaint immediately but that they delt with them in a reasonable time(what is a reasonable time??)
the judge found in favour of the council!
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: h4rdy on October 16, 2010, 02:11:55 pm
h4rdy your only screwing yourself over with suggestions like that, the money he is trying to get comes out of your tax!

I would rather it went towards a fellow working GTI owner than....................?
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: CaptainJack on October 16, 2010, 02:29:23 pm
Yet park in the wrong bay, a little out of the white lines, make an honest mistake and they'll have one of their uniformed creatures stick a hundred quid - 50 if you pay within two weeks, hooray - bill on your windscreen faster than a New York minute.

Councils see motorists simply in terms of revenue..cash cows to be milked. Extract as much as you can and give as little back as possible.

Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: james550213 on October 17, 2010, 12:14:47 am
I agree with some of things said like parking so close to the kerb!! It's not worth the risk. When we pay sooooo much for road tax so our highways are in good condition, it does get under my skin because they just want to hide behind their law books!
I thought they might have been a bit more understanding and come out with some kind of offer even if it was half the cost!
STUPID ME!

Been in touch with C.A.B. they have given me some options to try so will post up when I have news, just in case anyone else has any problems.
Title: Re: Damged Wheel Council NOT accepting liability
Post by: v2brett on October 17, 2010, 12:37:05 am
sorry to read about that mate and even worse for it to happen on fresh wheels.    i think the bolt is something to do with finding levels in the area, like when you see a guy using a camera on a stand and another guy further down the road holding a measuring stick.

hope you get it sorted fella