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Title: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Andy on October 28, 2010, 04:03:22 pm
i had a mk6 golf in to day for a tyre and i like the look of the new clocks just wondering if its possible to fit them in a  54 plate mk5 golf
 LINK  (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK6-CLOCK-SPEEDO-CLUSTER_W0QQitemZ300474807853QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=159613231307&rvr_id=159613231307&cguid=a29afd691290a0e2032451e4fe023c84)
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: joesgti on October 28, 2010, 04:05:39 pm
the mk5 clocks are fairly easy to take apart so you may be able to swap the faces and needles over, but it would light up red and white.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Richn83 on October 28, 2010, 04:55:57 pm
your best bet would be sciroocco clocks as they have the same form factor as the MK5 but with a design similar to the MK6.  One of the big issues with the white maxidot screens/computers is they run on the new BAP protocol so you will have issues getting them to talk to your car without changing alot of the computers.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Garth on October 28, 2010, 05:14:22 pm
It can be done as the Bora was available (in Mexico I think) with a mk5 interior and mk6 dials and heater controls. You'd need all the relevent electronic modules as well. I was considering it but since I'm selling my car I abandoned the idea
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on October 28, 2010, 08:33:27 pm
i had a mk6 golf in to day for a tyre and i like the look of the new clocks just wondering if its possible to fit them in a  54 plate mk5 golf
 LINK  (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK6-CLOCK-SPEEDO-CLUSTER_W0QQitemZ300474807853QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=159613231307&rvr_id=159613231307&cguid=a29afd691290a0e2032451e4fe023c84)
Those clocks are for a DIESEL!  :wink:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Andy on October 28, 2010, 10:51:31 pm
i had a mk6 golf in to day for a tyre and i like the look of the new clocks just wondering if its possible to fit them in a  54 plate mk5 golf
 LINK  (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK6-CLOCK-SPEEDO-CLUSTER_W0QQitemZ300474807853QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=159613231307&rvr_id=159613231307&cguid=a29afd691290a0e2032451e4fe023c84)
Those clocks are for a DIESEL!  :wink:
i hope so shaun cause mine is a diesel :signLOL:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on October 28, 2010, 10:56:44 pm
i had a mk6 golf in to day for a tyre and i like the look of the new clocks just wondering if its possible to fit them in a  54 plate mk5 golf
 LINK  (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK6-CLOCK-SPEEDO-CLUSTER_W0QQitemZ300474807853QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=159613231307&rvr_id=159613231307&cguid=a29afd691290a0e2032451e4fe023c84)
Those clocks are for a DIESEL!  :wink:
i hope so shaun cause mine is a diesel :signLOL:
Ahhhh - didn't know that! :ashamed:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Andy on October 28, 2010, 11:01:05 pm
No worries mate..Really like the new clocks but i think it will be expensive to get them to work properly
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 28, 2010, 11:29:20 pm
Maxitrol,

I have a set of clocks from a eos coming my way, they have the white and black highline.

I got them cheap so was going to see if i could put the front dial portion of the cluster on the back part of my existing cluster which is also highline. Purely an experiment.

 I have white dial lighting in my existing highline cluster due to an led swap.

Lee.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Andy on October 28, 2010, 11:34:11 pm
Maxitrol,

I have a set of clocks from a eos coming my way, they have the white and black highline.

I got them cheap so was going to see if i could put the front dial portion of the cluster on the back part of my existing cluster which is also highline. Purely an experiment.

 I have white dial lighting in my existing highline cluster due to an led swap.

Lee.
like the sound of that Lee have you got any pics
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 28, 2010, 11:38:32 pm
Hi mate,

Im afraid i havnt, im going to do a load of pics once iv done the skyline led tailight mod!!

Hopefully next week.

Im sure someone on here has done it though??? It just looks like the new displays but with a red highline instead of black!!

My other half hates it! she liked the blue so i might be changing back, in which case they might come up for sale  :happy2:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on October 29, 2010, 04:20:20 pm
This sounds interesting but I actually prefer the blue and red  :happy2:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Garth on October 29, 2010, 04:34:03 pm
This sounds interesting but I actually prefer the blue and red  :happy2:
I don't... which is why I replaced all the blue LED's in my car with white:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgarthfred%2FDials_and_LEDs%2FImage0249.jpg&hash=735446811fd2d0b1d3bc8e09205deb9c9653d4ae)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgarthfred%2FDials_and_LEDs%2FImage0248.jpg&hash=6809e9b1dac20abce1148c3c37e33cd49b796b39)
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: joesgti on October 29, 2010, 04:39:37 pm
This sounds interesting but I actually prefer the blue and red  :happy2:
I don't... which is why I replaced all the blue LED's in my car with white:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgarthfred%2FDials_and_LEDs%2FImage0249.jpg&hash=735446811fd2d0b1d3bc8e09205deb9c9653d4ae)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fgarthfred%2FDials_and_LEDs%2FImage0248.jpg&hash=6809e9b1dac20abce1148c3c37e33cd49b796b39)

 :surprised: could not be bothered with that!!

Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Garth on October 29, 2010, 04:47:54 pm
:surprised: could not be bothered with that!!
Where's your sense of adventure?  :laugh:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 29, 2010, 05:02:40 pm
I knew someone else had done it!   :congrats:

Nice one Garth! Iv only got the cluster in white because i dont have climatronic, my bro had a golf with climatronic and had sooo many probs with it it put me off.

Like i said my other half doesnt like it she prefers the blue  :sick:

I might go red dials with blue needles??
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: RedRobin on October 29, 2010, 05:14:00 pm
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I like the oem clocks blue lights (on the Mk5 GTI) but they certainly aren't that great functionally.

Is it just a matter of swopping coloured bulbs, no more?
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 29, 2010, 05:19:33 pm
Hi RR,

I heard they lost the blue because it wasnt very clear and difficult to read???

Yes its just a matter of changing leds but they are SMD leds which are like tiny 'chips' soldered to the circuit board. The same as the type in the led tail lights actually.

Its very fiddly and not for a novice i would say, unless youve got some experience its easy to damage your cluster.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: RedRobin on October 29, 2010, 05:43:36 pm
^^^^
I'm a novice at most things - I even have a "X Novice" sticker on my car rear window! (from Spa Francorchamps). I could ask my friend who's (one day!!) completing my LED tails. Trouble is though that I also have a matching NewSouth boost gauge.

Although I would definitely agree about the Mk5's oem poor clarity, I use a PogoAlert with more accurate and large GPS digital speed display and primarily judge my revs by a mixture of sound and angle of the needle rather than digesting the numerical value itself - I know where 3,000 and 5,500 revs are.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 29, 2010, 06:00:02 pm
I purchased my cluster when doing the highline upgrade with the white leds already changed, it wasnt advertised as white so i was surprised when it lit up!!   :surprised:

Since then i have had a practise with a spare cluster (thanks joegti er sorry R32) and it is fiddly but quite doable, but i have had some experience in soldering before as im an electrician by trade.

To be honest i never really look at the rev counter either and rarely look at the speedo as the sat nav chirps away if i come across any speed cameras until i slow down!  :happy2:

Not that i get to drive the car much the missus has it all week and i get stuck with my van...until the weekend.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: RedRobin on October 29, 2010, 06:12:35 pm
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Don't Mk5 R32's have white LED clocks?
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 29, 2010, 06:28:09 pm
I believe your right, white dials with blue needles??

Mines an oil burner so 4500 red line for me   :happy2:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: stealthwolf on October 29, 2010, 11:07:20 pm
To be honest i never really look at the rev counter either and rarely look at the speedo
I think I've always looked at the dash on a regular basis to ensure not problems with temps/fuel/warning lights etc. Pretty much everytime I look at the speedo.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 31, 2010, 12:13:46 pm
Ok so its difficult NOT to look at either because their right in front of you but i meant consiously looking at them to see what speed Im doing or looking at the rev counter to know when to change gear.   :driver:

Hope that makes sense Stealthwolf? 
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Garth on October 31, 2010, 05:25:43 pm
I heard they lost the blue because it wasnt very clear and difficult to read???
That may well be the case. It's the main reason I didn't like the blue as I couldn't focus my eyes on the numbers properly. I thought it was just me but one of my friends was going to buy a new GTI a while back and decided not too as he had the same problem and couldn't live with it.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2010, 05:38:32 pm

I heard they lost the blue because it wasnt very clear and difficult to read???


That may well be the case. It's the main reason I didn't like the blue as I couldn't focus my eyes on the numbers properly. I thought it was just me but one of my friends was going to buy a new GTI a while back and decided not too as he had the same problem and couldn't live with it.


....Me too - I actually thought I might need another eye test!

The blue lights thingy looked and sounded good in the brochures  :rolleye: - I expect better from Germans!
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 31, 2010, 05:44:26 pm
The blue numbering IMO is not very 'crisp' and i think the white looks and functions much better.

I might even try red dials with white needles with a spare cluster I have.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2010, 05:46:25 pm
The blue numbering IMO is not very 'crisp' and i think the white looks and functions much better.

I might even try red dials with white needles with a spare cluster I have.


....I expect you may find that the red suffers from a similar lack of contrast as the blue, but I don't know for certain.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 31, 2010, 05:52:41 pm
Your probably right RR,

I think Ill stick with the white......unless my better half gets her way   :signLOL:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Garth on October 31, 2010, 05:53:13 pm
The blue numbering IMO is not very 'crisp' and i think the white looks and functions much better.

I might even try red dials with white needles with a spare cluster I have.


....I expect you may find that the red suffers from a similar lack of contrast as the blue, but I don't know for certain.
You're right to some extent. I didn't like the dials in my S3 that much as they were all red with red needles and weren't anywhere near as clear as white. White with a red needle is perfect I reckon. The all amber in my BMW's is much better than the red or blue but still not as clear as white or green.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 31, 2010, 05:58:21 pm
I think the all orange in the BMWs ect looks a bit 'cheap'.

But i must admit I have orange in my work van (citroen  :sick:) and its a vast improvment in clarity over the blue.
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2010, 06:04:21 pm
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Orange/yellow/amber is well known for increasing low-light clarity. My Bolle prescription specs are amber lensed and my previous pair were yellow. (It's prescription Oakley's next :party:)
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 31, 2010, 06:10:45 pm
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Orange/yellow/amber is well known for increasing low-light clarity. My Bolle prescription specs are amber lensed and my previous pair were yellow. (It's prescription Oakley's next :party:)

 8)  but doesnt everyone look like they've got jaundice (sp)  :rolleye:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: Garth on October 31, 2010, 06:22:29 pm
I think the all orange in the BMWs ect looks a bit 'cheap'.
I agree  :happy2:
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2010, 06:34:41 pm
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Orange/yellow/amber is well known for increasing low-light clarity. My Bolle prescription specs are amber lensed and my previous pair were yellow. (It's prescription Oakley's next :party:)

 8)  but doesnt everyone look like they've got jaundice (sp)  :rolleye:

....No, Bolle and Oakley lenses are far better than that [says he, justifying the cost].
Title: Re: mk6 clocks in a mk5
Post by: apollo13 on October 31, 2010, 07:17:43 pm
No problem RR!

Im used to people justifying the cost of things!! usually shoes and handbags though to be fair!