MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: gti265 on October 30, 2010, 12:20:50 am
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hello all,
realy stupid question but my sidelight arnt inline with my indicater bulbs, they are up next to the main head lamps???
is this right or am i being a muppet??
also its a 2007 56 plate gti, with xenons
thanks
tom
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With xenons the sidelight should be below the dipped beam (the xenon bulb). It should be pale yellow, on the normal headlights the side light is next to the main beam.
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this is where the sidelight is on oem xenons mate :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw199%2Fv2brett%2FSDC10518-1.jpg&hash=ad7b8f503072735bb6a6dc32b1d4191a19a0a60b)
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A bit difficult to see your signature properly gti265, but your car doesn't look like it has xenons. Any particular reason you think they do?
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A bit difficult to see your signature properly gti265, but your car doesn't look like it has xenons. Any particular reason you think they do?
Agreed - those in that sig pic are definately NOT xenons, just halogens. :wink:
Maybe someone told him it had some aftermarket H7s which had xenon gas in them? :sad1:
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Do you mean where are the sidelight bulbs in the engine bay?
They are behind the smaller rubber protective cover and they point away from the engine to the wing, so you have to pull them sideways to remove the bulb holder.
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........pain in the a**e to remove tho. :grin:
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no im pretty sure i have xenons i have the hid ballasts and everything in the engin bay, they could have been after market fitted as some other parts on the car where by the previous owners, and also the head lamps are a pure bluey white light, i have head lamp washers an auto levaling as well if this helps??
tom
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sorry about my spelling as well, im tired :( lol
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have you got any recent pics of your car mate? because as said above the car in your sig pic doesnt have factory xenons so maybe you have an aftermarket kit?
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The headlamp washers could be part of the winter pack, and the halogens could then be fitted with HID kits.
Or you had xenons and the guy you bought the car off sold them, fitted the HID kit and made a bundle.
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Either way, you don't have OEM xenons which is why your sidelights aren't bars next to the indicators.
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Or you had xenons and the guy you bought the car off sold them, fitted the HID kit and made a bundle.
Genius of an idea. When I come to trade in and the dealer takes the piss on value.... :wink:
Nah I prolly won't. :smiley:
As above you don't have factory lamps now, but to see if you did originally check the option codes in the service book. There is a reference in this site somewhere to help you decipher the codes.
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gti265, both in the boot (under the carpet) and in the manual (where the predelivery inspection stamp is), there is a sticker with a series of codes. Use the website below to decode them.
clicky (http://igorweb.org/equidec/Default.aspx)
It will tell you what options the car came with so you can compare. As stated before, it doesn't look like you have OEM Xenon headlamps but this will tell you whether the car was originally fitted with them or whether someone has tampered or modified the car in any way.
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wicked cheers guys, i just wanted to no why my side lights wernt next to the indicaters and im guessing thats why as i have an aftermarket kit,
cheers :)
tom
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True but if you didn't know, then it's likey your insurance company doesn't know either, which can invalidate your insurance at the very least!
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no im pretty sure i have xenons i have the hid ballasts and everything in the engin bay, they could have been after market fitted as some other parts on the car where by the previous owners, and also the head lamps are a pure bluey white light, i have head lamp washers an auto levaling as well if this helps??
As others have said, the headlamp washers can be part of a winter pack with standard halogens (which is definately what your sig pic shows).
And again, as others have said, you probably have an illegal retro-fit HID kit - not only will these invalidate your insurance, but also make your car unroadworthy due to it no longer meeting the EU Type Approval. (Bible studies over :wink: :smiley:)
But what confuses me - how do you know you have 'auto levelers'?
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True but if you didn't know, then it's likey your insurance company doesn't know either, which can invalidate your insurance at the very least!
Even IF you declare a HID kit - it will still invalidate your insurance.
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GT/GT Sport/GTI headlamp 'PR' numbers:
- 8BK - halogen headlamps for driving on left
- 8JX - gas discharge headlamps for driving on left
HTH
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its passed at least 1 mot with them on as i had it done, surly if they wernt road legal then it wouldnt of passed??
and whats the diffrence then between hids or standard xenons?? that make them illigal??
tom
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just read more of the threads on this subject on other forums as well as this one, im gessing mine probz arnt legal then, how do i shange them back to normal?? is it just a case of changing bulbs?? if so what about the hid ballasts?? do these still run with halogen bulbs??
thanks
tom
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Hids aren't Kitemarked or something like that ie they aren't approved. If you go on to the HIDS4U website, they tell you why they're for show use only.
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just read more of the threads on this subject on other forums as well as this one, im gessing mine probz arnt legal then, how do i shange them back to normal?? is it just a case of changing bulbs?? if so what about the hid ballasts?? do these still run with halogen bulbs??
You need to disable and/or remove the HID ballasts - unless you can get hold of some 85volt H7s! :P Unfortunately, when fitting these HID kits (usually cheap crap from China), the wiring on the back of the headlamp is often barstewardsised. I just hope they didn't ruin the actual headlamp housings too.
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Hids aren't Kitemarked or something like that ie they aren't approved.
Kitemark is old-skool British Standard Institue rating - no longer relevent on cars. European 'Type Approval' is where its at - hence either an 'e' or 'E' marking. :happy2:
And even IF the HID kit is E approved, fitting them will still invalidate the cars Type Approval. :stupid:
If you go on to the HIDS4U website, they tell you why they're for show use only.
Probably in some small miniscule print!
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hmm ok i shall have a look tomorow and see what i can do :), would it be easyer to fit auto levaling which i dont have i thought i did as im sure the headlamps move when i start the car up, but i checked tonight n i dont think they do :confused:
is there anything else i can do??
anyone got any ideas??
thanks
tom
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Even if you fitted the auto levelers, yours would still be illegal. The DfT have published info on their website - basically, your specific problem is that HID capsules have been fitted into a headlamp unit specifically designed for halogen headlamps - the focal length is different - and the DfT specifically prohibits this practice.
If you must have HIDs - then the ONLY legal way is to get some genuine OEM xenon headlamps, a new switch on the dash (you have to remove the manual leveling control), and fit the full auto leveling. You can get specialist controller leads and controllers from Kaufatec <sp?>, but the real cost is the genuine OEM headlamps.
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ahh i c, right well i shall just have to wait and see what condition the head lamps are in tomorow and decide what to do from there, do you think id have any come back on the garage that sold the car to me for selling it with illigal headlamps??
tom
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would these help?? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200434750166&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
or do the head lamps need to be oem vw
tom
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just done the decoder thingy and this is what it came up with:
B0N = Component parts set, complying with vehicle type for Great Britain, various parts
CG6 = Alloy wheels 7.5J x 17
G1A = 6-speed automatic transmission
H6L = Tires 225/45 R17 91W
J0L = Battery 340 A (70 Ah)
D2L = 4-cyl. gasoline engine 2.0 l/147 kW 16Vturbo FSI, homogeneous Base engine is T59/T61/TQ2/TU2/TD6/TN6
1AT = Electronic stabilization program (ESP)
1G9 = Space-saving spare wheel for temporary use, radial tire (5-hole)
1MS = Leather steering wheel with Tiptronic
1NL = Covers for alloy wheels
5RV = Right exterior mirror: aspherical
5SJ = Left exterior mirror: convex
T59 = 4-cylinder gasoline engine 2.0 L unit 06F.C
0BF = Rear stabilizer
3S0 = Without roof rails/roof load rack
3V3 = Preparation for child bench seat
QG1 = Service interval prolongation
8YM = Radio with CD player (high-end)
8GU = Alternator 140 A
8ZN = Antenna
1KY = Disc brakes, rear
1LL = Disc brakes, front
3YR = Door pockets with insert mats
G08 = Front shock absorption
0GG = Emission standard EU4
0Y1 = Standard climatic zones
4UF = Drivers and front passenger air bag with front passenger air bag deactivation
4X3 = Side air bag front with curtain air bag
4R4 = Power windows with comfort operation andcircuit breaker
4K3 = Radio remote controlled central locking operated from inside and safe securing
N2T = Fabric seat covering
5MD = Decorative aluminum inserts
9VJ = Sound package
2JG = Body-colored bumpers
0AE = Front stabilizer
0BF = Rear stabilizer
2UC = Sports version
2G7 = Filler neck module 1 with insert
1JE = Rear sports shock absorption
L99 = Suspension range 99 installation control only, no requirement forecast
0YC = Weight range 3 installation control only, no requirement forecast