MK5 Golf GTI
General => Testing and Forum Suggestion Box => Topic started by: billstein9 on November 01, 2010, 01:00:07 pm
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Product Reviews
Brought something new and want to share you views on it?
Bought
Brought is when you bring something from somewhere
Bought is when you have paid for something
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The problem is that spellcheckers would not differentiate between brought and bought. Even a grammar checker wouldn't pick it up. You need something with intelligence (ie human) to be able to do the correction.
There's nothing stopping you from correcting everyone's replies but I doubt you'd be looked upon favorably.
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Product Reviews
Brought something new and want to share you views on it?
Bought
Brought is when you bring something from somewhere
Bought is when you have paid for something
Hahaha, this is actually my number one irritation! I've mentioned it a few times, when people have used it half a dozen times in the same short sentence, but really you're asking too much to expect that everyone will use perfect grammar, punctuation and spelling all the time. There are worse offences, text speak being one of them.
Sadly I think it's a poor reflection on schooling nowadays that so many people make basic errors with the English language :confused:
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I see this on so many forums, not good at all.....
I can understand normal spelling errors but this is two different meanings all togeather..
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It's up there with txt spk as being most annoying.
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i dnt no wht all da fuz iz wit txt spk :signLOL:
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The problem is that spellcheckers would not differentiate between brought and bought. Even a grammar checker wouldn't pick it up. You need something with intelligence (ie human) to be able to do the correction.
There's nothing stopping you from correcting everyone's replies but I doubt you'd be looked upon favorably.
Microsoft Word does a similar thing, it can understand a sentence. Not suggesting that but I'm just saying a smart program exists. It should really be on the poster to correct their grammar and spelling.
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The problem is that spellcheckers would not differentiate between brought and bought. Even a grammar checker wouldn't pick it up. You need something with intelligence (ie human) to be able to do the correction.
There's nothing stopping you from correcting everyone's replies but I doubt you'd be looked upon favorably.
it's not a members post it is a heading on the home page.
Too many people make this mistake for me to bother trying to correct them plus like you said I dnt think I would make many friends :-)
I thought I would mention it as it is the site which is wrong and not a member.
I dnt like moaning on forums because how I see it is if I dnt like what someone has said or done I just stop Reading and ignore it.
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Product Reviews
Brought something new and want to share you views on it?
Bought
Brought is when you bring something from somewhere
Bought is when you have paid for something
yeah it is something that always cheeses me off when reading posts. What gets me is it's mainly not a typo as it will be said more than once in the same post.
I wonder if these people say brought instead of bought when talking?
Hahaha, this is actually my number one irritation! I've mentioned it a few times, when people have used it half a dozen times in the same short sentence, but really you're asking too much to expect that everyone will use perfect grammar, punctuation and spelling all the time. There are worse offences, text speak being one of them.
Sadly I think it's a poor reflection on schooling nowadays that so many people make basic errors with the English language :confused:
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Product Reviews
Brought something new and want to share you views on it?
Bought
Brought is when you bring something from somewhere
Bought is when you have paid for something
It literally does my head in when people mistake this....!!!!!!!! Where on earth did it start?!!
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Then try having english as second language, and read brought all the time, almost made me doubt i had learned it correctly :laugh:
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thank you Mods for sorting the spelling out :happy2:
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And what about when people are dyslexic. :smiley:
We all do things in life that annoy others, Surely spelling mistakes can be over looked. :wink:
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And what about when people are dyslexic. :smiley:
We all do things in life that annoy others, Surely spelling mistakes can be over looked. :wink:
I have the above problem. Only a mild form but it's still there. I can read through my post 10 times and still miss my mistakes.
:laugh: Just had to delete and start again after reading what i posted it didn't make sense :P :P
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And what about when people are dyslexic. :smiley:
We all do things in life that annoy others, Surely spelling mistakes can be over looked. :wink:
I have the above problem. Only a mild form but it's still there. I can read through my post 10 times and still miss my mistakes.
:laugh: Just had to delete and start again after reading what i posted it didn't make sense :P :P
Just post away, :happy2: i know of 3 or 4 members on here who have dyslexia. Life is to short to overly worry how we spell words. :happy2:
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And what about when people are dyslexic. :smiley:
We all do things in life that annoy others, Surely spelling mistakes can be over looked. :wink:
....A Warm Welcome back, TC! :drinking:
I agree about being tolerant of dyslexia and also accept that some folks are poor at spelling. However, I think it's fairly obvious when someone simply hasn't bothered to write in a manner which others can easily understand. I'm referring to the use of txt-speak (on forums) and absolutely no punctuation or use of capital letters.
If they can't be bothered to ask us for help in a way which is easily understood, why should we bother to spend extra time trying to understand their question?
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ItZ GooD 2 B spine. :laugh:
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ItZ GooD 2 B spine. :laugh:
.... :signLOL: I just knew that would be your reply. :happy2:
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I don't think the OP directly meant spelling mistakes, more the use of wrong words in a given context - brought and bought is the perfect example of it.
Hell, if it wasn't for the spell checker I'd make loads of spelling mistakes! :grin:
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Spelling mistakes are one thing, but that's not what the OP is on about.
My big bugbear is when people make simple mistakes like:
accept/except
affect/effect
complement/compliment
decent/descent
discreet/discrete
enquire/inquire
personal/personnel
precede/proceed
principal/principle
queue/cue
stationary/stationery
there/their/they're
wander/wonder
For me, this can detract from the post.
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FFS, I really wish there was such a thing a dyslexia simulator so people could understand how easy it is for these thing you call "simple" to written incorrectly. Next time you post something wrong I will be sure to point it out.
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I (and I'd imagine other forumites) have no problem with dyslexia or any other condition (eg poor sight) that would cause problems with posts, Steve.
I don't intend to offend anyone but not everyone has dyslexia. Sometimes, it's lack of knowledge. I had problems with inquire/enquire and practice/practise but read up and learnt about the correct forms and usage.
Other times, it's just laziness - something I'm very occasionally a victim of if I'm on the iPhone, especially at night - but this is more in respect to lack of punctuation or capitalisation.
Surely, if we allowed posts to descend into "txt spk", then it merely increases confusion and problems?
Next time you post something wrong I will be sure to point it out.
Happy for you to do so! :happy2:
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FFS, I really wish there was such a thing a dyslexia simulator so people could understand how easy it is for these thing you call "simple" to written incorrectly. Next time you post something wrong I will be sure to point it out.
http://webaim.org/simulations/dyslexia-sim.html
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I (and I'd imagine other forumites) have no problem with dyslexia or any other condition (eg poor sight) that would cause problems with posts, Steve.
So do you want me to ask people to put in their sigs if they have a reason why their posts may contain incorrect spelling or grammar?
At least this way you can public shame people for these most heinous crimes.
Just try to remember this is a car forum not f*cking mensa.
I don't intend to offend anyone but not everyone has dyslexia. Sometimes, it's lack of knowledge. I had problems with inquire/enquire and practice/practise but read up and learnt about the correct forms and usage.
Agreed not everyone does, but some consideration that some people do wouldn't go a miss. Using terms like "simple mistakes" aren't great to read when you suffer from something you have very little control over.
Surely, if we allowed posts to descend into "txt spk", then it merely increases confusion and problems?
It's been in the site rules since the start that text speak is not allowed, and when people persistently use it they get a PM. Same for posting in capitals etc.
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FFS, I really wish there was such a thing a dyslexia simulator so people could understand how easy it is for these thing you call "simple" to written incorrectly. Next time you post something wrong I will be sure to point it out.
http://webaim.org/simulations/dyslexia-sim.html
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Thanks Stu :happy2:
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At least this way you can public shame people for these most heinous crimes.
I'm not trying to "out" anyone. I've seen many posts where I could try to correct someone but I generally just ignore it. It is a bugbear of mine but given this place isn't print, we can leave things be! :happy2:
some consideration that some people do wouldn't go a miss. Using terms like "simple mistakes" aren't great to read when you suffer from something you have very little control over.
Agreed and I offer my apologies to anyone I unintentionally offended. :grouphug:
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I'm very much with stealth on this one. Surely you don't have to be a brain surgeon to be able to recognise which posts are written by those with an unfortunate dyslexia handicap, and the posts written by those who are just plain lazy and/or illiterate. I guess that we shouldn't look down our noses at those who may be illiterate or who say they can't spell but can't people learn to spell? - Not just for the sake of this forum but for their own benefit.
Having dyslexia = Not having control and so we should all be tolerant and sympathetic.
txt-speak / total lack of punctuation / bad spelling = We all have control over that and should make the effort to do something about it.
It's easy to say that this doesn't matter but it matters a lot when someone uses txt-speak and no punctuation plus the wrong words ("there" instead of "they're" etc) and they then expect others to help them by replying to their posted questions.
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The brought/bought one is one of the most common on here I have noticed. Does my head in. It's up there with people using YOUR instead of YOU'RE :fighting:
YOUR is something that belongs to you, i.e. "YOUR car is nice"
YOU'RE is an abreviation of you are, i.e. "YOU'RE a genius"
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I am correct in thinking that "bought/brought" and "your/you're" etc are not examples of dyslexia, am I? [genuine question]
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I am correct in thinking that "bought/brought" and "your/you're" etc are not examples of dyslexia, am I? [genuine question]
You are correct. It's just bad use of words.
My old boss was dyslexic and it was great some of the stuff he wrote... even he laughed at most of it. Especially the time when he wrote a note to the general manager asking that he couldn't get in to the chemical room because of the keypad lock and he needed 'axes' (instead of access). The GM came to me and asked if I thought we really did need axes to break the door down in an emergency :grin:
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My old boss was dyslexic and it was great some of the stuff he wrote... even he laughed at most of it. Especially the time when he wrote a note to the general manager asking that he couldn't get in to the chemical room because of the keypad lock and he needed 'axes' (instead of access). The GM came to me and asked if I thought we really did need axes to break the door down in an emergency :grin:
:signLOL: Nice one!
Being able to laugh at yourself is so very important no matter what your 'problem' is. :happy2:
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My old boss was dyslexic and it was great some of the stuff he wrote... even he laughed at most of it. Especially the time when he wrote a note to the general manager asking that he couldn't get in to the chemical room because of the keypad lock and he needed 'axes' (instead of access). The GM came to me and asked if I thought we really did need axes to break the door down in an emergency :grin:
:signLOL: Nice one!
Being able to laugh at yourself is so very important no matter what your 'problem' is. :happy2:
I agree. If you can't laugh at yourself, you shouldn't even consider laughing at anyone else!
I laugh at myself every day... and I have loads of 'problems' :grin:
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The brought/bought one is one of the most common on here I have noticed. Does my head in. It's up there with people using YOUR instead of YOU'RE :fighting:
YOUR is something that belongs to you, i.e. "YOUR car is nice"
YOU'RE is an abreviation of you are, i.e. "YOU'RE a genius"
"Could of" instead of "could have" is one of my biggest gripes, along with your/you're and there/they're/their.
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hello all.
I was not meaning to offend anyone. i am not the worlds best speller by far and i am not shy of that fact.
All i was saying is that, like many others, it is something i have noticed in alot of posts. Its not spelt incorrect its just the wrong word.
Like red robin said it is clear to see the differences.
If anyone was offended i am truly sorry.
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Seriously have you lot not got anything better to worry about than the way people try to express themselves on a car forum? :stupid:
I've only just read through this thread and quite frankly I'm amazed at the snobbery and sheer lack of respect at peoples varying abilities to either spell/write or express themselves. I'm no brain surgeon and I'm sure I make my fair share of these perceived 'mistakes' and I also see some of the instances that are being referred to, but hey I've got far worse/better things to worry about and I for one would not persecute anyone if they were not up to anyone's 'standards'.
Take a chill pill chaps and focus your energies on something worthwhile......... :confused:
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Tee Hee :grin:
Nath, you could apply most of that to absolutely any discussion on a car forum which wasn't a dry and very specifically car related topic.
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Seriously have you lot not got anything better to worry about than the way people try to express themselves on a car forum? :stupid:
I've only just read through this thread and quite frankly I'm amazed at the snobbery and sheer lack of respect at peoples varying abilities to either spell/write or express themselves. I'm no brain surgeon and I'm sure I make my fair share of these perceived 'mistakes' and I also see some of the instances that are being referred to, but hey I've got far worse/better things to worry about and I for one would not persecute anyone if they were not up to anyone's 'standards'.
Take a chill pill chaps and focus your energies on something worthwhile......... :confused: here hear :congrats:
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Just try to remember this is a car forum not f*cking mensa.
....I've just noticed this quote thanks to stokeballoon's sig.
Steve, you're implying that to contribute to a car forum you need to fall very short of being intelligent.
Don't you think that it's better to aspire to being able to communicate effectively than just being careless and lazy? (not talking about true dyslexia sufferers).
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Just try to remember this is a car forum not f*cking mensa.
....I've just noticed this quote thanks to stokeballoon's sig.
Steve, you're implying that to contribute to a car forum you need to fall very short of being intelligent.
Don't you think that it's better to aspire to being able to communicate effectively than just being careless and lazy? (not talking about true dyslexia sufferers).
Robin i know you like to try and wind Steve up, but honestly this thread has gone on too long now. :fighting: can you just suffer in silence please, like we all do at times. :wink:
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Robin i know you like to try and wind Steve up, but honestly this thread has gone on too long now. :fighting: can you just suffer in silence please, like we all do at times. :wink:
....Yes, of course, I will "suffer in silence" and leave the subject by only saying that my post was a genuine reaction to his words rather than a wind-up.
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Well I shall leave my genuine reply until the morning as issues in the "real world" need be dealt with first.
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Just try to remember this is a car forum not f*cking mensa.
....I've just noticed this quote thanks to stokeballoon's sig.
Steve, you're implying that to contribute to a car forum you need to fall very short of being intelligent.
Don't you think that it's better to aspire to being able to communicate effectively than just being careless and lazy? (not talking about true dyslexia sufferers).
Have I ever said I don't want people to put effort into the way they communicate with others on this site? The site rules are very clear that the likes of text speak are not welcomed and if people start using things like ALL CAPS in a post this is also dealt with.
I have always seen the benefit of a forum such as this is that is it's here to help promote a friendly, welcoming and non-judgmental environment for people to get help, share ideas and have some fun. To do that I don't see how a few spelling and grammar mistakes means a person should be made to feel like a second class member of the forum like some have tried to achieve in this very thread.
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it did make me laugh reading this how pedantic people can be!
anyway this thread is a contradiction in terms.
hello all.
I was not meaning to offend anyone. i am not the worlds best speller by far and i am not shy of that fact.
All i was saying is that, like many others, it is something i have noticed in alot of posts. Its not spelt incorrect its just the wrong word.
Like red robin said it is clear to see the differences.
If anyone was offended i am truly sorry.
that is not a word! :P
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I wasn't going to bother replying in this thread any further but a professional lawyer friend (without any knowledge of this discussion 'ere like), says:
"Correct spelling, grammar, capitalisation and so on is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse, and being complicit in your Uncle's sexual offence."
I rest my case. :smiley:
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What we all have to remember, is not everybody who uses this forums first language is English. I myself am Welsh and was taught in a Welsh speaking and grammatically school. I'm sure there are people from all over Europe that use this forum.Chrome helps with the spelling but not always.
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Don't worry mate. We're all just being honest in our opinions and they're only opinions. :happy2:
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I (and I'd imagine other forumites) have no problem with dyslexia or any other condition (eg poor sight) that would cause problems with posts, Steve.
So do you want me to ask people to put in their sigs if they have a reason why their posts may contain incorrect spelling or grammar?
At least this way you can public shame people for these most heinous crimes.
Just try to remember this is a car forum not f*cking mensa.
I bet some of the people with bad spelling on here would be able to get into mensa, but some of the ones who complain would not. A work mate of mine is a mensa member, he can not spell or write to save his life and he is in the top 10% of the countries IQ according to mensa.
The box to edit posts does not make it easy for people to correct things imo.
My old boss was dyslexic and it was great some of the stuff he wrote... even he laughed at most of it. Especially the time when he wrote a note to the general manager asking that he couldn't get in to the chemical room because of the keypad lock and he needed 'axes' (instead of access). The GM came to me and asked if I thought we really did need axes to break the door down in an emergency :grin:
:signLOL: Nice one!
Being able to laugh at yourself is so very important no matter what your 'problem' is. :happy2:
That one is better than some of the ones i have done over the years. :grin:
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I'm just glad I have a Mac.... because if I didnt, some of you guys would have a field day!!! :signLOL: