MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: crashdesk on November 04, 2010, 02:09:14 pm
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Hi,
I am test driving a ED30 this weekend and need some advice on what to look out for and what I should be offering.
It's a 3 door, red, manual, with 33,000 miles on the clock and the price is £13,000.
Any issues that would be occuring with this particular model?
Also, what is the current road tax and what is the cost of a service etc. General yearly costs?
Thanks for any advice.
C
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Be ready for the 40k service - Cambelt, waterpump + Full engine & filter service + Brake fluid etc...
Mine recently cost £650 > (although i have the DSG so the gearbox oil change is £150)
They are very well built cars so I wouldn't expect any problems. Although most people on here will say to change the diverter valve to the new revision D (£50). ( i did. but turns out the original was perfect)
Other than that, the price sounds good, so good luck with the sale :pomppomp:
EDIT: with regards to runnning costs.
I usually get 300 miles out of a £65 tank of V power fuel.
£240 a year for tax
And tyres wont last long if your an idiot like myself :grin: :wink:
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"Be ready for the 40k service - Cambelt, waterpump + Full engine & filter service + Brake fluid etc..."
Hopefully I can get them to do this before I purchase?
"Mine recently cost £650"
Holy Moses!
They are very well built cars so I wouldn't expect any problems. Although most people on here will say to change the diverter valve to the new revision D (£50). ( i did. but turns out the original was perfect)
Will research that thanks!
"I usually get 300 miles out of a £65 tank of V power fuel."
Pretty Good!
"£240 a year for tax"
Not so good but was expecting that
"And tyres wont last long if your an idiot like myself"
I don't think I'll be hokin' the dung out of it...Well, I say that now
Any more advice greatly appreciated. Thanks for all that. :happy2:
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If you think you wont be "hokin' the dung out of it".... think again, cos you wont be able to help it!
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Thanks for doing this post!
I am currently in the market for buying a ED 30 and needed to know the key facts about buying one and owning one!
Will keep my eye on this thread :)
Resonance
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Great stuff.
Bit fastidious when it comes to purchasing a car. Got a MK3 1.4 7 years ago. Did loads of research, avoided the dodgy one's and the car is still going strong. Worth getting info from people in the know!
Only reason I am selling up is because I have itchy feet and always wanted a GTI. It just happens that there is a ED30 for sale at a decent price from a reputable dealer. Fingers crossed!
Kepp the advice coming.
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Also... few hundred quid gets you 300 rather quick horses! :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Sounds good! The only thing is I will be strapped for cash for some time, that's why I have to make a good decision. Would love to think that this ED30 is going to be as good (reliability-wise) as my MK3 CL.
Oh yes, forgot to ask Keano "diverter valve to the new revision D". Not too savvy here. What is the diverter valve?
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"diverter valve to the new revision D". Not too savvy here. What is the diverter valve?
Diverter valve is a recirculating dump valve.
The OEM one tends to rip the diaphragm wheras the revision D fits the same in 5 mins and is a piston type which is much more reliable and only costs around £40-50 :smiley:
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Would there be any point in mentioning this during sale?
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I would mention it. It may be that a previous owner has already had this done. :smiley:
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cambelt at 40K????????
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Think it's 4 years actually Gaz. Think yourself lucky you don't have to carry that out for me as well :wink:
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The Timing belt on my current golf hasn't been replaced yet and mechanic says it's fine. The car is 13 years old with 78,000 miles on the clock.
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Think it's 4 years actually Gaz. Think yourself lucky you don't have to carry that out for me as well :wink:
so if u do 30K a year its 120K :laugh:
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4 years or 40k :happy2:
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4 years or 40k :happy2:
40k doesn't seem much, I'm gonna check me book
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Okay. Got the exact name of Golf so hopefully you can shed some light...Golf GTI 2.0 T FSI Edition 30
Not sure if all GTI are FSI or even what that means.
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4 years or 40k :happy2:
40k doesn't seem much, I'm gonna check me book
my book 2008 car, says tooth belt 114k not sure I'd like to leave it that long :smiley:, has the interval changed????
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Okay. Got the exact name of Golf so hopefully you can shed some light...Golf GTI 2.0 T FSI Edition 30
Not sure if all GTI are FSI or even what that means.
TFSI is the type of engine, the GTI and ED30 both basically share this design although the ED30 has a few mods to help its extra power output
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Cheers. Can't wait to test drive it. Exact price is £12,995. If anyone can give me any tips to bargain down the price that would be great. Going to do the usual and look for dents, scratches, wear and tear etc.
How much warranty will I get on this car. Probably just the one year. Anyone else here haggled for a year and a half warranty?
This could be my perfect car!!! :jumping:
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what year is it?
yes check the usual crash damage, condition etc, but have a good look at tyre and brake condition, if these need replacing it can add up. Overall condition can give you a good idea of how the car has been looked after, always go with your gut feeling if something doesn't feel right it probably isn't :smiley:
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4yrs/60k miles for the cambelt (although no one really agrees on this!)
(although many , including me have had it done early under warranty to resolve 'squeaking bird' noises on cold startup)
Id be checking previous owners to see if has been remapped at any point previously.
These cars respond very well to a remap with huge gains, the flip side being increased wear on various components.
Id specifically mention the clutch! (which to be fair are pants on std cars as well)
check the owner has run it on longlife oil but on a time and distance regime (a good sign)
what make of tyres ? (new ones are a min £100 each for a good make), worn evenly?
wheels if marked are difficult to colour match so dont think you can just touch them up
check panel gaps and colour match (red is hard to respray to match) , should have some stonechips if not why not?
do an HPI and ask about stolen/recovered specifically.
insurance isnt cheap (esp so for a remap/mods)
like any car Id have some money in reserve for any 'issues' which can be used for 'mods' if nothing goes wrong :signLOL:
They are fantastic cars that are very resilient but also have a few achilles heel points. keeping it standard is a crime :innocent:
hth
John
also what extras does it have? some can be retrofitted , some cant.
if you can get some pics up, as the usual suspects on here may be able to spot 'issues' you may not be aware of :happy2:
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Hi Crashdesk.
I brought my GTI ed30 two weeks ago now and i can honestly say that if you do get one you will not be dissapointed.I have owned a few VW's over the years, my last being a mk4 V6 Motion and and i could not believe the difference in performance between my previous cars and an ED30. :driver:
Go get one and enjoy it.
neil.
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Will take some picks tomorrow when I test drive. I will check all the points mentioned as well. Thanks everyone!
Wanted to get insurance off GreenLight as they were cheapest, but they say you need to have been driving a performace car for one year previously. :sad1:
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Sounds a good enough price to me mate. :happy2:
What spec is the car? Any extra's? Xenon's, Tints, RNS, etc,etc.
Try and get some photo's up of the exterior and interior.
You're gonna love it. :smiley:
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Will get the spec tomorrow and post it. You guys are bascially going to be making a lot of decisions for me. Much appreciated!
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The advice on this thread has been fantastic and is helping me out loads!
Sorry to hijack the thread a little bit, but Im in the same situation as Crashdesk, looking to buy a ED 30 in the this month, I have found two so far which I have perked my intrest.
My budget and conditions are £14000 and has to have DSG - 5 dr if possible but will settle for 3dr and around the 50000 mile mark otherwise its too many miles for a 07 -08 car.
I live in Kent and my postcode starts with TN3 so a car in the south of England would be best and so far the cars below fit the criteria best.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2232291.htm (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2232291.htm)
Im a bit worried about the car below, not much information on it and seems very low millage for the prices and there could be something hidden :scared:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1978185.htm (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1978185.htm)
Thanks for all your help and information so far.
Richard
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@Resonance : might be better to start a new thread so you get full replies and we arent cross posting :happy2:
of the 2 cars I'd also ask about cambelt on both.
exhaust tips on both look dirty which hints that owners dont 'care' that much for the cars :signLOL:
second car has bad drivers seat bolster on rhs, they all go bad to some extent but that looks bad for miles/yrs
(mine has 45k and isnt that bad and I'm not a small bloke!)
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@Resonance : might be better to start a new thread so you get full replies and we arent cross posting :happy2:
of the 2 cars I'd also ask about cambelt on both.
exhaust tips on both look dirty which hints that owners dont 'care' that much for the cars :signLOL:
second car has bad drivers seat bolster on rhs, they all go bad to some extent but that looks bad for miles/yrs
(mine has 45k and isnt that bad and I'm not a small bloke!)
Thanks for the tips so far, I have created a new thread called "The hunt for a ED 30".
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When I bought my GTI it was priced at £10k. Didn't manage to haggle too much, but did manage to get £300 off asking price, and 12 months tax, which basically gave me £500 off asking price. I did not ask for extended warranty, as I modded it as soon as I get home, and some places can argue that it invalidates the warranty (even though it apparently doesn't, unless the modded part is the one that caused the fault in the first place, but some garages would argue the point)
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Okay. As promised. This is make or break.
When asking for a finance quote VW sneakily tried to get me to pay for two years of servicing adding £254 to the total price, but I got wise.
What I want to do is go back with a set price and all the information you guys give me. I would like to get the car, but for the right price. I will be happy to walk away and drive my MK3 CL for another 2 years.
Images below...
Full view - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-jf81j29jwgcj58iuc8kkry556f.jpg
Drive side rear alloy - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-gm7f524wrt8idwerpks68ih1gy.jpg
Exhaust - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-brymskmnm2sk8s8mk62np45iqi.jpg
Exhaust 2 - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-pfa9ny8pa3d54mxnh1fth9r3bp.jpg
Edition 30 Drivers Sill - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-exp349srk5fd3fks2drx8ub18c.jpg
Passenger Door - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-ey2mwtfjkhun3c2m457abesnwj.jpg
Windscreen - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-mp71e87m5my5hr3cyerk75b86j.jpg
Inside Middle Dash - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-qx7m9x4177seu1as6fagd1ahe6.jpg
Inside Right Dash - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-thkq98b5p5pcksr7ufqhtxtyum.jpg
Pedals - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-18p6bjxbt9tadk6tnnt7npjig9.jpg
Seats - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-a5b5bhqubcwctnjuni6kyqxr2.jpg
Front Fog cover - http://img.skitch.com/20101106-t14khn7n8jk3i9tnrcsdrkp9r2.jpg
Some points...
Front fog covers have few bits of paint off to black plastic. Just stone chips. All other paintwork in good condition
Passenger door appears not to be flush at the top but rubber seal is perfect at very top
Exhaust dirty
Edition 30 sticker in door sill looks cheap and as if it wasn't stuck on properly. I though these door seal plates were thin sheets of metal. This just looks like a thick foil sticker.
Car was bought from this VW deaker 3 years ago and has been serviced every year. They traded for a new car. HSI is clear.
Let me know your thoughts and if there are any bargaining areas.
They quoted me £234 a month for 5 years. That's with the trade in and £3000 deposit. Seems rather steep! That totals £14,040 + my £3000 deposit totalling £17,040 over the 5 years!!!!!! Surely I must be able to twist their arm as this seems rather excessive?
Thanks.
Decision on Monday so please be quick.
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It'd be better to get a personal loan via your bank than to pay finance.
Stone chips can be made near invisible if done correctly.
The sill strips are just foils - not metal plates! Hence can be replaced - get the dealer to do it.
Can't comment on the door.
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Will check a bank loan on Monday to see how their fare. Thing is I have an MOT check on Tuesday for my MOT Test on Saturday. I don't want to spend unnecessary money.
Think I might get them to throw in a free timing belt change next year. Worth a shot.
I assume this is just a standard ED30. Could I get a better deal with the security of a warranty if I wait?
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looks good :happy2:
the only thing I would be suspicious of is that the front looks too good for a car with 33k miles. the front spoiler usually takes the chips hard.
are the stonechips consistent across the front of the car?
any more of the car complete from other angles?
exhaust may be past saving , but most of the time you can get the finish back, if not just get a cat back :signLOL:
what spec does it have? dependent on that it may be a bit expensive
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Just normal spec. No winter pack or anything like that.
Sadly they are the only photos. What other angles or photos would provide you with better info? I will try and get more pics on Monday evening.
The previous owner was a doctor and I don't think it was thrashed. There have been no accidents as far as I can see.
Be good to get your advice on what it is actually worth so I can go back to them with a final amount that I would be willing to pay. Mileage is legit from what I see in the log book... and I think pretty good for the price?
Thanks,
C
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Apologies, but I had to bump.
Been looking at the other ED30 thread with some good tips. I have to get this straight in my head today so I can approach VW tomorrow. Pleeeaaase help.
I am going for a price of £12,000 (that's with the £425 off for the MK3) so I will say I want the car for £12,425.
The other threads states that there were some optional extras which aren't included. Is the current price good for not having these or could I pick up a similar ED30 with the optional extras and low milage for a similar price.
Thanks again...and kind of freakin out :scared: