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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: vRS Carl on November 05, 2010, 07:07:16 pm

Title: Bit of Help Please
Post by: vRS Carl on November 05, 2010, 07:07:16 pm
If a Coil Pack is going, But does not show a CEL, will it log a fault code?

I ask because today whilst accelerating onto the motorway the car felt like it was mis-firing. At first i thought it was just loosing traction a bit due to the wet. But as there was no flashing light on the dash i discounted this. Anyway on the way back home i had to go on the motorway again and it did the same thing whilst accelerating on to the motorway. It only does it a couple of times and it's only on WOT.

So when i got back just now i Scanned the car but it had no fault codes  :confused: :confused:

Could it be the traction control kicking in (i find this odd at 60+ mph as i never normally have it) with the roads being wet or could it be a coil pack on the way out and it won't show a fault till it actually fails??

Cheers in advance

Carl :happy2:
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: ub7rm on November 05, 2010, 07:17:54 pm
I know on the mk4 1.8T it didn't log a fault code when it was intermittant, after it got a bit worse there was a general misfire code, only when it was proper fecked did it narrow it down.

Not sure if the newer ECU's are any more on the ball.
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: joesgti on November 05, 2010, 07:22:08 pm
if a coil pack has gone then it will log a fault, it did on mine.
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: rdfcpete on November 05, 2010, 07:24:15 pm
Is it drinking engine oil Carl?

Isn't that usually a sure-sign way of knowing a coil pack is on it's way out?
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: Hedge on November 05, 2010, 07:33:41 pm
You should be able to log it and see which cylinder it is. Maybe buy a spare just in case. :smiley:
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: bacillus on November 05, 2010, 07:37:02 pm
A slight misfire at speed may not produce a warning CEL. A certain threshold must be exceeded for the light to come on and a fault code stored.
As you have a vcds cable, you're best live logging block 015 to see if it picks up any misfires.
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: RedRobin on November 05, 2010, 07:40:03 pm
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Another way to find out which coilpack needs replacing is to sniff it and it's the one which smells nasty. Honest, I'm not kidding - a VW Assist man told me.
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: vRS Carl on November 05, 2010, 07:50:55 pm
You should be able to log it and see which cylinder it is. Maybe buy a spare just in case. :smiley:

I've got 3 as when my last one went i bought 4 as i was told that they will probably all go shortly after. It's been nearly 50K miles since my last one went  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: divweir on November 05, 2010, 08:03:15 pm
as above on my audi done one then a few days later onother one went just done them all not to expesive for audi that is .dont know about golf
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: Hedge on November 05, 2010, 08:10:24 pm
You should be able to log it and see which cylinder it is. Maybe buy a spare just in case. :smiley:

I've got 3 as when my last one went i bought 4 as i was told that they will probably all go shortly after. It's been nearly 50K miles since my last one went  :laugh:

No one likes a smart arse.  :P  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: vRS Carl on November 05, 2010, 08:28:30 pm
You should be able to log it and see which cylinder it is. Maybe buy a spare just in case. :smiley:

I've got 3 as when my last one went i bought 4 as i was told that they will probably all go shortly after. It's been nearly 50K miles since my last one went  :laugh:

No one likes a smart arse.  :P  :laugh:

You know me well enough to know i have an answer for everything  :booty:
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: Hedge on November 05, 2010, 09:50:24 pm
You know me well enough to know i have an answer for everything  :booty:

Not quite everything  :wink:
Title: Re: Bit of Help Please
Post by: vRS Carl on November 06, 2010, 08:33:29 am
Well this is very strange.

I've been out this morning and done a few logging runs with the Traction Control off.

Feck all wrong  :confused: :confused:

Block 115 showed a max of -0.8 correction on any cylinder.

So i tried it with the TC switched back on and hey presto the prob came back, again nothing on the logs. So it seems if the TC kicks in for a split second it doesn't flash on the dash.

It was only in the daylight this morning that i noticed they had re tarmac'd the surface which could explain why it's a bit slippier than normal. Other than that i haven't a clue why it's happening.

But it's not a Coilpack going. Knowing my luck it will be an injector :laugh:

Thanks for all the replies :happy2: