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Title: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 13, 2010, 02:29:28 am
Haha - had to happen!

The driver side heated seat works fine to a point but seems to just turn itself off after a short time? This is on any setting.

Can't really say how long, maybe 5 minutes? Sometimes less?

If I turn the dial to 0 then back on again, it works again for a short time...

Passenger side works fine and gets nice and hot! :)

Is this the sign of a faulty element in the drivers side? Or some sort of thermostat inside the seat shutting it down?

If its the element how much is this likely to cost to change over? (or is it part of the seat itself in the MK5?)

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: titchy on November 13, 2010, 09:29:38 am
theres a relay for the heated seats mine went on a corrado a few years ago
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: apollo13 on November 13, 2010, 12:16:58 pm
The funs over already mate??

There must be a thermostat/sensor in the seat itself to stop it from over heating.

I dont have any wiring diagrams but I know a man who does......

Im sure he'll be along soon.
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 13, 2010, 01:27:37 pm
Lol I know! Better than they were tho at least!

Yeah it seems like either the seat sensor is detecting it's too hot and turning off or something.

Can't see it being wiring as it works if u turn off then on again etc

Maybe it's heat circulating through the element then hitting a burnt out area and shutting down?

Hopefully a wiring diagram can shed some light.
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: apollo13 on November 13, 2010, 03:01:57 pm
If the element was knackered it should'nt heat up at all.

I would think its got to be a sensor/thermostat somewhere in the seat.

Just a thought have you sat in both seats to see how hot they get or have you just felt them with your hand? Or sat in the drivers seat and just felt the passenger seat?

Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 13, 2010, 03:05:50 pm
Hi mate, the passenger side was hotter for sure as my friend was like "turn it off now its too hot!" lol

The driver seat still got quite hot it just turned off shortly after (tried all 5 settings too).
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: apollo13 on November 13, 2010, 03:16:57 pm
You were just trying to get her to strip off werent you???   :grin:     :love:

Hmm definately sounds like a stat / sensor problem.

Im sure Iv read threads before on golf heated seats heating to different temps, Ill see if I can find anything.
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: stealthwolf on November 13, 2010, 05:32:17 pm
If you had fiddled with the aircon settings, you could have got her to smuggle some peanuts!  :grin:
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 13, 2010, 07:36:22 pm
Hehe  :evilgrin:

I just drove the car about 15 mins down the road, put the driver heated seat on from the start, and it lasted approx 2 mins then turned itself off.

Lee, im gonna google it now mate, im sure i've read about it on the MK4's but not on a MK5 but will check now...
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 13, 2010, 09:37:45 pm
Hmmm, it looks like each seat has a control unit.

I have part numbers of

7L0 959 772 D
Then it says
1K-6B081 200*
1K-6P018 000*
1K-6U013 200*
1K-6W565 000*

QTY : 2

So that indicates there are maybe either a) 2 controllers per seat, or b) one controller for each seat.

That would make sense, as a controller in theory would 'control' the level of heat channeled into the seat, and if faulty would shut down/off etc

Stu, Darren, any ideas on this one?
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 14, 2010, 03:11:32 pm
Further research!

Again, same thing, so turning to 0 then back to 5 (or whatever setting 1,2,3,4) brings the heat back, it then goes again, if turning to 0 and back again it works again but keeps shutting off.

Can anyone confirm whether there is a control unit under each seat? Or a thermostat / wire of some sort?

Thanks,

Sean
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: apollo13 on November 14, 2010, 03:17:53 pm
There HAS to be a sensor/thermostat of some sort!!!
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 15, 2010, 12:15:01 am
Just had an idea folks.

Obviously by swapping the loom extending the driver side loom to passenger side loom I used extra cables.
But to put the passenger side connector to driver side the kufate loom did not need touching as it was way long already as it's essentially meant to stretch across the car in a lhd vehicle so is very long.

So long I had to wrap it round in a circle a few times and bundle it under the seat.

This could cause this to happen right? Or would it just not work full stop?

In otherwords am I going to have to cut the driver side connector off and shorten the kufatec loom?
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: Andy on November 15, 2010, 12:33:28 am
sounds like a faulty sensor Sean but you could try stretching the wire out so its not making a coil so to speak
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 15, 2010, 01:36:16 pm
I shortened the excess wire, neatened it all, reconnected... Same problem.

I've had enough so taking it to VW instead! Looks like I've bought a dodgy drivers seat.
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: apollo13 on November 15, 2010, 02:14:23 pm
It was worth a try mate, at least you know its nice an neat under there! 

Why dont you try an indy auto electrician if youve had enough?

Might be worth a call or two to save a few quid, have you had them out again to double check under that seat?
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: SeanyK on November 15, 2010, 04:00:48 pm
Hi mate,

From what I can see having looked at diagrams as much as I could, the heater elements are built into the backrest cover, and the base cover.

Whether that means the thermistor is part of those is another question, and if so, are there 2? As then it's a case of buying both covers to save time, and I suspect £££ for those!

I might just sell the seats to be honest! And buy a full leather interior! If VW are going to charge me £3-500 it's not worth me bothering to fix it, i'll just sell the seats to someone who doesn't care about the heating part! (And make sure they are 2007+ seats I buy!)
Title: Re: Heated seat turning off at certain temp?
Post by: apollo13 on November 15, 2010, 04:40:32 pm
Did you manage to get hold of any diagrams them?

Yeah there are 2 heat pads like you say but I though there was only one sensor/stat and that was in the squab (bit you sit on).