MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: RedRobin on November 17, 2010, 11:04:02 am
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The new Cayman R.
Oh dear, I've just touched cloth! This has got to be the purrfect 2-seater fast road car and even has flappy paddles (and DRL's).
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsche/2011-porsche-cayman-r-ar100274.html
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How come it is called the R, and not the RS?
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Meh :chicken:
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Meh :chicken:
I agree. They've saved weight by removing the aircon, and the stereo, both things I'd say are essential in a fast road car.
Bad move with the name too.
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Yep, I'll be having that, thanks!
Obviously with Climate & radio specced, I'm not insane!
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still a cheap mans porsche. :P
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Meh :chicken:
I agree. They've saved weight by removing the aircon, and the stereo, both things I'd say are essential in a fast road car.
Bad move with the name too.
....Oh, so you'd refuse to have one would you.
I never use Aircon except the demist (if that's all the same system) and you can have it as an extra option anyway. I wouldn't want the radio and would fit an Alpine SatNav.
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Having bust my aircon last time out in Germany, there's no way in fricking hell I'd be without it - I felt ill it was that hot and stuffy.
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Sacrilege - The car couldn't be less worthy of the R badge if they tried. Once again marketing have trampled all over heritage.
(And I was already annoyed as I've seen the GT5 car list today, what an absolute joke that is as well!)
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still a cheap mans porsche. :P
....Listen to you. Doesn't the Porsche in your parents house belong to daddy?
It's horses for courses and I see this Cayman R as a more practical road car than the more powerful Porsches. ETTO.
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Sacrilege - The car couldn't be less worthy of the R badge if they tried. Once again marketing have trampled all over heritage.
(And I was already annoyed as I've seen the GT5 car list today, what an absolute joke that is as well!)
....Deary me! :rolleye: So much fuss over just a badge. Would you be happier if Porsche called it the RS?
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A 911 cabrolet isn't even a real Porsche, never mind a poor man's.
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A 911 cabrolet isn't even a real Porsche, never mind a poor man's.
....Jumped up hairdresser's car isn't it? :wink: :evilgrin: :laugh:
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Sacrilege - The car couldn't be less worthy of the R badge if they tried. Once again marketing have trampled all over heritage.
(And I was already annoyed as I've seen the GT5 car list today, what an absolute joke that is as well!)
....Deary me! :rolleye: So much fuss over just a badge. Would you be happier if Porsche called it the RS?
Yes, because it would be more accurate.
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still a cheap mans porsche. :P
....Listen to you. Doesn't the Porsche in your parents house belong to daddy?
It's horses for courses and I see this Cayman R as a more practical road car than the more powerful Porsches. ETTO.
Agreed ETTO but I still fail to see how, cost aside, a sure-footed AWD 911 Turbo with room inside, plus a usable boot space, sat-nav, air-con and adjustable suspension (read - comfortable) is less practical than a stripped out Cayman? It's even got a smaller tank, so has less range.
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....Oh, so you'd refuse to have one would you.
Not at all. I'm in no doubt that it is an awesome car, but in reality it's a Cayman S, with a diff and a weight saving due to lack of kit.
Porsche just don't do special edition cars very well anymore (though I love the Boxster Spyder), and that's a shame.
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....Oh, so you'd refuse to have one would you.
Not at all. I'm in no doubt that it is an awesome car, but in reality it's a Cayman S, with a diff and a weight saving due to lack of kit.
Porsche just don't do special edition cars very well anymore (though I love the Boxster Spyder), and that's a shame.
Nail. On. Head.
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I'll go along with that too, it's no leap forward and not much more than what you can choose off the options list anyway.. I still want one though.
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I think id rather get a second hand Carrera 4S or Turbo to be honest
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At the end of the day they are all Adolf's Beetle's with an over-inflated opinion of themselves. :chicken:
Real Porsche = 928 :popcornsoda:
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Why so defensive RR? :confused: Have you bought one?
And no I wouldn't have one. If it were given to me yes I'd drive it and probably sell it, but I wouldn't buy one with my own money.
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....Oh, so you'd refuse to have one would you.
Not at all. I'm in no doubt that it is an awesome car, but in reality it's a Cayman S, with a diff and a weight saving due to lack of kit.
Porsche just don't do special edition cars very well anymore (though I love the Boxster Spyder), and that's a shame.
imo all their cars are special so it makes it harder to create a special edition one without it been absolutely bonkers and then only a few lucky ones will be able to afford it...
i spent ££££ modding my golf to improve the handling and peformance and then jumped in to a 4 year old stock cayman s which would have walked all over it in pretty much every aspect
with an extra 30hp, lsd, pdk and reduced weight this will be an awesome car and just look at those seats :drool:
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....Oh, so you'd refuse to have one would you.
Not at all. I'm in no doubt that it is an awesome car, but in reality it's a Cayman S, with a diff and a weight saving due to lack of kit.
Porsche just don't do special edition cars very well anymore (though I love the Boxster Spyder), and that's a shame.
imo all their cars are special so it makes it harder to create a special edition one without it been absolutely bonkers and then only a few lucky ones will be able to afford it...
i spent ££££ modding my golf to improve the handling and peformance and then jumped in to a 4 year old stock cayman s which would have walked all over it in pretty much every aspect
with an extra 30hp, lsd, pdk and reduced weight this will be an awesome car and just look at those seats :drool:
It's 9bhp.
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compared to mine its 39bhp (possibly less since i have installed a new plenum and gt3 throttle body..) and i am pleased with the performance so I can only imagine what this will be like :happy2:
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....Oh, so you'd refuse to have one would you.
Not at all. I'm in no doubt that it is an awesome car, but in reality it's a Cayman S, with a diff and a weight saving due to lack of kit.
Porsche just don't do special edition cars very well anymore (though I love the Boxster Spyder), and that's a shame.
imo all their cars are special so it makes it harder to create a special edition one without it been absolutely bonkers and then only a few lucky ones will be able to afford it...
i spent ££££ modding my golf to improve the handling and peformance and then jumped in to a 4 year old stock cayman s which would have walked all over it in pretty much every aspect
with an extra 30hp, lsd, pdk and reduced weight this will be an awesome car and just look at those seats :drool:
Totally agree with this, i really hate it when people use the "it's a poor mans porsche" thing, er still a Porsche at the end of the day and they make some fantastic machines, and not knocking the Golf at all but i would still take a Porsche over it any day of the week.
Surely you can say that for any car though? is a Gallardo a poor mans Lambo because he hasn't bought the Murcielago ?
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Why so defensive RR? :confused: Have you bought one?
And no I wouldn't have one. If it were given to me yes I'd drive it and probably sell it, but I wouldn't buy one with my own money.
....No, but if the funds were available and I no longer needed a 5-door hatchback, then I'd be very very keen indeed. It sounds as if it's less of a beast than the bigger Porsches.
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Blake-R, in quoting me you're suggesting I stated that it was a poor man's Porsche. I've never subscribed to that opinion. I wholeheartedly agree that every Porsche is special. However, to put this in perspective, Porsche has named this Cayman after one of the most special limited edition cars they ever produced, and as such it is not unreasonable to expect it is more than a breathed on Cayman S. No doubt it's a great car, but it's not a great special edition.
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Let's get one thing straight here, I (personally - can't speak for others) am not knocking the Cayman. It's Porsche marketing I have beef with. No-doubt the R is a very accomplished car but it doesnt deserve the badge which up to know has been reserved for stuff so mental it makes the GT3 RS look lardy.
I hate the look of the 996 and the 997s are still quite expensive, so given the choice, I'd probably have a nearly-new Cayman over an old 911. But IMHO, the 997.2 Turbo is still the ultimate allrounder and all the car I'd ever need.
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All I'm suggesting is that it's a great car. But I think that nearly ALL Porsches are great cars. I don't really care about whether it's a special edition or how it's marketed. :happy2:
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Let's get one thing straight here, I (personally - can't speak for others) am not knocking the Cayman. It's Porsche marketing I have beef with. No-doubt the R is a very accomplished car but it doesnt deserve the badge which up to know has been reserved for stuff so mental it makes the GT3 RS look lardy.
I hate the look of the 996 and the 997s are still quite expensive, so given the choice, I'd probably have a nearly-new Cayman over an old 911. But IMHO, the 997.2 Turbo is still the ultimate allrounder and all the car I'd ever need.
....And "all the car I'd ever need" is how I see the Porsche R for me personally.
The Audi RS3 qualifies for that too - At least on paper, so far.
For now, my GTI is very much all the car I need.
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The nomenclature around the R is a bit odd, that's usually only for the homologation cars. I'm not sure they'd have let the marketing dept. run away with that usage of the R for no good reason and sully its use. I'd have expected a tarted up only to be named a CS.
There's also the Boxter version which is called a Spyder and not a Boxter R - there's going to be a reason somewhere.
My thoughts, they're going to start producing a Cayman RS race/track car off the back of this.
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Blake-R, in quoting me you're suggesting I stated that it was a poor man's Porsche. I've never subscribed to that opinion. I wholeheartedly agree that every Porsche is special. However, to put this in perspective, Porsche has named this Cayman after one of the most special limited edition cars they ever produced, and as such it is not unreasonable to expect it is more than a breathed on Cayman S. No doubt it's a great car, but it's not a great special edition.
Andrew, sorry i did not mean that to sound like i was aiming this at you at all, sorry if it came across that way buddy, i just mean in general that a lot of peoples perspective of the Boxster and Cayman range is a poor mans Porsche. I will agree that they do seem to give out badges very easily now! It's like the speedster, what has really been improved on this? Just some body work changes as far as i'm aware?.
Honda have also done the same with the Mugen 200 type r! all they have done is stick some cosmetic bits onto it! There is a Mugen performance part even on the car, silly.
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I am in love with this car! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Robin, dont take it all so personally, no one is telling you what you should or shouldn't have or what suits you. But there are a few of us who apparently care a little more about prestiege and heritage and are of the opinion that this car simply doesnt warrant the marque.
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Until it's established if it is a homologation car or not, you can't make a call on its "worth".
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Had the Cayman S, very very accomplished car.
Unfortunately until they sort out the Steering wheel/Pedal/Seat alignment, or I have a back operation ( accomodating the off side Front wheel kicks the pedals off to the left) , it is not for me.
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It's Porsche marketing I have beef with.
You only have to look at the 911 range to see how thinly they're spreading things. Line-up is currently: Carrera, Carrera S, Carrera Cabriolet, Carrera S Cabriolet, Carrera 4, Carrera 4S, Carrera 4 Cabriolet, Carrera 4S Cabriolet, Carrera GTS, Carrera GTS Cabriolet, Targa 4, Targa 4S, Turbo, Turbo S, Turbo Cabriolet, Turbo S Cabriolet, GT3, GT3 RS, GT2 RS and the Speedster!
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still a cheap mans porsche. :P
Does that mean a Golf GTi is a cheap mans Golf as it's not a Golf R :popcornsoda: :evilgrin:
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still a cheap mans porsche. :P
Does that mean a Golf GTi is a cheap mans Golf as it's not a Golf R :popcornsoda: :evilgrin:
.... :signLOL: Very good! :congrats:
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Blake-R, in quoting me you're suggesting I stated that it was a poor man's Porsche. I've never subscribed to that opinion. I wholeheartedly agree that every Porsche is special. However, to put this in perspective, Porsche has named this Cayman after one of the most special limited edition cars they ever produced, and as such it is not unreasonable to expect it is more than a breathed on Cayman S. No doubt it's a great car, but it's not a great special edition.
Andrew i've actually just noticed i was quoting Joesgti about the cheap mans Porsche thing, not you!! haha.
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Beautiful car and I'm sure it will go and handle like the proverbial s**t off a shovel, but I still like the 911. Steve Jr has just bought a 997 Turbo fully loaded with all the carbon pack and PCCB 380mm front and 350mm rear brakes -mmmmm and with the performance kit that will be going on it OMFG!!!! :surprised:
Now if porsche grew a pair and turbo'd the Cayman - that would be a car to drool over :drool:
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Oh, there's plenty of places doing engine conversions on Caymans...... right up your street!!
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Yep parr do a turbo conversion providing a safe 400-450bhp for £9k, lsd and some bilstein coils £3k on top of a £20-25k 2nd hand cayman will have you a weapon, does 11s 1/4m
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Yep parr do a turbo conversion providing a safe 400-450bhp for £9k, lsd and some bilstein coils £3k on top of a £20-25k 2nd hand cayman will have you a weapon, does 11s 1/4m
Yeah, I've read the EVO review of the Parr conversion and like it a lot, but for me I'd much prefer an OEM Turbo'd Cayman with PDK :happy2:
400bhp turbo, with LSD, PDK and all the trimmings, whilst weighing less than 1400kg would be a big seller for Porsche and a great platform for some extra "tweaking" :driver:
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Gets my vote but I'd need the toys in the car as it's not just a track plaything.
Though It'd be a 911 for me I think, I'd need the rear "seats" else I'd never be allowed it in the driveway :sad1:
Always wanted one, they still stir my loins a little, however the 996 engine blow ups continually make me extremely nervous to get myself into a porker. :scared:
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Beautiful car and I'm sure it will go and handle like the proverbial s**t off a shovel, but I still like the 911. Steve Jr has just bought a 997 Turbo fully loaded with all the carbon pack and PCCB 380mm front and 350mm rear brakes -mmmmm and with the performance kit that will be going on it OMFG!!!! :surprised:
It might not be as vocal as n/a model, but i just cant fault the Turbo. Perhaps not 'all the car you'll ever need' but certainly 'all the Porsche you'll ever need'.
A loaded 997.2 Turbo and an RS6 Avant. Perfect garage.
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still a cheap mans porsche. :P
Does that mean a Golf GTi is a cheap mans Golf as it's not a Golf R :popcornsoda: :evilgrin:
Yes. :grin: Especially if we're talking MkV's and fuel bills. :signLOL:
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still a cheap mans porsche. :P
....Listen to you. Doesn't the Porsche in your parents house belong to daddy?
It's horses for courses and I see this Cayman R as a more practical road car than the more powerful Porsches. ETTO.
A 911 cabrolet isn't even a real Porsche, never mind a poor man's.
A 911 cabrolet isn't even a real Porsche, never mind a poor man's.
....Jumped up hairdresser's car isn't it? :wink: :evilgrin: :laugh:
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Don't worry, Joe. Enjoy any Porsche you can get to drive :happy2: