MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Sunglasses Ron on November 18, 2010, 12:00:19 pm
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Thoughts? I know most are not fans of the Griffin, but there are some nice lines and touches I reckon. If it rolls off the production line with 21's though (which I highly doubt) I can't see it doing to well in the twisties.. :scared: :grin:
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Thoughts? I know most are not fans of the Griffin, but there are some nice lines and touches I reckon. If it rolls off the production line with 21's though (which I highly doubt) I can't see it doing to well in the twisties.. :scared: :grin:
Since when has that ever bothered Vauxhall :signLOL:
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Unlike the old Astra (but like the current VXR Corsa) this was designed from the ground up to be a hot-hatch. The old Astra was a 'normal' hatch that got warmed up. So it should handle corners and the power quite well.
I'll never, ever own one (badge snob, reputation and all that), but like the old Astra, I will quietly appreciate it's aggresive lines from a far. Hope it's better inside that the out going Astra though.
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This one'll have the same front suspension set-up as the Insignia VXR which is a version of the Revoknuckle idea that Ford pinched from Renaultsport. I reckon it'll handle pretty well and besides, most of the notions that Vauxhalls don't handle come from that nob end Clarkson who has a compulsive disorder that makes him slate everything they make!
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This one'll have the same front suspension set-up as the Insignia VXR which is a version of the Revoknuckle idea that Ford pinched from Renaultsport. I reckon it'll handle pretty well and besides, most of the notions that Vauxhalls don't handle come from that nob end Clarkson who has a compulsive disorder that makes him slate everything they make!
To be fair, all the cars he slated were crap. The old Vectra was just awful scary to drive, I've never experienced understeer like it, even at sensible speeds. Spearing straight-on on round abouts is not something I enjoy. But let try to avoid making this a VXR/Vauxhall slagging thread...
And the rumours about Ford nicking the tech from Renault are just that - internet hear-say.
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that car is awesome, i also owned some VXRs of past and they were fantastic cars too, bang for buck you'll not math them with anything IMO.
Very impressed with this
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looks like a mix of megane and rocco to me finished off with a splash of max power, clarkson speaks the truth :happy2:
to change the tyres in a few years time will cost more than its worth..
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That's really nice, a serious bit of design. Guess we wait to see how it drives eh? The Insignia is a great car, so hopefully they've learnt to not just throw power at a crap chassis finally.
Oh, and the old VXR handled like a sack of sh*t - I don't care what badge was on it, I'd say the same if it was a VW. I was lent one for a week that had been through 888 to apparently make it better, it was shocking. Bloody fast in a straight line though!
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That's really nice, a serious bit of design. Guess we wait to see how it drives eh? The Insignia is a great car, so hopefully they've learnt to not just throw power at a crap chassis finally.
Oh, and the old VXR handled like a sack of sh*t - I don't care what badge was on it, I'd say the same if it was a VW. I was lent one for a week that had been through 888 to apparently make it better, it was shocking. Bloody fast in a straight line though!
Fully concur, with work I get to drive the CDTi variant quite a lot. The car is very easy to drive fairly fast.
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I like it,looks good BUT 21'' rims for everyday use?.They look great tho.
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looks like a mix of megane and rocco to me finished off with a splash of max power, clarkson speaks the truth :happy2:
to change the tyres in a few years time will cost more than its worth..
Clarkson is a bell, anyoen can plant a car into a corner and floor it...... As for max power, not sure myself.
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Not only will 21" tyres be expensive those wheels are :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
I agree that a lot of Vauxhall line up is carp. However the Insignia is the exception to the rule. Having been in the new Insignia VXR i can safely say that car is a weapon and a half :driver:
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Not only will 21" tyres be expensive those wheels are :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
I agree that a lot of Vauxhall line up is carp. However the Insignia is the exception to the rule. Having been in the new Insignia VXR i can safely say that car is a weapon and a half :driver:
...........bloke at work has one in that nice blue colour 320bhp :happy2:
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Yeah that's the colour of the one i had a go in.
Nice although i prefer the Grey colour.
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How much is this car, and what are it's vital stats, e.g. bhp, engine size, etc.?
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Just looks a bit Halfords to me, maybe the CF on the wheels put me off before I saw the rest of the pics........ :chicken:
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Not a massive fan of that, the side proportions are wrong, looks to tall probably not helped by the stupid wheels, also the interior is still not my cup of tea the steering wheels has the proportions of a horses head, and lets not even start on the collection of buttons on the center console!
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Not only will 21" tyres be expensive those wheels are :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
I agree that a lot of Vauxhall line up is carp. However the Insignia is the exception to the rule. Having been in the new Insignia VXR i can safely say that car is a weapon and a half :driver:
...........bloke at work has one in that nice blue colour 320bhp :happy2:
Nice motor that is hindered by a quite frankly ridulous kerb weight.. Estate version is getting on for 2 tonnes :surprised: Which gives it a power/weight similar to the Corsa VXR.. :grin:
But as others have said, lovely looking car.. Just struggles with it's weight a bit IMO..
How much is this car, and what are it's vital stats, e.g. bhp, engine size, etc.?
Early rumours suggest a 2.0 direct injection 4 pot (similar to ours) kicking out 286bhp :wink:
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that car is awesome, i also owned some VXRs of past and they were fantastic cars too, bang for buck you'll not math them with anything IMO.
Very impressed with this
New Ford ST - 250ps and 266lbft from a 2.0T engine.
If I was under pain of death to choose to own either the VXR or the ST........................it would be the ST :scared: :laugh:
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thats a real "almost made it" car... some really nice lines and designs going on there but somehow it doesnty quite make it, and looks like its trying too hard to do so.
and unfortunatley im now a badge snob too :evilgrin:
matsu
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Agree with Greeners about the alloys...the CF just seems a bit wrong. On a positive note I do like the tread pattern on rubbers...
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Just looks a bit Halfords to me, maybe the CF on the wheels put me off before I saw the rest of the pics........ :chicken:
Yup. Pure chav :sick:
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Not only will 21" tyres be expensive those wheels are :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
However the Insignia is the exception to the rule. Having been in the new Insignia VXR i can safely say that car is a weapon and a half :driver:
...........bloke at work has one in that nice blue colour 320bhp :happy2:
Nice motor that is hindered by a quite frankly ridulous kerb weight.. Estate version is getting on for 2 tonnes :surprised: Which gives it a power/weight similar to the Corsa VXR.. :grin:
But as others have said, lovely looking car.. Just struggles with it's weight a bit IMO..
How much is this car, and what are it's vital stats, e.g. bhp, engine size, etc.?
Early rumours suggest a 2.0 direct injection 4 pot (similar to ours) kicking out 286bhp :wink:
VAG seriously need to look into something more potent that 207hp. Woefully slow compared to the competition.
fWith the alternatives all offering between 50 and 86hp more powerful(as standard) the extra sucharge for having that VW badge suddenly starts to become a large waste of money. Plus the build quality isnt that much better than the others to justify the extra cost,
i think the std engine in the GTI needs to become equivalent to that in the Golf R. that puts the performance smack bang in the centre of the meganne RS, ST, and VXR. Then the Golf R and S3 should be aiming at the 300hp region to target the focus RS
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Couldn't agree more... :jumpmove:
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Is it 4wd? The boot looks very shallow...
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Totally agree with janner, the gti is under serious threat of been left behind, although I would always always pick it for subtle looks and handling,it's putting out around the same power as the new clio's ffs
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thats a real "almost made it" car... some really nice lines and designs going on there but somehow it doesnty quite make it, and looks like its trying too hard to do so.
and unfortunatley im now a badge snob too :evilgrin:
matsu
Agree with Greeners about the alloys...the CF just seems a bit wrong. On a positive note I do like the tread pattern on rubbers...
Agreeing with the above nice shape but they then went bit ott, centre console is to busy have seen planes with less buttons :laugh:
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that car is awesome, i also owned some VXRs of past and they were fantastic cars too, bang for buck you'll not math them with anything IMO.
Very impressed with this
Leon Cupra, same price, better chassis, pisses all over a full bolt on VXR with just a map :happy2:
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that car is awesome, i also owned some VXRs of past and they were fantastic cars too, bang for buck you'll not math them with anything IMO.
Very impressed with this
Leon Cupra, same price, better chassis, pisses all over a full bolt on VXR with just a map :happy2:
Agree
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You won't say that when you consider the resale value.
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I look at Vauxhall cars with an open mind (love the Corsa VXR for example) but this one is OTT and the designers have been trying far too hard. The wheels are truly horrible!
The side looks like a Cupra (the only good thing), the back reminiscent of the Rocco (not good), and the front a mating between Ford and Peugeot. The interior looks a mess.
I don't care how fast it is or how inexpensive to buy... :sick:
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You won't say that when you consider the resale value.
got mine for 17.8k brand new, sold 18 months and 18,000 miles later for 15.6k :laugh:
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looks good , not sure on 21" rims tho
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You won't say that when you consider the resale value.
got mine for 17.8k brand new, sold 18 months and 18,000 miles later for 15.6k :laugh:
Probably a mixture of...an exception to the norm coupled with a mad buyer. :fighting:
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Might just be me, but I'd be in a wheelchair after 18 months of Cupra ownership. I thought Audis had a crashy ride until I drove one of those!
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Might just be me, but I'd be in a wheelchair after 18 months of Cupra ownership. I thought Audis had a crashy ride until I drove one of those!
I would rather be in a wheel chair than an astra
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You won't say that when you consider the resale value.
got mine for 17.8k brand new, sold 18 months and 18,000 miles later for 15.6k :laugh:
Probably a mixture of...an exception to the norm coupled with a mad buyer. :fighting:
Sorry I should have said, got 15.6k for it when trading it in at the audi dealer ;)
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Might just be me, but I'd be in a wheelchair after 18 months of Cupra ownership. I thought Audis had a crashy ride until I drove one of those!
You won't like the tt rs then made the Cupra ride seem tame
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Might just be me, but I'd be in a wheelchair after 18 months of Cupra ownership. I thought Audis had a crashy ride until I drove one of those!
I would rather be in a wheel chair than an astra
:signLOL:
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have always hated the VXR, the only good thing in them are the seats. really wasnt impressed with the handling or the on/off power band.
loved the st, and loved the vRS.
out of interest what sort of 1/4 do modded astras make?
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have always hated the VXR, the only good thing in them are the seats. really wasnt impressed with the handling or the on/off power band.
loved the st, and loved the vRS.
out of interest what sort of 1/4 do modded astras make?
Depends on what mods mate? :confused: Stage 3 VXR's vary from 13.7 - 14.0 @ around 103-104mph
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stage 3 is 290ish territory isnt it?
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stage 3 is 290ish territory isnt it?
290-300bhp depending on what rollers you go on.. These are the best results i've seen mind. There can be some shockers like with any car/driver.. :driver: