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Title: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Hurdy on November 25, 2010, 11:07:24 am
Just fitted some to the missis's car.

Anyone thinking of fitting some to the MKV?

Anyone had winter tyres on their MKV? - What were they like?
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: andrewparker on November 25, 2010, 11:10:52 am

Anyone thinking of fitting some to the MKV?


Yep, ordered some last night. Nankang Snow SV-2. They'll be going on my old 17" Monzas.

Very much looking forward to not having to tiptoe about in this sh*t weather.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Hurdy on November 25, 2010, 11:13:58 am

Anyone thinking of fitting some to the MKV?


Yep, ordered some last night. Nankang Snow SV-2. They'll be going on my old 17" Monzas.

Very much looking forward to not having to tiptoe about in this sh*t weather.

http://www.nankang.com.tw/home.php?fn=eng/product_1&no=11&pno=24

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: danishmkvgti on November 25, 2010, 11:15:01 am

Just fitted some to the missis's car.

Anyone thinking of fitting some to the MKV?

Anyone had winter tyres on their MKV? - What were they like?

I've had 225/45-17" Goodyear performancegrip for 2 seasons, i would highly recommend them.
This season i went for 225/40-18" Vredestein Wintrac, so far an excellent tyre and only struggling at WOT.
When below 7celsius you need wintertyres so no mogging around on all season or summertyres. IMO  :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: andrewparker on November 25, 2010, 11:16:39 am

Anyone thinking of fitting some to the MKV?


Yep, ordered some last night. Nankang Snow SV-2. They'll be going on my old 17" Monzas.

Very much looking forward to not having to tiptoe about in this sh*t weather.

http://www.nankang.com.tw/home.php?fn=eng/product_1&no=11&pno=24

 :happy2:

Dem the ones! I'd have preferred the Vredestein Wintracs but they're very expensive, twice as much as the Nankangs.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: 182_blue on November 25, 2010, 11:32:48 am
Getting my Vredestein Wintracs fitted on mnday so will report back
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: rsreid2000 on November 25, 2010, 11:42:33 am

Anyone thinking of fitting some to the MKV?


Yep, ordered some last night. Nankang Snow SV-2. They'll be going on my old 17" Monzas.

Very much looking forward to not having to tiptoe about in this sh*t weather.

Did u go for this spec:
Nankang Snow SV-2 225/45 R17 94V XL.
Was thinking of some for my 17's
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: PDT on November 25, 2010, 11:44:47 am
I have a friend in Norway, he fits the NOKIAN WRG2 tyres (made in finland) for 6 months of the year and rates them as the best winter tyre around. I have just ordered a set for the BMW in the hope it will actually move somewhere this year.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JPC on November 25, 2010, 11:51:44 am
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: andrewparker on November 25, 2010, 12:03:54 pm

Anyone thinking of fitting some to the MKV?


Yep, ordered some last night. Nankang Snow SV-2. They'll be going on my old 17" Monzas.

Very much looking forward to not having to tiptoe about in this sh*t weather.

Did u go for this spec:
Nankang Snow SV-2 225/45 R17 94V XL.
Was thinking of some for my 17's

Yep, that's the spec :happy2:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: ub7rm on November 25, 2010, 12:05:41 pm
I have a friend in Norway, he fits the NOKIAN WRG2 tyres (made in finland) for 6 months of the year and rates them as the best winter tyre around. I have just ordered a set for the BMW in the hope it will actually move somewhere this year.

I've heard good things about these too
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: s4lek on November 25, 2010, 12:39:58 pm
Came this morning.  Hope there good as everyone says.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fac318%2Fs4lek%2F778fb6ea.jpg&hash=7949e373860c26d8326a1cc1780fa83e084b8247)
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JPC on November 25, 2010, 01:04:52 pm
they are mate, they are brilliant in the ice and snow! ;)
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: ejecter on November 25, 2010, 01:17:59 pm
This may sound like a daft question,do you put winter tyres on all four corners or do you just replace the fronts ?

Neil.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JPC on November 25, 2010, 01:51:25 pm
I really wouldn't recommend using them just on the fronts.

It would be stupid to have the front end gripping and the back end tail happy

I guess it's all to do with your priorities.

This is from someone who had driven with just fronts. Don't do it kids ;) lol
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: s4lek on November 25, 2010, 02:06:18 pm
Kids ?You surely aren't that old mr jpc
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Eccie on November 25, 2010, 02:21:36 pm
I have a friend in Norway, he fits the NOKIAN WRG2 tyres (made in finland) for 6 months of the year and rates them as the best winter tyre around. I have just ordered a set for the BMW in the hope it will actually move somewhere this year.

Thinking of a set of these myself, where did you get them from PDT?  :party:

I am looking at putting them on my 17" monza's can only get them 225 45 17 V and no XL option, just need to double check that this will be ok :confused:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: PDT on November 25, 2010, 02:25:04 pm
225/45/17 Nokians were just £89.20 a tyre from mytyres  :happy2:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JJ on November 25, 2010, 02:25:53 pm
I've just made an enquiry with Camskills about Vredestein Wintracs availability as their website is showing out of stock (225/40 R18).  Their reply was:

Vredestein estimate mid/end January 2011

This is due to a huge shortage in Europe where its required by law in a lot
of countries to run winter tyres. and as such England is not being supplied
many tyres at present, and more people in England have ordered than normal
adding to the shortage. We are not taking back orders as these dates are
estimated,and if they do come in after that date, VAT will have gone up.

HTH if you're thinking  the same as me.  The search continues...
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: RedRobin on November 25, 2010, 05:10:00 pm

This is due to a huge shortage in Europe where its required by law in a lot
of countries to run winter tyres.
and as such England is not being supplied
many tyres at present, and more people in England have ordered than normal
adding to the shortage.


....Luckily for me I don't ever need to drive anywhere when there's snow and so I run my Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics all year and have had no problems even when -5 degrees Centigrade. But what's exactly the law in Europe? What are the parameters?
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: danishmkvgti on November 25, 2010, 05:16:32 pm

This is due to a huge shortage in Europe where its required by law in a lot
of countries to run winter tyres.
and as such England is not being supplied
many tyres at present, and more people in England have ordered than normal
adding to the shortage.


....Luckily for me I don't ever need to drive anywhere when there's snow and so I run my Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics all year and have had no problems even when -5 degrees Centigrade. But what's exactly the law in Europe? What are the parameters?

Germany, Norway and Sweden are to my knowledge contries that by law requires wintertyres, but in which exact period i'm not sure. Denmark Had a long and hard last winter and us having snow so early has left most tyresuppliers out of stock, so it's a good thing i had been looking for new wintertyres since last winter  :grin:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 25, 2010, 05:38:20 pm
they dont state a period in germany, however if you crash ands the temp is below 7o or in snow then you can be held liable for the accident even if you didnt cause it.  

It wasnt law for the british soldiers over there to use winter tyres however on many occasions insurance companies refused to pay out, and many guys got fined for holding up traffic in the snow due to having incorrect tyres for the conditions.Most never bothered as they had never experienced them in the UK so thought it wasnt needed.  but once you have had winter tyres you will use them every year from then on.

I always laugh at people who are slipping about and crashing, when im driving around largely without any issues.  

People whine about the cost, the way i see it, its saving mileage on the summer tyres as well as saving your alloys and suspension for when you belt a kerb.

Ive always gone fro vredestein wintrac or quattrac tyres which are excellent.  this year ive gone for nankang snow SV-2 tyres.  goodreviews and very reasonable costs
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: RedRobin on November 25, 2010, 06:04:09 pm

they dont state a period in germany, however if you crash ands the temp is below 7o or in snow then you can be held liable for the accident even if you didnt cause it. 
 

Is that below +7 or -7?

So when do you put your winter rubber on in the UK, Sy, and when (month?) will you go back to 'normal' rubber? - Obviously subject to the actual weather period.

Btw, thx for the info  :happy2:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 25, 2010, 06:09:18 pm

they dont state a period in germany, however if you crash ands the temp is below 7o or in snow then you can be held liable for the accident even if you didnt cause it. 
 

Is that below +7 or -7?

So when do you put your winter rubber on in the UK, Sy, and when (month?) will you go back to 'normal' rubber? - Obviously subject to the actual weather period.

Btw, thx for the info  :happy2:

+7o

I haven't put them on yet, they are on route to my house as of last night.  snow has arrived nearly a month earlier this year so it caught me out.

I normally put them on when it gets consistently below around 5degrees+ tbh.  Ill take them back off when its consitently above that with no more risk of snow.

back in germany i had a spare set of rims with winter tyres on, so i used to chop and change.  wasnt an issue as we had ramps and hydraulic bolt guns in work.

this year they are going the orginal rims so  ill leave them on until i see fit to change.  but obhviously at £10-15 per corner to swap, or dont want to be making that decision to early
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: RedRobin on November 25, 2010, 06:16:02 pm
^^^^
Plus 7º!!!! Crikey!

Trouble is that the UK is always unpredictable in its weather. I selfishly really hope they don't make it law here whether it's safer or not. Still, the UK always lags well behind in its laws - Look at DRL legislation!
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 25, 2010, 06:25:37 pm
i think it should be law.  europe carries on with snow as if its not happening.  tghe uk comes top a halt at the thought of snow, and there are so many accidets/deaths as a result of no law stating people shall use winter tyres.  

in germany they used to sell sets of 4 winter tyres on steel rims for less than £100 euro at supermarketsl. thery dont have to bew super high performance, its all in the rubber compound.

the summer tyre rubber compounds harden below 70  thus losing potential grip levels, the winter tyres can go much lower without this happening.

^^^^
Plus 7º!!!! Crikey!


this is what we were informed when we arrived over there.  so it might not be strictly true, although id be pretty sure that they got that info from somewhere, and never made it up
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: RedRobin on November 25, 2010, 06:42:59 pm
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I hear where you're coming from. It just seems to me that a +7º legal threshold is somewhat draconian.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 25, 2010, 06:46:30 pm
.
I hear where you're coming from. It just seems to me that a +7º legal threshold is somewhat draconian.

this is the reason why Britain grinds to a halt and Europe doesn't lol.  the UK doesnt like change just look at the riots.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: RedRobin on November 25, 2010, 06:51:02 pm
^^^^
Typically English people hate any kind of change - Anything unfamiliar or new is "absoloootely dreadful, dahling"... "We simply don't do that kind of thing here!"
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: rudy on November 26, 2010, 03:28:57 pm
fitted maragoni to 17 monzas , so far they are very good  , miles better than driving on ice with f 1,s , fit tyres all around not just to front drive wheeles it can be dangerious it will make you under/oversteer on corners 
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: PDT on November 26, 2010, 04:32:03 pm
mytyres have the Nokian GR tyres in stock at good prices if people are looking for winter tyres, most places are sold out already.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: calculon on November 26, 2010, 07:34:39 pm
Put some Bridgestone Wintersport 3Ds on last week. In Belgium there is no law like in Germany that you need to adapt your car to the weather. I'm not really pro laws for everything, but if I see how Belgium grinds to a halt if there's only a little bit of snowfall, it wouldn't be a bad idea to enforce the same type of law like in Germany :-)
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: PND on November 26, 2010, 08:02:10 pm
I've just put some Yokohama V902A W.Drive winter tyres on mine.. because of that, of course, it's been bright sunshine all day... :sad1:  I little bit of snow would be nice, purely for testing purposes!


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FPND8162%2FCar_pics%2FYokohama_V902a.jpg&hash=05c8463003953fbae46b6880f3ab0dc5a7428551)
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Poverty on November 26, 2010, 08:12:50 pm
Mine will be staying at home when its icy or snowing, but winter tyres are a good idea, I can spin the car up pretty easy now even with 4wd
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: searly on November 26, 2010, 09:15:18 pm
i was working in Austria last winter ,  when i picked up the car , was told it was on winter tyres .   I couldnot believe the speed people were zipping around .   Temp was - 15 during the day .  But will say 2 things ,   they are prepared and funded for bad wheather , the clearing operation is 24 / 7 .  not like this country ( ohh were running out of salt we have had a couple of bad weeks and we have non left )  snow ploughs every were.

2 ) The cold is different , get out of the hotel at 08.00 temp -10 /  -17 yet cars never needed scrapping , they were perectly clear .  the air just took your breath away , but not once did you ever feel the car was not in control on the roads
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: heavyd on November 26, 2010, 11:08:34 pm
I just put 2 hankook icebear w300 on the front, made a massive difference. I only heard of winter tyres through this forum :rolleye:
I got stuck in the street before I went to the tyre fitters, had no wheelspin whatsoever on the way back :happy2:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Frodo-anni on November 27, 2010, 01:31:44 am
I just put 2 hankook icebear w300 on the front, made a massive difference. I only heard of winter tyres through this forum :rolleye:
I got stuck in the street before I went to the tyre fitters, had no wheelspin whatsoever on the way back :happy2:

 :rolleye: Really would try get some to go on the back also, it only takes one corner and the back goes round and your soon facing the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: icenutter on November 27, 2010, 08:15:00 am
People whine about the cost, the way i see it, its saving mileage on the summer tyres as well as saving your alloys and suspension for when you belt a kerb.
Also, if you are keeping a car for a while, then you probably get through a few sets of tyres anyway, so having two sets doesn't really cost more apart from the costs of swapping over.  i.e. if a set of tyres lasts 10,000 miles then you are just splitting that between two sets, so they last around a total of 20,000 miles between them.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: PND on November 27, 2010, 11:50:59 am
Got up fairly early this morning to give the Yokos a bit of a test and so far the results are great!  :happy2:  No sign of wheelspin and the car felt stuck to the road..

Not surprising though as we've only had about 1" on snow overnight and the main roads had been gritted! :signLOL:

Driving round a car park that was still covered with snow was a bit easier than last year, when I just had my "not-far-off-slicks" Contis on!

More to follow I think.... 

Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: SKAVIA on November 27, 2010, 05:08:03 pm
I've just ordered a set of Pirelli Winter 240 Snowsports.
Will let you all know how they fair compared to Michelin PS2s (this is for my Audi not the Ed30) although we haven't had any snow in Surrey yet  :laugh:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JJ on November 27, 2010, 08:05:06 pm
I really wanted some Vredestein Wintracs but I think I'm gonna struggle to find some before January so I've ordered some Nokian WR G2's.
I'd almost dismissed the idea but got called out at work today down into the Cotswolds and was all over the place in the van so decided to shod my pride and joy with some
appropriate winter wheel wear.  Gotta make sense annit?
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Eccie on November 27, 2010, 11:13:15 pm
I really wanted some Vredestein Wintracs but I think I'm gonna struggle to find some before January so I've ordered some Nokian WR G2's.
I'd almost dismissed the idea but got called out at work today down into the Cotswolds and was all over the place in the van so decided to shod my pride and joy with some
appropriate winter wheel wear.  Gotta make sense annit?

Where did you get your Nokian WR G2's from?

I had placed an order with mytyres 4 days ago, for which they debited my account, got an email today to say they haven't got any stock in my size 17"  :fighting:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: parks on November 27, 2010, 11:24:27 pm
looks like the prices are going up on the tyres from the online retailers..
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: 182_blue on November 28, 2010, 07:07:21 am
looks like the prices are going up on the tyres from the online retailers..

Yeh not much, I paid £130 for mine from Mytyres a few weeks back, they now want £232.00 !!!
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: 182_blue on November 28, 2010, 09:01:43 am
LOL, £242 now !!!, overnight price increase

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=51392358.110.32559&typ=R-149364&ranzahl=4&Breite=235&Quer=35&Felge=19&Speed=H&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=20&Transport=P&dsco=110&sowigan=Wi
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: andrewparker on November 28, 2010, 09:36:07 am
I had placed an order with mytyres 4 days ago, for which they debited my account, got an email today to say they haven't got any stock in my size 17"  :fighting:

Did you get to the point where you had received your fitting voucher?

I ordered the Nankang Snow SV-2 at £78 per tyre, and they're £138 per tyre today! I've got my voucher etc. so I presume everything is fine.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: parks on November 28, 2010, 11:37:02 am
The price hike makes me sick, I understand supply and demand but that's crazy. Cheaper to pay the excess if I crash.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JJ on November 28, 2010, 11:58:15 am
I really wanted some Vredestein Wintracs but I think I'm gonna struggle to find some before January so I've ordered some Nokian WR G2's.
I'd almost dismissed the idea but got called out at work today down into the Cotswolds and was all over the place in the van so decided to shod my pride and joy with some
appropriate winter wheel wear.  Gotta make sense annit?

Where did you get your Nokian WR G2's from?

I had placed an order with mytyres 4 days ago, for which they debited my account, got an email today to say they haven't got any stock in my size 17"  :fighting:

Same place as you Eccie but I need 18"s.  I'll keep an eye on my e-mail Inbox...
 
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: SteveP on November 28, 2010, 08:39:47 pm
Well I am all winter tyre'ed up, a couple of very cheap sets of wheels from ebay.

Mine: -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2F3f024a3b.jpg&hash=40e7f2196979eadaddeefc204ca0bc2fc95c59d9)

Conti WinterContact's on some Audi 17's, didn't think the 16's would fit over the porker brakes, but looks like they would with some careful placement of the balancing weights, but any way mine won't be doing many miles if the snow does really come down.

The A3 with it's nice 16's will be the one to tackle the snow: -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkk207%2FStevep_010%2F3a02e053.jpg&hash=daa1497afd46fdccdbcb37f9addc9c1977f7f0c5)

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Eccie on November 28, 2010, 09:45:16 pm
I had placed an order with mytyres 4 days ago, for which they debited my account, got an email today to say they haven't got any stock in my size 17"  :fighting:

Did you get to the point where you had received your fitting voucher?

I ordered the Nankang Snow SV-2 at £78 per tyre, and they're £138 per tyre today! I've got my voucher etc. so I presume everything is fine.

No voucher - as it was delivery only

I'm not sure they carry any stock, they may just source them once they have a firm order

mytyres = mya#se :rolleye:

Hope you guys get your orders
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: rudy on November 29, 2010, 02:38:26 pm
snow heaver here , and compacted into ice on main roads , maragonis winter tyre  worked really well , kwic fit sell them and have loads in stock , they are cheaper from kwic fit than my tyres ,
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: RedRobin on November 29, 2010, 02:53:28 pm
.
I think that most of the dangers may not be due to how you cope having winter tyres, but what can happen as a result of other drivers unfortunately losing control, though not necessarily their fault.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 29, 2010, 04:28:11 pm
I had placed an order with mytyres 4 days ago, for which they debited my account, got an email today to say they haven't got any stock in my size 17"  :fighting:

Did you get to the point where you had received your fitting voucher?

I ordered the Nankang Snow SV-2 at £78 per tyre, and they're £138 per tyre today! I've got my voucher etc. so I presume everything is fine.

No voucher - as it was delivery only

I'm not sure they carry any stock, they may just source them once they have a firm order

mytyres = mya#se :rolleye:

Hope you guys get your orders

my snow SV-2s have just arrived.  got a deal with the local tyre centre for £10 per corner for fitting.  bargain

this was from mytyres.  ordered on friday morning. arrived 9am this morning.  cant argue with that
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JJ on November 29, 2010, 04:45:52 pm
I had placed an order with mytyres 4 days ago, for which they debited my account, got an email today to say they haven't got any stock in my size 17"  :fighting:

Did you get to the point where you had received your fitting voucher?

I ordered the Nankang Snow SV-2 at £78 per tyre, and they're £138 per tyre today! I've got my voucher etc. so I presume everything is fine.

No voucher - as it was delivery only

I'm not sure they carry any stock, they may just source them once they have a firm order

mytyres = mya#se :rolleye:

Hope you guys get your orders

my snow SV-2s have just arrived.  got a deal with the local tyre centre for £10 per corner for fitting.  bargain

this was from mytyres.  ordered on friday morning. arrived 9am this morning.  cant argue with that

mytyres e-mailed me today asking me to fax a copy of my last gas/leccy bill to a random Birmingham number "because of data security rules" to prove my identity.  Seems my name, credit card details,  home and work addresses, e-mail address and phone numbers are insufficient.  Order cancelled by me.
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: Janner_Sy on November 29, 2010, 04:50:04 pm
it might pay to email them and let them know. that sounds a little dodgy.  i gave them my card details, name, address and email and thats it
Title: Re: Winter tyres - you have some?
Post by: JJ on November 29, 2010, 04:55:11 pm
it might pay to email them and let them know. that sounds a little dodgy.  i gave them my card details, name, address and email and thats it

I rang them this afternoon.  No answer so left a message then I e-mailed them but I've had no reply.  I don't do faxing of utility bills especially when they've got my credit card number, security number etc.  Their registered office is Oxford I think but I was asked to fax an 0121 number.  Sounds dodgy to me guv.