MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: DanoGTI on February 18, 2009, 05:57:31 pm

Title: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on February 18, 2009, 05:57:31 pm: Just reading through the service manuals that TT put up.

Are the speakers riveted in place? It talks about drilling out the rivets :surprised:

If so, GOD, that's a bit drastic!!!

Dan
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: TomB on February 18, 2009, 06:14:42 pm: They should be, MK4 Golf speakers were also riveted in so its been going on for a good 10 years.

My MK4 Ibiza had similar speakers to the MK4 Golf, when you drill the rivets it melts the plastic surround built onto the speaker so you pretty much can't reuse them either.
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: stealthwolf on February 18, 2009, 06:16:53 pm: Woah! This I did not know.
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Post by: vwrascal on February 18, 2009, 06:20:14 pm: thats weird, bit of a sh""ter when changing speakers then! :confused:
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: SteveS on February 18, 2009, 06:24:43 pm: erm, i didnt think mine were when i got it back from the installer... but come to think of it, i dont remember seeing an screews either...
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on February 18, 2009, 06:25:05 pm: Yeh have a look at G5 91 eng.pdf p68 of 103.....

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1797.0

Dan
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2009, 11:33:58 pm: the speakerd are rivet in from new..nothing a drill can,t sort out
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 22, 2009, 04:26:30 pm: The speakers are definitely riveted... I saw this first hand when having my tints done and the fitters had to remove the interior door cards/panels.

I did think it was a bit crap, but I guess it saves on weight and production costs. None of these are helpful to the likes of us interested in upgrading the speakers...
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on February 22, 2009, 04:46:25 pm: Soooo...... for those who've upgraded, how did you do it?
Are there still screw points, or do you have to re-rivet?

Dan :)
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: Andy on February 22, 2009, 07:02:37 pm: when i up graded my speakers i made wooden adapters which i screwed to the door,then fastened the speaker to it..
i have seen some where you can buy adapters now for after market speakers
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: TomB on February 22, 2009, 11:49:02 pm: When I did my Ibiza, Autoleads didnt make adaptors, so I got some 18mm MDF and fitted my speakers on custom mounts.

It took a lot of maths as space was limited, and I've not touched my MK5 so I would advise looking at speaker dimensions and most importantly, review the amount of space you have between the door card and the window regulator plate, and the space between the other side of that plate and the window when its fully down. The last thing you want to do is smash 2 side windows on the magnets, or crush your new speakers screwing the door card back on.
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on February 24, 2009, 03:25:52 pm: Thanks all,

The thought of "damage" had crossed my mind too :embarrassed:
Will have to do some homework I think.

I was just shocked at the whole rivet aspect!!! :laugh:

Dan :)
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: bennylenny88 on March 28, 2009, 11:51:36 am: easy mate :) took them out myself :) :P
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on March 28, 2009, 12:05:17 pm: I'm sure it's easy - just didn't expect this LOL!! :)

Dan
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: bennylenny88 on March 28, 2009, 12:47:22 pm: haha what set have you settled for?
i have hertz energy 3 ways..
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on March 28, 2009, 12:57:49 pm: I don't have my car yet (long story - dealers are useless!!LOL! :P)

I've already got a rather pleasant 12" Kenwood Sub and JBL amp for the boot (wheel arch install)
Spec'd a Pioneer F700BT and the speakers well......

Looking at JL Audio or JBL stuff tbh. Quite like the Dynaudio stuff too.
Will also be putting a 4ch amp in.

Pretty much a total overhaul of the car lol!! :)

Dan
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: oldtomo on April 26, 2009, 09:01:49 pm: Did you ever get this sorted mate? What did you do about the rivets?
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on April 26, 2009, 10:17:09 pm: LOL - still no car. Walked away from one at the weekend.

However, as a forward plan, I'm going to change the speakers for definite. Drill out the old ones, and fit new ones with self-tappers :) To ensure it all stays in place (and to stop the drivers resonating), I'm going to use sticky rubber/foam strips.
Failing the use of self-tappers, I've got some m-bolts which can be used (bit like mini-mechano!!LOL!!)

Anyway, it's all academic as I don't have my car yet (not long though hopefully!! :party: )

Dan :)
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: pazz on December 02, 2009, 10:19:39 pm: Bring this one back to life...

Just though I'd let people know that Autoleads do a Golf MK5 speaker adaptor kit for the 6.5" fronts. Makes the job a lot quicker and saves you getting the MDF + Jigsaw out.

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/7907.html (http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/7907.html)

Now I just need to find one for the 4"!
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: DanoGTI on December 03, 2009, 07:57:59 am: Nice one Pazz!
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: Gti Jal on December 19, 2009, 06:34:20 pm: I used the Autoleads adapters and re-riveted them on. You need to use a 4.8mm rivets. Easy peasy.
Title: Re: Is this true? speakers on the Mk5 are riveted in place.....
Post by: Andy on December 20, 2009, 10:30:50 pm: i wish the Autoleads adapters for the speakers where about whenni changed all my speakers in my golf when i did it 5 years ago