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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Degudodger on November 25, 2010, 09:07:43 pm

Title: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 25, 2010, 09:07:43 pm
Ok Guys,

I have had my Macbook Pro for 18 months now and recently it has been running slow with a fair amount of pinwheeling and at pretty much a constant 80c.

Spec
2.53 Ghz Core 2 Duo
4GB Ram
500GB Hard with over 100GB free
Running OS X 10.6.5

It has been a gradual deterioration and i would rather not do a system restore  but if needs be i will.

Any thoughts as to what could be causing this?
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: vRS Carl on November 25, 2010, 09:21:40 pm
Go into Apps >Utilities>Activity Monitor.

Look at the running processes and see what is using the CPU.

Also click on Settings>User Accounts>Login Items. See if there are any programs that are running at startup that you don't need.

Lastly download a program called Onyx (used to be free I think it still is) run that program before you go to bed and let it run overnight. Then just run that once every 3-4 months and it should be fine :happy2:
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 25, 2010, 09:33:43 pm
Activity Monitor isn't showing anything obvious. Looks I'm about 15 pages into the Apple Support Discussions and i'm beginning to loose the will to live!
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Garth on November 25, 2010, 10:19:25 pm
Activity Monitor isn't showing anything obvious. Looks I'm about 15 pages into the Apple Support Discussions and i'm beginning to loose the will to live!
Should have bought a windows laptop  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 25, 2010, 10:21:13 pm
Activity Monitor isn't showing anything obvious. Looks I'm about 15 pages into the Apple Support Discussions and i'm beginning to loose the will to live!
Should have bought a windows laptop  :evilgrin:

Lets not go down the Mac V Pc road as we know Mac's are far better  :happy2:
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: vRS Carl on November 25, 2010, 10:23:45 pm
Did you get AppleCare when you bought it?

If so take it to an Apple Store and they will look at it for you.

I would try Onyx first though
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: andrewparker on November 25, 2010, 10:45:34 pm
Sounds like you need to reset the PRAM
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Jules86 on November 25, 2010, 10:57:31 pm
My girlfriends mac died because she used it on a pillow on her lap all the time. Does it have sufficient cooling allowance?
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: bacillus on November 25, 2010, 11:10:30 pm
For a pc I would say that speed is being throttled because of cpu overheating.
A can of compressed air to clear out any accumulated debris on the cpu heatsink may be beneficial.
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: rich83 on November 26, 2010, 11:45:48 pm
Ant.... does it run the same on a guest account?

A new install with "archive and install" wouldnt hurt!
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: h4rdy on November 27, 2010, 01:05:26 am
Could be the HD failing.

That would make it slow as it would be trying to access data all the time.

Which in turn would make it hot as its constantly spinning and accessing.

As somebody else said try the Guest Account or set up another trial account.

If its still doing it I will put money on its the HD.

I have a Mac and PC and the PC one failed and this had the same symptoms.

Just put a 640gb HD into the Macbook Pro so if you need any advice just ask.

J
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: h4rdy on November 27, 2010, 01:06:50 am
And BACKUP everything NOW!

Do not put it off, if the HD fails thats it!
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: cmdrfire on November 27, 2010, 01:57:23 pm
Activity Monitor isn't showing anything obvious. Looks I'm about 15 pages into the Apple Support Discussions and i'm beginning to loose the will to live!
Should have bought a windows laptop  :evilgrin:

Lets not go down the Mac V Pc road as we know Mac's are far better  :happy2:

Macs are PCs - they are personal computers. The hardware your Mac runs on is identical to the hardware on a nicely spec'd Windows machine. I think you mean "Mac V Windows".

And no, they're not.


/obvious troll is obvious?

//also, to be somewhat helpful and not make you entirely disgusted with me, similar issues on my mum's iMac resulted in eventual hdd failure. Back up everything NOW if you haven't already, and buy a replacement hdd to fit in there sooner rather than later. Avoid moving hundreds of files at once - this is what caused hers to eventually fall over. Recommend you back up files incrementally over a course of day in small batches, starting with the most important files first.

///Remember kids, HEAT results in hdd death. In a laptop resting on a duvet or a pillow or a cushion, the problem is magnified.
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: vRS Carl on November 27, 2010, 03:14:00 pm
If you don't use it i highly recommend Time Machine for Backup's

Saved my bacon a few times :happy2:
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: rich83 on November 27, 2010, 10:48:00 pm
Another vote for TC.... mines connected to a TM!
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 28, 2010, 10:04:31 am
Activity Monitor isn't showing anything obvious. Looks I'm about 15 pages into the Apple Support Discussions and i'm beginning to loose the will to live!
Should have bought a windows laptop  :evilgrin:

Lets not go down the Mac V Pc road as we know Mac's are far better  :happy2:

Macs are PCs - they are personal computers. The hardware your Mac runs on is identical to the hardware on a nicely spec'd Windows machine. I think you mean "Mac V Windows".

And no, they're not.


/obvious troll is obvious?

//also, to be somewhat helpful and not make you entirely disgusted with me, similar issues on my mum's iMac resulted in eventual hdd failure. Back up everything NOW if you haven't already, and buy a replacement hdd to fit in there sooner rather than later. Avoid moving hundreds of files at once - this is what caused hers to eventually fall over. Recommend you back up files incrementally over a course of day in small batches, starting with the most important files first.

///Remember kids, HEAT results in hdd death. In a laptop resting on a duvet or a pillow or a cushion, the problem is magnified.

Completely agree. I maintain a regular housekeeping routine for all the computers (used as a generic term) in our house, both the Macbook and iMac use WD Passport 500gb external hard drives as back ups on a 72 hour cycle and the media server which is also used to backup my 100GB+ of photos is on a Rad 1 configuration. I also back up the photos on a 500gb external Hard drive. Overkill i know but once bitten!

I tend to use the Macbook on a table on in conjunction with a lapcooler cooler when slouching on the sofa so the rear heat vent is never obstructed
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 28, 2010, 10:05:40 am
Ant.... does it run the same on a guest account?

A new install with "archive and install" wouldnt hurt!

Rich,

Tried a guest account and it does run a little quicker so I am assuming the issue is software related and not Hardware.
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 28, 2010, 10:07:16 am
Another vote for TC.... mines connected to a TM!

Agree
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: vRS Carl on November 28, 2010, 10:09:36 am
What software have you got running at startup?
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 28, 2010, 10:11:17 am
Activity Monitor isn't showing anything obvious. Looks I'm about 15 pages into the Apple Support Discussions and i'm beginning to loose the will to live!
Should have bought a windows laptop  :evilgrin:
:signLOL: Yeah Yeah.
 
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 28, 2010, 10:14:18 am
What software have you got running at startup?

Connect360Helper - streams content from itunes to Xbox over a home network
iAntiVirus - This has been removed as it was killing my CPU usage which is apparently a known issue

 
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: andrewparker on November 28, 2010, 10:15:04 am
Do you run Onyx?
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: Degudodger on November 28, 2010, 10:18:50 am
VRS Carl pointed me in the direction of Onyx which i have been using over the past couple of days. I have repaired the hard drive permissions a couple of times and it has made it more stable but the overall performance is a lot less than it was 6 months ago.
Title: Re: Macbook Pro running slow and HOT!
Post by: vRS Carl on November 28, 2010, 10:28:01 am
Have you used it properly.

This is what you should have ticked

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Make sure you have this version aswell

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It will prob start up and run slightly slower for the first couple of days but then it "should" get noticeably quicker.

I also recommend a program called "Clean My Mac" you will be surprised at the amount of crap you get rid of. Even on a Mac!!