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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: DavyP on February 19, 2009, 12:43:23 pm
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Well following on from the opinions on the RS Focus thread and my mulling over the possibility of buying one, I have just placed my order.
I've gone for the White with the Luxury Pack, costs a scarey amount of money for a Ford but I just took a liking to it so thought what the f...k i'll do it. I look at people who live there life full of regrets and say they wish they did it different, well I've decided lifes for enjoying and moneys just paper so im gonna toss some away :grin:
To be honest what its costing isnt all that far off from what I could have spent on mods when you get round to lsd's, brakes, suspension, intercoolers and fuel pumps etc.
I know its not everyones cup of tea but I think it sounds good and seems to be getting very positive feed back.
Have a sound clip on me......... :laugh:
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Go for it fella, Im in full agreement with your philosophy :happy2:
If not your choice in car :signLOL: Only kidding :wink:
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I reckon youll love it, and besides itll be relatively rare :happy2:
Remember and bring it to the pod :evilgrin:
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good decision mate i think it looks the business :happy2:
300 bhp and 440nm straight out the box with lsd, big brakes and what looks like a top notch suspension set up for 25k
i would never have bought an ST but this looks like in another league, if only VW had done all these differences when releasing the ED30 over the normal GTi, they couldnt even be arsed to improve the brakes :fighting:
would easily cost £8-£10k to get the ed30 close to this bad boy
as for the badge snobs out there when this comes wizzing past you on the roads I think it will make you think twice
when is the expected pick up date?
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The first allocation are sold, so the way it works is you fill in a notice of intent to buy and pay a deposit, its sent to Ford and they give you a build date, theres no demos coming to the dealer I'm buying from and they are the largest Ford dealer in my locality, looks like it could be a long wait as the first production run was delayed by a few months. I'm gonna shift the ED30 soonish to avoid further depreciation and use the wifes Bluemotion Golf :sad:
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Good on you, it'll be an absolute animal I'm sure! You're in Northern Ireland, is that right? I've driven some cracking roads over there up near Coleraine etc where you don't see a soul for miles and it's like going back in time to the old days over here. One of those is the ideal weapon for them.
Sadly I live within stealing distance of Manchester and it wouldn't stay on the drive for 2 minutes!
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Yep, good roads up round Coleraine/County Antrim coast.
Going there this weekend for a relaxing spa break :embarrassed:.
I live in a village and luckily not too much crime in this area. I have a huge German Shepherd, who although friendly, isnt too welcoming to unexpected visitors. :evilgrin:
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would easily cost £8-£10k to get the ed30 close to this bad boy
No way..
Coils - £700
LSD - £1200
Re-Map - £500
Cupra brakes with decent pads - £700
And it would easily be as fast round a track..
With £8-10K it would completely destroy it!!!!
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They are nice indeed, I've got friends in Portrush so have battered those roads a few times. Happy days as they say!
It's a pain over here, thankfully it's virtually unheard of in the village where I live now as it's much further away, but it was in my previous town. As there's nothing worth stealing in their own sh**holes, they come travelling to the nice places and nick our stuff. An RS would stick out like a sore thumb and you'd be followed....
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would easily cost £8-£10k to get the ed30 close to this bad boy
No way..
Coils - £700
LSD - £1200
Re-Map - £500
Cupra brakes with decent pads - £700
Tis true it could probably be done cheaper, but its nice to know the kit on the RS Focus has been extensively tested and is under warranty and issues such as clutch slip etc. shouldn't occur.
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would easily cost £8-£10k to get the ed30 close to this bad boy
No way..
Coils - £700
LSD - £1200
Re-Map - £500
Cupra brakes with decent pads - £700
Tis true it could probably be done cheaper, but its nice to know the kit on the RS Focus has been extensively tested and is under warranty and issues such as clutch slip etc. shouldn't occur.
I wouldn't bet my life on it. That's what they all thought about the Nissan GT-R and it's launch control. Now they have a few lawsuits pending!! :surprised:
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Congrats on your purchase! Great choice, I really rate the new RS. I think it will be a cracking little car!!!
Lovely noise too, that turbo chatter is :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: ........How can I get it on mine!!?
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Tis true it could probably be done cheaper, but its nice to know the kit on the RS Focus has been extensively tested and is under warranty and issues such as clutch slip etc. shouldn't occur.
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I wouldn't bet my life on it. That's what they all thought about the Nissan GT-R and it's launch control. Now they have a few lawsuits pending!! :surprised:
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Hence I used "shouldn't and not won't ..... :signLOL:
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I think it should be fine, the reason the GTR is under so much stress is because of the 4WD and the launch control that builds boost for the launch, they have been stripping the teeth off first gear..
I inquired about an RS yesterday but they said it would be September.. I can't wait for anything so im going to see what happens when they come out, either way its going to be a very capable car from standard!
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Good luck mate, I did consider one after the ST but my ST's hideous mpg put me off, that and the fact mine was about the same power as the RS, oh but my brakes were better :signLOL:
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I was a bit wary that the dealers claims of the first batch being snapped up where the usual bluster, but reading various forums etc. it would seem there is quite a wait to be had as Ford is building less in the first run than was originally anticipated. I'm really impatient too, but i'm using the delay as a chance to save up a bit so as I have to use less finance. I own the ED 30 outright so not too far off....
The MPG doesnt worry me, wife has a company car so any lengthy runs are done in it as she gets free fuel. I spend very little on fuel as I don't do mega mileage so the drop wont have a huge impact. I hope......
Im expecting the MPG to make an r32 look frugal....
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Do you have any bits from the ed30 that you may sell ?
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Davy P great choice, the Focus RS is the Hot Hatch to have ! reading the 37 page press release on it and it seems Ford are out for blood !
It sounds brutal too ! amazing car ! let us know when you get it !
what does the luxury pack contain ?
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Do you have any bits from the ed30 that you may sell ?
Just the Evoms intake, its barely a month old.....
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Davy P great choice, the Focus RS is the Hot Hatch to have ! reading the 37 page press release on it and it seems Ford are out for blood !
It sounds brutal too ! amazing car ! let us know when you get it !
what does the luxury pack contain ?
Parking Sensors, Rain sensors, Automatic lights, key free system, deflation detection system, DEATC air conditioning (i dont know what it is either!) a few other minor things. Its a £750 option pack, pricey but adds a few things for the lazy driver. Sat Nav is an additional £750 on top of this.
Heres the press release for those with time to kill.....
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/full_press_release_new_ford_focus_rs.html
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300 bhp and 440nm straight out the box with lsd, big brakes and what looks like a top notch suspension set up for 25k
Make you wonder what just a Stage 1 remap will produce :grin: :drool: :evilgrin:
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300 bhp and 440nm straight out the box with lsd, big brakes and what looks like a top notch suspension set up for 25k
Make you wonder what just a Stage 1 remap will produce :grin: :drool: :evilgrin:
Thats what im really interested in.. Im really intrigued to know if there is going to be a lot of headroom in the tubo etc? So will the re-map for the RS get you any more power than a re-mapped ST??
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From the youtube clip, I presume the RS will be on 5th Gear on Monday .... I'll be interested in what Plato says about the RevoKnuckle Technology and how good it really is .... they make a big play about it in the press release :-
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According to John Wheeler, the importance of RevoKnuckle to Focus RS cannot be underestimated:
“All-wheel-drive or rear-wheel-drive have long been default options for managing torque in a high-performance vehicle. We used AWD on RS models in the 80s and 90s, but it creates significant compromises in weight, fuel economy and the cost/ performance balance. Through combined efforts of our Research and Dynamics teams, we have created a solution that simply redefines what is possible with front-wheel-drive,†he says.
Summarising the benefits of RevoKnuckle, Densing says: “RevoKnuckle gives the adjustability of a race-car style, double wishbone suspension, in a cost-effective McPherson architecture.â€Â
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300 bhp and 440nm straight out the box with lsd, big brakes and what looks like a top notch suspension set up for 25k
Make you wonder what just a Stage 1 remap will produce :grin: :drool: :evilgrin:
not alot imo, as isnt it basically a remapped ST ? (maybe a new turbo too though, even then the ST boys with big turbos only ran at about 340)
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I'm gonna stick my neck out here... if the RS's handling/grip is as good as they're making out, then the R20T better be light to try and keep up.
You might not like the image, but there could be a quantum leap here. I hope the motor isn't just a remapped ST one to save costs.
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From the youtube clip, I presume the RS will be on 5th Gear on Monday .... I'll be interested in what Tiff (?) says about the RevoKnuckle Technology and how good it really is .... they make a big play about it in the press release :-
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According to John Wheeler, the importance of RevoKnuckle to Focus RS cannot be underestimated:
“All-wheel-drive or rear-wheel-drive have long been default options for managing torque in a high-performance vehicle. We used AWD on RS models in the 80s and 90s, but it creates significant compromises in weight, fuel economy and the cost/ performance balance. Through combined efforts of our Research and Dynamics teams, we have created a solution that simply redefines what is possible with front-wheel-drive,†he says.
Summarising the benefits of RevoKnuckle, Densing says: “RevoKnuckle gives the adjustability of a race-car style, double wishbone suspension, in a cost-effective McPherson architecture.â€Â
An ST is good for around 300hp with intake, exhaust and a map etc so it will be interesting to see if the RS has the same potential 75hp increase available from similar mods, which would make it no more potent than a similarly modded ED30..
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Very, very nice vid/soundclip.
Imagine what it would sound like on a Milltek or similar exhaust!
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300 bhp and 440nm straight out the box with lsd, big brakes and what looks like a top notch suspension set up for 25k
Make you wonder what just a Stage 1 remap will produce :grin: :drool: :evilgrin:
not alot imo, as isnt it basically a remapped ST ? (maybe a new turbo too though, even then the ST boys with big turbos only ran at about 340)
if you watch the video on fords website, the chap states its got a bigger turbo and all new engine internals to cope with the power - it is not just a simple remap.
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300 bhp and 440nm straight out the box with lsd, big brakes and what looks like a top notch suspension set up for 25k
Make you wonder what just a Stage 1 remap will produce :grin: :drool: :evilgrin:
not alot imo, as isnt it basically a remapped ST ? (maybe a new turbo too though, even then the ST boys with big turbos only ran at about 340)
It's hugely different to the ST engine. Totally new block made from a new material. The problem with the ST engine is that it's just a bored out 2.3T Volvo engine and not the T5 one as is commonly assumed. By boring it out, they massively weakened the cylinder walls meaning they go pop when you start turning up the turbo. You can not safely or reliably go above about 320 at the moment. I come from a Focus forum where there have already been a few unfortunate incidents and dubious warranty claims. I'm not disputing that you can't get 340 from an ST 5pot, but you're running on borrowed time. Apparently the RS engine is much stronger, so perhaps it does stand a chance of keeping up with jonny's ED30...
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i doubt they made a new block for the RS so it must be borrowed from another model (poss Volvo), any ideas where its from
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i doubt they made a new block for the RS so it must be borrowed from another model (poss Volvo), any ideas where its from
The old T5 engine / block from the 850R was super strong as far as I know, could be using that..
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It's definitely an upgraded component, cast from stronger stuff. Like the difference between the S3 head and the GTi one.
As jonny says, it's possible its from a higher spec volvo, the S60R maybe. Although, if it's just being cast from stronger stuff, there'd be no need to retool a new mould, so the cost implications wouldn't be too high for a short run of stronger blocks. Or it might be stronger liners.
The old RS Focus had bespoke components and was built in much smaller volumes - there's no reason why the RS wouldn't have bespoke beefed up components? I had some info about the new engine somewhere, I will try and find the link when I get home.
Should be a fun car though, I'm looking forward to trying one out.
EDIT:
Data from a man on the inside. Ford has updated their parts catalogue... (the numbers don't correspond to the actual turbos, that's just the designation of the engine)
Part no.s for engine blocks:
220ps turbo finis 1388501
300ps turbo finis 1757123
One source says he's sure it's different material as on the S60R, the other thinks it's fundamentally the same block but with uprated liners.
Based on part numbers, these appear to be the other major differences, some obviously go without saying!
Inlet Camshaft
Con-rods and pistons
Main and big end bearings
Head gasket
Injectors
Turbo - still some debate over this as apparently some data suggests it the same one
Inter-cooler
Exhaust system
Fuel pump
Radiator
There is a lot that they do share though. Inlet is the same, exhaust cams, crank shaft, oil pump, water pump to name a few.
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I pretty sure that Ford made a loss of around £6k on each of the Mk1 RS's though and im sure they wont want to repeat that with the Mk2..
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A very valid point!
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a new vid on autocar
http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=238360&CT=V
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somehow I dont think you are going to be disappointed...........
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Ford-Focus-2.5-RS/238343/
What happens when you select second gear and give it full beans in the RS frankly feels like some form of miracle, because even on a rough or wet surface the car takes off without drama, feeling for all the world as if it is four, not two-wheel drive. Considering how much raw thrust there is – Ford claims 0-60mph in 5.9sec, 0-100mph in 14sec dead and a top speed of 163mph – it’s quite weird to begin with. You even wonder whether they’re fibbing about how many wheels are being driven.
Nice link GTIJames :happy2:
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Excellent find, James!
Very attractive car indeed and sounds awesome. It's the only Ford to have, imo.
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Excellent find, James!
Very attractive car indeed and sounds awesome. It's the only Ford to have, imo.
I can think of another. :wink:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fmm104%2Ftomashandmilly%2Fgt40.jpg&hash=1e88014c1d2ebdda9f440a8839465bcd3ad915aa)
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Excellent find, James!
Very attractive car indeed and sounds awesome. It's the only Ford to have, imo.
Ahem....
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.comp.co.uk%2Fgallery%2Fpics%2FFORD%2520RS200%2520MO1810%252010X18.jpg&hash=c0b2316274525140ad89ee44e5d7158e2a53c0ec)
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Ah yes! I overtook one in Austria not long ago : -
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2F17a_FordGT40_Austria.jpg&hash=8b0b0a2d91d53cb935b83fc6b1bee722a7ae781f)
That other F-reg Ford defo NOT to my taste, T_D.
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plato driving the focus on 5th gear tonight :happy2:
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oh my god, i want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, anyone fancy mine, makes ours look abit mundain i have to say.
Id have everything on that car, except they can keep its fuel consumption thankyou very much, and wheres the family mans choice??? 5 door offering??? :sick:
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Yes it looks a lot more 'hardcore' than the GTI/Ed30 but the Ford simply doesn't compete in being a 5-door all-rounder. Judging by your various comments in the forums, Phil, I can't see wifey agreeing to the RS but I think she'd be right regarding your family usage.
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it looks nice but its not a classy as the golf
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it looks nice but its not a classy as the golf
....Absolutely so! The trouble is that use of the term "classy" is often misinterpreted as badge snobbery. But it need not have anything to do with snobbery at all - It just means that the 'classy' car looks more reserved and less in-yer-face. Social standing is a factor and we all initially judge by appearances - It's a part of our natural survival instincts (and helps our choice in which female to chase etc).
The new RS is doubtless a truly great performance car but no Ford is ever "classy". Ford GT40 or Ferrari? Which is classier?
The classiness hierarchy puts Audi above VW above Skoda above Ford, though the Ford RS might be above Skoda.
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Yes it looks a lot more 'hardcore' than the GTI/Ed30 but the Ford simply doesn't compete in being a 5-door all-rounder. Judging by your various comments in the forums, Phil, I can't see wifey agreeing to the RS but I think she'd be right regarding your family usage.
Wife has said to me, the only car she WOULD part ex the ed30 for is the Passat R36 Estate DSG.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs264%2Fphilmcavity%2FPassatR36.jpg&hash=5b7111e381aec255c9f65acb567034c261a36d7b)
she loved our old 170 dsg b6 passat, but we are sort of agree'd as a daily runner, the R36 would be hugely costly to run.
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Seems to be getting good feed back, I mentioned to the wife i'm changing, you'd swore I said to her that i'd sh@gged her sister by her reaction! :evilgrin: But I've time to work on her as I've no idea about the order time as the first batch are sold, so wont really know how long mines going to be.
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it looks nice but its not a classy as the golf
....Absolutely so! The trouble is that use of the term "classy" is often misinterpreted as badge snobbery. But it need not have anything to do with snobbery at all - It just means that the 'classy' car looks more reserved and less in-yer-face. Social standing is a factor and we all initially judge by appearances - It's a part of our natural survival instincts (and helps our choice in which female to chase etc).
The new RS is doubtless a truly great performance car but no Ford is ever "classy". Ford GT40 or Ferrari? Which is classier?
The classiness hierarchy puts Audi above VW above Skoda above Ford, though the Ford RS might be above Skoda.
I think that was a good way to put it.
The RS is never going to perceived as classy as generally only those with a bit of interest in performance cars will appreciate what it is. The rest will find out exactly what it can do when out of ignorance they try to tailgate and overtake and get handed their ass on a plate. :signLOL:
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The RS is never going to perceived as classy as generally only those with a bit of interest in performance cars will appreciate what it is.
....That's exactly it! The RS doesn't actually need to aspire to any 'classiness', it's an out-n-out performance car for enthusiasts but also one which isn't a handful.
I mentioned to the wife i'm changing, you'd swore I said to her that i'd sh@gged her sister by her reaction! :evilgrin:
....So the RS should really be called the SS - Sister Sh@gger!
I think that this new RS may be comparable with the Evo X, though far cheaper!
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The RS is just an unashamed thug.... as much as I hate 5th Gear, I'm really looking forward to seeing the review tonight.
Unless they've given it to smack mouth VBH, then I'll have to turn on the subtitles.
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I think Plato will be driving it - Sticky Vicky would be delightfully giggling too much if making progress in a RS.
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Well Plato seemed to like it, heres the link for those that missed it.....
Wife came in when I was watching and big mouth Plato let me down by mentioning the price, she thought she heard it wrong the first time he mentioned it and had a fit when she heard it the second, so I've got my work cut out in introducing this baby to the driveway.... :sad: :sad:
On the plus side , I've decided that Green is the way to go. :happy2:
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I watched it last night and wanted to hate it but it was awesome. I too loved the green! 8)
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It was the briefest morcel of tastiness, I felt a little short changed - bring on more!
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Looks like something quite special this thing but a well modded ED30 will give it a few things to think about :evilgrin:
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Oh, and did I hear it does 0-60 in 5.9 seconds? How does that compare with a similar power ED30?
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Oh, and did I hear it does 0-60 in 5.9 seconds? How does that compare with a similar power ED30?
I have been trying to figure out my 0-60 time from Santa Pod.. This calculator is pretty accurate in terms of the times I achieved on the day.. And this says that I was at about 4.6 0-60.. I think a high 4 second run would be achievable in reality..
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp
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So, are Ford being coy and understating it... or is it a bit lardy and not capable of more?
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So, are Ford being coy and understating it... or is it a bit lardy and not capable of more?
Thats pretty much what Steve Sutcliffe said in the Autocar review..
To be honest, it should (and will) be faster than that.. 300hp & 330ft/lbs.. Not sure how heavy it is though?
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I'm looking at the RS as a blank canvas, its pulling those figures as standard, £500 on a remap alone should see a marked improvement, and although Johnnys car is an exception, I'd imagine the majority of modded ed30s would struggle with the RS as standard never mind with a remap.
:signLOL: look at me defending the car ive only got a deposit on....... :ashamed:
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I think my suggestion about them being coy may well have some truth in it.. They seem to be not saying much and waiting for all the Journos to talk it up.
Nice marketing ploy. Understate a very anticipated car, hand the keys over to a few important players and let them do the selling for you... it'll become a legend before one even appears on the road.
I can't wait for a go in one.
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I'm looking at the RS as a blank canvas, its pulling those figures as standard, £500 on a remap alone should see a marked improvement, and although Johnnys car is an exception, I'd imagine the majority of modded ed30s would struggle with the RS as standard never mind with a remap.
:signLOL: look at me defending the car ive only got a deposit on....... :ashamed:
Thats what im really looking forward to seeing, how much can be had out of the standard engine / turbo with bolt on parts and re-maps etc etc.. If its 370+ then its going to be an attractive prospect..
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In one of the vids in this thread the lead designer was suggesting that the car is certainly capable of handling more than 300bhp so it is as you've said going to be interesting to see what the tuners come up with.
Ford havent really confirmed the 0-60 time as fact so perhaps it is some kind of ploy, worked on me :signLOL:
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I've just been having a sniff about and can't find much about the "bling" I can see it has uprated brakes over the ST, but what - Brembos like the MKI RS? etc etc..
Is there somewhere linked with all the spec & details?
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http://www.ford.co.uk/cs/ContentServer?cid=1204917964442&pagename=UKEN_ENGInE%2FLayout4&c=Page
link for e brochure..
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as I said in another thread the 0-60 doesnt match the power/torque output and any reasonable weight, so it points to a reduced output in lower gears (or a high 1st gear?)
RS std like you say has potential
modded ED30 is flawed unless you get ALL the areas of deficiency sorted (suspension/LSD/brakes)
whether the RS has much 'headroom' who knows as yet :laugh:
At the mo I like it, but id prefer jonnyc's :evilgrin:
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modded ED30 is flawed unless you get ALL the areas of deficiency sorted (suspension/LSD/brakes)
....Seems very much that way to me too :happy2:
Naturally, I'm interested/pleased to see they have chosen a Quaife mechanical diff for the RS rather than electronic like the forthcoming Mk6 GTI.
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flawed but still awesome RR :grin:
That RS runs on 95 RON ! how did they manage that? 2.5l lower compression I guess? It states that the fuel consumption is taken on 95RON. dunno about the output figures BUT usually you get better mpg on 98+ ?
ED30 maps will run on 95RON but its not recommended and it certainly reduces output considerably.
btw 440 Nm = 325 lbs/ft in old money. Def need to see a power plot for this baby
Blue one for me :happy2:
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Weighs in at 1467kg according to the 'net. A guide at best.
Also, has 336 vented fronts on a single piston caliper - the MKI had 325mm 4-pot Brembos. They've skimped a bit here and with 35% more power and ??kg more weight than the MKI, have they given it a weak link?...
Annoyingly though, it's the only thing I can pull it up on that isn't subjective/cosmetics.
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it sounds like the car suffers with bad turbo lag, but the journo's have said it helps putting the power down!. WTF!!. drinks like a fish by the sounds of it. 15mpg sounds like a good town mpg, if the old ST was getting 18-20. :surprised:
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it sounds like the car suffers with bad turbo lag, but the journo's have said it helps putting the power down!. WTF!!
....Do any modern cars still suffer from turbo lag nowadays?? :surprised: :confused:
I think Plato was saying that the lag gave a welcome opportunity in exiting corners - I don't quite understand that unless you mash the throttle and keep it mashed down.
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Anyone else on here ordered one of these yet????
They seem to be selling well, Ive even heard of people profiting from selling their order on.
I won't be selling mine, Frozen White, Lux Pack and Bluetooth. Reviews have been fantastic and the demand bodes well for future values.
I'm excited. :jumpmove:
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one of the mags stated that the full beans ARE limited in first gear :happy2:
If I had the cash Id be jumping :surprised:
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one of the mags stated that the full beans ARE limited in first gear :happy2:
If I had the cash Id be jumping :surprised:
and it still suffers with torque steer. :happy2:
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one of the mags stated that the full beans ARE limited in first gear :happy2:
If I had the cash Id be jumping :surprised:
and it still suffers with torque steer. :happy2:
so do most powerful fwd cars.
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one of the mags stated that the full beans ARE limited in first gear :happy2:
If I had the cash Id be jumping :surprised:
and it still suffers with torque steer. :happy2:
so do most powerful fwd cars.
i know joe, just that Ford said it doesnt , yet the tests drives in it ,it does.
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I find it difficult to believe it torque steers with Quaife ATB diff.
Which journo's claim it torque steers?
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I find it difficult to believe it torque steers with Quaife ATB diff.
Which journo's claim it torque steers?
i havnt read that it torque steers, all the journos seem to love it, that i read anyway
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I think one reviewer mentioned a slight torque steer, but he was a kinda puny lookin fella.
The general consensus is that it handles brilliantly and 4wd would have spoilt it.
I'm gonna have to stop biggin this car up as i'm in danger of becoming a "fanboy". The positive reviews have really got me looking forward to it, albeit I don't think i'll get a sniff of it until September at the earliest.
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The general consensus is that it handles brilliantly and 4wd would have spoilt it.
....I can well understand that. 4WD/quattro cars have very safe roadholding within the extreme limit but just don't have that tactile edge.
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I find it difficult to believe it torque steers with Quaife ATB diff.
Which journo's claim it torque steers?
as in this video, fast foward to 2mins 45 seconds .... :wink:
http://motoring.sky.com/manufacturers/Ford/Focus_RS/videos/485.aspx
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Cheers, Phil :happy2:
He doesn't seem too bothered by it though.
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Well following on from the opinions on the RS Focus thread and my mulling over the possibility of buying one, I have just placed my order.
I've gone for the White with the Luxury Pack, costs a scarey amount of money for a Ford but I just took a liking to it so thought what the f...k i'll do it. I look at people who live there life full of regrets and say they wish they did it different, well I've decided lifes for enjoying and moneys just paper so im gonna toss some away :grin:
To be honest what its costing isnt all that far off from what I could have spent on mods when you get round to lsd's, brakes, suspension, intercoolers and fuel pumps etc.
I know its not everyones cup of tea but I think it sounds good and seems to be getting very positive feed back.
Have a sound clip on me......... :laugh:
Well done Dave,
It’s the colour I would choose, awesome car buddy :happy2: :happy2: