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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: joesgti on December 13, 2010, 09:01:32 am
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So last night, 11,15pm, i get up off the sofa and go to lock the door, and some guy is stood staring at me!! Im in total shock and start screaming at him 'who the fcuk are you' he turns around and started bolting it out of the house. So i legged it after him! got down to the bottom of the road and caught up and smashed him round the back of the head, he went down, i trip over him, belt him again and pin him down. all the time im thinking WTF is going on, shaking off adrenalin and freezing my tits off, (i had no shoes or socks on lol) so after a few more scuffles i get him on the ground and a neighbour who herd it all sat on his chest and i got his legs and waited for about 10 mins for the police, whilst waiting my neighbours daughter find my car keys in the middle of the road, he was also found with my bankcard and my friends cars keys.
So had a very late night, didnt get much sleep and CSI are on their way round. Jackson my rottweiler has a new home in the conservatory and my shotgun is out of the cabinate and under the bed! :signLOL:
that guy chose the wrong mug to have off!! :angry015:
So people, make sure all your doors are locked when you get in from work, and dont leave it till you go to bed like me. :fighting2:
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Blimey Shameless! Not good!
I thought you were going to come out with a joke, about finding all your advent calendar doors wide open....
What did the Rozzers say?
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fook me mate good on you for smacking the sh1t :fighting:
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nicked him straigh away, had to give a 2hr statement. aparently he was locked up last night aswell.
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Well done for having the balls to chase the fecker! :congrats:
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so they are still stealing R32 then :fighting: had a spurt of it when i had mine :fighting:
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bloody hell Joe that is shocking but well done on catching him..bet your rocky is in the dog house :signLOL:,
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shocking mate
glad u got the barstewards though
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Well done for having the balls to chase the fecker! :congrats:
i didnt even think twice, i stared at him and he took off running, it took a few moments to realise what was going on then i just bolted it after him. I was running behind him for about 50yrds and said 'i can keep goin like this for 5 miles' :signLOL: and i could see he was gettin puffed, so i smashed him :grin:
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Sorry to hear, glad you caught him, I hope he get what he deserves
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Fook me!
I 100% condone what you did, but you might want to edit certain aspects of your post.
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Well done Joe, glad you gave him a hiding before the rozzers arrived! :happy2:
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Fook me!
I 100% condone what you did, but you might want to edit certain aspects of your post.
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X2, whilst I'm with you 100% what you have written could get you into trouble
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Well done mate :happy2: altho agree with the above and maybe edit some of the details, my friend kicked the sh#t out of a guy (in his own house) who was robbing him and he got done for assault :fighting:
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It's a good job your so buff these days Joe! :laugh:
Nah seriously mate that is well scary but glad for once the innocent party came out on top and the scummer got a smack or two in the process!! :happy2: Good man! :notworthy:
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dont need to edit anything, told the rozzers and they said theyd have done exactly the same thing, aparently i made a public arrest. :smiley:
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More the foxhunting kit out of the cabinet, chap :happy2:
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Jeezus H ! Well done on getting the c*nt Joe !!
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dont need to edit anything, told the rozzers and they said theyd have done exactly the same thing, aparently i made a public arrest. :smiley:
Hmm, if he decided to say you assaulted him then it will be a different story, whatever they told you last night they would then need to arrest you, if someone on here grasses on you and they see this thread then you have not used " reasonable force to affect a lawful arrest", i.e he was running away and was not a threat to you but you still smashed him around the head !!, i am sorry but that could get you up in court and found guilty, its up to you of course just my advice, as i said i dont agree with it i am just trying to help
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i think he got away lightly , would of took him on the moors and broke his legs...but thats just me has i have no faith in the justice system at all,he will be out doing community service
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Sholy Hit!!!! :surprised: I also thought this was going to be a joke as I could see the :signLOL: at the bottom of the post whilst reading it..
At least you give him a good slap Joe.. :wink: Is this at your new pad or at your folks?
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Good work on pounding the tosser and stopped him from getting away with anything!
Hopefully the law will do something meaningful but either way hes had a warning not to mess with your property again!
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Good action Joe nice to hear of the thieving scum getting their just desserts. :happy2: :happy2:
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police just been round and apparently he has a massive history of offences and will be looking at a long stretch. Told the police EVERYTHING that happened, they have his shoe prints all over my kitchen, the guy said in 25years of being in the force he has only seen 2 other cases where a burgler has actually been chased by the owner, and they didnt catch them!! :laugh:
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joe glad your ok fella, good on ya :happy2:
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I'm just glad you smacked him! Little tw*t! :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:
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nice one joe!! glad you and all yours are ok!
just will echo the sentiment on here already!! :fighting:
matsu
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Fair play to you, you just know that the justice system will let you down and the little bugger will be out in no time. Even if he does do a stretch its not exactly hard given they get every thing on a plate in prison. Should go back to bread and water and 10hrs of breaking rocks.
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Well done Joe :happy2:
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Sh1t dude.. Took some balls chasing him down,scumbag may have been tooled up.Glad you and yours are ok.. :happy2:
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Sorry to hear this but good on you.
Dont think I would of called the police though.
Would of made a call to a man with a nice van, loaded the scum bag up and gone for a drive and a little chat to see if I could reabilitate him.
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at least your ok and your family . scum bag was he a junkie
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Well done, Joe! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
Get some independent legal advice though. The downside is that a solicitor acting for the scumbag would cite your 'violent' assault (it wasn't self defence) and also that his client had done no more than entering your home uninvited etc and didn't commit any theft (or damage?). Just wanting you to cover all the angles in your best interests. :happy2:
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Fairplay fella... you must have some big kahuna's.... :notworthy:.
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Awesome work Joe! Kudos for catching him. As above, you must have huge cojones!
Obviously running barefoot (which you weren't used to) meant you tripped and stumbled a few times and because you stretched your arms out to break your fall, instead of hitting the ground, your hands hit the back of his head. It stopped you from falling and allowed you to continue chase.
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Top effort Joe. :congrats:
Hope the little tosser is getting bummed to death by the Incredible Hulks big brother as I type. :happy2:
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Top effort Joe. :congrats:
Hope the little tosser is getting bummed to death by the Incredible Hulks big brother as I type. :happy2:
....You don't look quite so scary without your green make-up, Hedge:
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Good on you. :happy2: The adrenalin takes over but then you sit down and think your lucky he didnt pull a gun or a knife though! Glad you caught him and gave him a pasting as part of the bargain though. Hear it far to much about them targetting 32's!
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i was out last night and saw myself this nice looking R32. Thought to myself, nice car, pretty slow but sounds good, hell, why not, think ill go get the keys and have a spin.
Anyway, i go in, get the keys, you'll never believe it though, crazy ba$tard started shouting and chased me off and filled me in though. Selfish git.
:congrats: :congrats:
Get in mate. similar thing happened at ours a few months back. My neighbour caught 2 guys in our carpark in the act of breaking into cars. They sh!t them selves when they were given the good news by about 7 squaddies before the police turned up
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My neighbour caught 2 guys in our carpark in the act of breaking into cars. They sh!t them selves when they were given the good news by about 7 squaddies before the police turned up
....A few years back, a friend who used to be a squaddie then left the services and applied to be a policeman. However, at that time he was refused and the word was that the police wouldn't accept squaddies because they feared their training might prompt too violent a reaction when confronting criminals. I don't know how true that was/is but I understood the logic.
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Well done, Joe! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
Get some independent legal advice though. The downside is that a solicitor acting for the scumbag would cite your 'violent' assault (it wasn't self defence) and also that his client had done no more than entering your home uninvited etc and didn't commit any theft (or damage?). Just wanting you to cover all the angles in your best interests. :happy2:
he took my bank card and both sets of keys for my r32 and my mates mk3 gti that is in the garage.
The funny thing that makes me chuckle a little bit is this... he had my set of keys for my R, he had my mates set of keys for his gti, now my mates gti is in the garage, (easily opened from outside,) but then Kim's (my girlfriend) new beetle was parked infront of the garage door, so the mk3 couldnt move as the beetle was blocking it in anyway, the funny part is that he was trying to rob kims 2.0 beetle auto with my r32 keys, all the time my r32 was parked round the corner off the drive on the road!! so it was a huge FAIL!! he could ov had a nice r32 and been off, instead he came back in the house looking for the beetle keys!! :grin: :grin: then he got tw@tted!! :grin: :grin:
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That's good news - I missed the bit about him stealing various keys and card (if indeed you posted the info). :happy2:
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A few years back, a friend who used to be a squaddie then left the services and applied to be a policeman. However, at that time he was refused and the word was that the police wouldn't accept squaddies because they feared their training might prompt too violent a reaction when confronting criminals. I don't know how true that was/is but I understood the logic.
Not true at all, there is quite a large percentage of policeman and fireman who are ex forces. the majority of guys leaving the forces to become policeman will have served over 22 years and likely be into their 30s, so should be well past that stage anyway. The only restriction i've heard of is armed response, due to the forces 'shoot to kill' policy, compared to the police's 'shoot to disable' policy.
As for the logic, Were normal people here, im a fully qualified electrician with a degree, so were not all nutters pal :happy2:
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A few years back, a friend who used to be a squaddie then left the services and applied to be a policeman. However, at that time he was refused and the word was that the police wouldn't accept squaddies because they feared their training might prompt too violent a reaction when confronting criminals. I don't know how true that was/is but I understood the logic.
Not true at all, there is quite a large percentage of policeman and fireman who are ex forces. the majority of guys leaving the forces to become policeman will have served over 22 years and likely be into their 30s, so should be well past that stage anyway. The only restriction i've heard of is armed response, due to the forces 'shoot to kill' policy, compared to the police's 'shoot to disable' policy.
As for the logic, Were normal people here, im a fully qualified electrician with a degree, so were not all nutters pal :happy2:
....So it's just Carl who's the nutter then :evilgrin:
My friend was only in his 20s and I think had been in a very active section according to his dad. But no offence intended by my logic comment. :happy2:
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:happy2: nice one, this almost happened to me, knock at door, ignored it, then bang, they kicked the door in. saw like 5 guys, shouted "OI" at them and they all ran off... into a Audi RS6 of all things :-\
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:happy2: nice one, this almost happened to me, knock at door, ignored it, then bang, they kicked the door in. saw like 5 guys, shouted "OI" at them and they all ran off... into a Audi RS6 of all things :-\
....What's the betting they'd recently nicked the RS6! :fighting:
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....So it's just Carl who's the nutter then :evilgrin:
Wouldn't be my way of phrasing it. :surprised:
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crazy man joe , but well done :pomppomp: and glad youre ok :happy2:
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...caught up and smashed him round the back of the head, he went down, i trip over him, belt him again and pin him down...
OK, devil's advocate time. How would you have felt if your smash around the back of the head had resulted in the death, or serious injury of the person?
I'm rather surprised by the attitudes shown here. I'm clearly in a minority here, but I don't think you should be given hero status for what you did. I'm obviously glad that no harm came to you, or indeed your victim, but really, your actions sound unnecessary.
I'm not saying we should allow ourselves to be violated by criminals, but chasing someone down the road and exacting needless violence is not right in my opinion, especially when they are running away from a confrontation.
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top man jo , our streets need cleansing of sh*t like that , you should get a badge :laugh:
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all due respect mate, scum got a kicking for going into someones house!!! as for running away from confrontation??? he f**kin walked into into it.!!!get a grip
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...caught up and smashed him round the back of the head, he went down, i trip over him, belt him again and pin him down...
OK, devil's advocate time. How would you have felt if your smash around the back of the head had resulted in the death, or serious injury of the person?
I'm rather surprised by the attitudes shown here. I'm clearly in a minority here, but I don't think you should be given hero status for what you did. I'm obviously glad that no harm came to you, or indeed your victim, but really, your actions sound unnecessary.
I'm not saying we should allow ourselves to be violated by criminals, but chasing someone down the road and exacting needless violence is not right in my opinion, especially when they are running away from a confrontation.
....I can totally see your point, Andrew, and I think that many of us here are applauding Joe for making a citizen's arrest rather than solely the 'assault'. However, the sad fact is that the Police, often unfairly blamed, don't always catch the criminal in break-ins. Add to this that the courts aren't strict enough about custodial sentences and the public understandably want to see some form of 'justice' done even if it tends towards no trial.
Us lot here are also emotionally driven by, and our judgement is clouded by, our love of our cars.
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Fair play mate :congrats:
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I can see Andrew's point, but if Joe hadn't chased him, then Joe would now have no keys to his R32 and be looking to cancel his cards. As it is he made a citizen's arrest and no-one was unduly hurt in the process - apart from the thief's ass later in jail maybe :laugh:
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...caught up and smashed him round the back of the head, he went down, i trip over him, belt him again and pin him down...
OK, devil's advocate time. How would you have felt if your smash around the back of the head had resulted in the death, or serious injury of the person?
....Hmm, in spite of my last post (Reply #51), on the specific point I quote from your post, I'm now thinking that I personally don't think I'd be at all upset if I seriously injured someone who had entered my property uninvited with the premeditated intention of stealing from me and possibly doing me physical harm in the process. If they accidentally lost their life as a result, I can't say I'd think it was my fault.
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...caught up and smashed him round the back of the head, he went down, i trip over him, belt him again and pin him down...
OK, devil's advocate time. How would you have felt if your smash around the back of the head had resulted in the death, or serious injury of the person?
....Hmm, in spite of my last post (Reply #51), on the specific point I quote from your post, I'm now thinking that I personally don't think I'd be at all upset if I seriously injured someone who had entered my property uninvited with the premeditated intention of stealing from me and possibly doing me physical harm in the process. If they accidentally lost their life as a result, I can't say I'd think it was my fault.
Hmm, I really expected more from you Robin. I know we all really work hard for our possessions, but that's all they are, possessions. And allowing our judgement to be clouded, to the point where the loss of human life is negligible is abhorable in my opinion.
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...caught up and smashed him round the back of the head, he went down, i trip over him, belt him again and pin him down...
OK, devil's advocate time. How would you have felt if your smash around the back of the head had resulted in the death, or serious injury of the person?
....Hmm, in spite of my last post (Reply #51), on the specific point I quote from your post, I'm now thinking that I personally don't think I'd be at all upset if I seriously injured someone who had entered my property uninvited with the premeditated intention of stealing from me and possibly doing me physical harm in the process. If they accidentally lost their life as a result, I can't say I'd think it was my fault.
i agree with you completely here robin , that was my thoughts but did nt say it
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...caught up and smashed him round the back of the head, he went down, i trip over him, belt him again and pin him down...
OK, devil's advocate time. How would you have felt if your smash around the back of the head had resulted in the death, or serious injury of the person?
....Hmm, in spite of my last post (Reply #51), on the specific point I quote from your post, I'm now thinking that I personally don't think I'd be at all upset if I seriously injured someone who had entered my property uninvited with the premeditated intention of stealing from me and possibly doing me physical harm in the process. If they accidentally lost their life as a result, I can't say I'd think it was my fault.
Hmm, I really expected more from you Robin. I know we all really work hard for our possessions, but that's all they are, possessions. And allowing our judgement to be clouded, to the point where the loss of human life is negligible is abhorable in my opinion.
....I'm just being very honest about how I think I would react. I know that these are only material possessions but it's the principle of someone very intentionally violating my peace which causes me to be so 'war like'. Knowing myself, I also already know that I have a violent streak if prompted hard enough - It may not be what society judges as right but it's there and I'm not unique in this way.
I don't actually view human life as any more important than any other form of life - We are just another species. But my point is the principle of being subjected to such events which are unprovoked personal attacks rather than defending the possessions themselves.
EDIT: I'd just like to make it clear that when I say "If they accidentally lost their life as a result, I can't say I'd think it was my fault", I mean truly an accident and not a case of 'accidentally-on-purpose'. In other words I wouldn't set out to take a life but if their life was lost, so be it.
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Andrew,
If a 'Scum' takes the risk to burgle/rob etc another persons property, then they 'should' accept any consequence as they put themself in that position ! (otherwise not do it). Your attitude, right or wrong, is exactly the reason why homeowners 'can' be prosecuted for injuring a 'Scum' in their house, or for robbing their property. This should NOT be the case and no grey are should exist in this matter. Homeowners should be allowed to defend their own property and possessions..... Period !!
I'm sick of reading stories about a man or woman that has been prosecuted for injuring such 'Scum' for robbing their house.
I would not by the way, be happy to see someone killed, but if the 'Scum' knew the risks before entering innocent peoples houses, then they might think more than twice about doing it.
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Glad all the good guys were fine Joe :happy2: Must have been nice to get your hands on him and bravery points for going after the scumbag :drinking:
It's good you've got some sound neighbours too for future reference.
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If a 'Scum' takes the risk to burgle/rob etc another persons property, then they 'should' accept any consequence as they put themself in that position ! (otherwise not do it). Your attitude, right or wrong, is exactly the reason why homeowners 'can' be prosecuted for injuring a 'Scum' in their house, or for robbing their property. This should NOT be the case and no grey are should exist in this matter. Homeowners should be allowed to defend their own property and possessions..... Period !!
Mark, re-read Joe's original post. He says the perpetrator ran away, he chased him, and proudly kicked the sh*t out of him. I'd agree completely if there was a physical confrontation in the property. In that instance I'd support what he did.
You guys do realise that people commit crime for very different reasons don't you?
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Yes , I understand that he was chased. But in a highly stressfull situation like that you may find yourself chasing someone, without even thinking about it. Humans have an inbuilt 'fight or flight' system that you CAN'T control. Only 'after' that kind of event do you realise what has happened.
Everyone is different, and you should not be punished for your 'genetic make up'
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You guys do realise that people commit crime for very different reasons don't you?
....Indeed, of course. But are you suggesting that it was because the perpetrator was able to justify such invasive actions?
Fortunately we, in the UK, are not living in a part of the world where survival depends on taking what's needed to survive and in an environment where law has totally broken down or ceased to exist.
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Everyone is different, and you should not be punished for your 'genetic make up'
And in that, you may have proved my point
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Having been the victim of a similar crime and having had my lovely stage 2 Octy stolen and t(h)rashed I can only applaud Joe's actions. I think as long as you leave them breathing enough to answer questions then everything else is fair game.
Should the unfortunate happen, oh well the dirty scumbag can't ruin someone elses life.
Harsh but I didn't start it, whatever the excuses.
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You guys do realise that people commit crime for very different reasons don't you?
....Indeed, of course. But are you suggesting that it was because the perpetrator was able to justify such invasive actions?
Let's get this straight, I don't think in any circumstance anyone can justify taking another person's possessions, regardless of their personal plight.
However, and as you have pointed out, we don not live an environment where law has totally broken down or ceased to exist. And as such it is up to our law to judge a person's actions.
Would Joe have felt any remorse had the person been living below the poverty line, struggling to feed his children, and provide a roof over their heads?
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Having been the victim of a similar crime and having had my lovely stage 2 Octy stolen and t(h)rashed I can only applaud Joe's actions. I think as long as you leave them breathing enough to answer questions then everything else is fair game.
Should the unfortunate happen, oh well the dirty scumbag can't ruin someone elses life.
Harsh but I didn't start it, whatever the excuses.
Extremely devoid of any morals and basic intelligence.
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Yes , I understand that he was chased. But in a highly stressfull situation like that you may find yourself chasing someone, without even thinking about it. Humans have an inbuilt 'fight or flight' system that you CAN'T control. Only 'after' that kind of event do you realise what has happened.
Everyone is different, and you should not be punished for your 'genetic make up'
....Agreed, and we all have just read about Joe's 'genetic make up'. I also think that our real-life reactions are influenced by our upbringing and family background, and it works both ways. Many criminals wouldn't be so if their parents or school had punished them properly - And yes, I do mean by physical punishment, however unfashionable or non-PC it is to say so. Mind you, in spite of being beaten 3 strokes at public school for belching loudly during an evening meal, I still belch occasionally.
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Having been the victim of a similar crime and having had my lovely stage 2 Octy stolen and t(h)rashed I can only applaud Joe's actions. I think as long as you leave them breathing enough to answer questions then everything else is fair game.
Should the unfortunate happen, oh well the dirty scumbag can't ruin someone elses life.
Harsh but I didn't start it, whatever the excuses.
Extremely devoid of any morals and basic intelligence.
How nice of you to judge me your holiness. :notworthy:
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You guys do realise that people commit crime for very different reasons don't you?
....Indeed, of course. But are you suggesting that it was because the perpetrator was able to justify such invasive actions?
Let's get this straight, I don't think in any circumstance anyone can justify taking another person's possessions, regardless of their personal plight.
However, and as you have pointed out, we don not live an environment where law has totally broken down or ceased to exist. And as such it is up to our law to judge a person's actions.
Would Joe have felt any remorse had the person been living below the poverty line, struggling to feed his children, and provide a roof over their heads?
....I really don't know how Joe would have felt and I very much doubt he knows for certain - We are all different individuals.
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Having been the victim of a similar crime and having had my lovely stage 2 Octy stolen and t(h)rashed I can only applaud Joe's actions. I think as long as you leave them breathing enough to answer questions then everything else is fair game.
Should the unfortunate happen, oh well the dirty scumbag can't ruin someone elses life.
Harsh but I didn't start it, whatever the excuses.
Extremely devoid of any morals and basic intelligence.
How nice of you to judge me your holiness. :notworthy:
....I was just about to say similarly, Hedge.
Andrew, how can you judge? Have you ever met Hedge - You'd remember if you had.
Let's not let this discussion sink into insulting each other.
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@ Andrew:
I'm understanding in re-reading your posts that you're not excusing the attempted theft but that you feel strongly about a victim's physical reactions if it harms the perpretator in (?)any(?) way.
UK law is meant to reflect society's views and currently in such matters I don't think it does. It's too far down the road of what's called political correctness and everyone's 'rights'.
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You guys do realise that people commit crime for very different reasons don't you?
Would Joe have felt any remorse had the person been living below the poverty line, struggling to feed his children, and provide a roof over their heads?
well steal from a supermarket, steal from a corner shop, thats where food is. Also this is why we have a benefits system
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@ Andrew:
I'm understanding in re-reading your posts that you're not excusing the attempted theft but that you feel strongly about a victim's physical reactions if it harms the perpretator in (?)any(?) way.
UK law is meant to reflect society's views and currently in such matters I don't think it does. It's too far down the road of what's called political correctness and everyone's 'rights'.
Agreed, please people dont get my posts in this thread wrong, what i wrote was to protect Joe, as for the scumbag well i would have a way of dealing with it and i would keep it to myself :evilgrin:
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Having been the victim of a similar crime and having had my lovely stage 2 Octy stolen and t(h)rashed I can only applaud Joe's actions. I think as long as you leave them breathing enough to answer questions then everything else is fair game.
Should the unfortunate happen, oh well the dirty scumbag can't ruin someone elses life.
Harsh but I didn't start it, whatever the excuses.
Extremely devoid of any morals and basic intelligence.
How nice of you to judge me your holiness. :notworthy:
Andrew, how can you judge?
The basis of two very bold statements. He gave me something pretty solid to go off, but really, I don't mean any offence.
I'm obviously a very different person to all of you. I believe in compassion and understanding, and I don't place much importance in my possessions. I don't believe that people are born 'bad'. My Father is a Barrister, and as such he has seen people from all different walks of life commit crime, whether rich or poor. The one thing he always taught me, is that people need to be judged individually. It's all to easy to 'classify' people as 'scum' without really understanding where they have came from.
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Robin, way too deep to go into, but if UK Law really reflected the view's of our society then we'd be royally f*cked.
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Well done joe for standing your ground, the main thing is, that you didn't get Hirt, these people have no morals and could of been carrying anything that could of Hirt you.
Easy to see Red in that situation, hope you don't get in trouble for Flooring the guy.
If this guy is known as a repeat offender, then the old bill will be less likely to defend him when it comes to an assult plea
Hope you still have a relaxing Christmas with your family, and not be on edge .
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The basis of two very bold statements. He gave me something pretty solid to go off, but really, I don't mean any offence.
I'm obviously a very different person to all of you. I believe in compassion and understanding, and I don't place much importance in my possessions. I don't believe that people are born 'bad'. My Father is a Barrister, and as such he has seen people from all different walks of life commit crime, whether rich or poor. The one thing he always taught me, is that people need to be judged individually. It's all to easy to 'classify' people as 'scum' without really understanding where they have came from.
....I can understand and respect that. It's "Don't judge someone until you've walked a mile in their moccasins" or shoes.
I don't think it's either too far-fetched or unreasonable to assume that the perpetrator (using a more neutral term than "scumbag") in Joe's case was not starving and needing to look after his family - As Sy said, he could have attempted to rob a food store. We don't know, but such an attempted theft is most likely to be either for personal gain (his gain at innocent Joe's expense) or to finance a drug habit. I emphasise that we don't know but not all those in very poor circumstances resort to entering people's homes and stealing.
If they do so, they must face the consequences, be it an extremely angry victim, a fierce dog, or the law. If you can't stand the heat, don't go in the kitchen.
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Robin, way too deep to go into, but if UK Law really reflected the view's of our society then we'd be royally f*cked.
.... :laugh: Yes, that's a whole different can of worms! You hopefully understood the principle of what I meant though. I was trying not to write a thesis. :happy2:
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Good on you. :happy2: The adrenalin takes over but then you sit down and think your lucky he didnt pull a gun or a knife though! Glad you caught him and gave him a pasting as part of the bargain though. Hear it far to much about them targetting 32's!
Mate of mine lost his dad to a very similar story, chased the guy down the street with a golf club the robber turned round and threw a knife which went into his neck ever since that day this sh*t scares me i dont think i would have been chasing fair play to you mate, cock suckers!
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Don't know what all the fuss is about, have you met Joe? He'd struggle to floor a new born kitten! :signLOL:
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^^^^^. wasn't he the guy in the Mr muscle tv add?
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Don't know what all the fuss is about, have you met Joe? He'd struggle to floor a new born kitten! :signLOL:
....Yes, I'm thinking that the guy can't have been someone the size of Hedge or Thor for example. Mind you, I have angrily chased someone in a van who knocked off my wing mirror (not on the GTI) and then found myself facing a huge bear of a guy when he got out the van. Fortunately, being both locals, we knew of each other and I stopped being angry and he stopped denying it and willingly paid the pro workshop who replaced it. I was lucky!
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imo... anyone who breaks the law in this way knowingly takes the responsiblity upon themselves and should get what they deserve"!! unfortunaltey the law has been so processed by do gooders and political correctness that the whole country is scared to do what is right as a society and therefore there is no consequence to any wrongdoing!
we can clog up joes thread with this discussion or we can allow everyone else to :congrats: :congrats: him
we can start another tread on the law and what we think of it... ill look forward to posting in that one.
i deal with people of all ages/creed religions everyday and what not and we all somehow come to the same conclusion about the majority of the governments decisions and the law in general. there is just no common sense...
if he hadnt broken into joes home he would have gotten a kicking and wouldnt have been arrested end of!!
end of rant lol
matsu
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Don't know what all the fuss is about, have you met Joe? He'd struggle to floor a new born kitten! :signLOL:
....Yes, I'm thinking that the guy can't have been someone the size of Hedge or Thor for example. Mind you, I have angrily chased someone in a van who knocked off my wing mirror (not on the GTI) and then found myself facing a huge bear of a guy when he got out the van. Fortunately, being both locals, we knew of each other and I stopped being angry and he stopped denying it and willingly paid the pro workshop who replaced it. I was lucky!
Not always about size though is it RR, it's probably more to do with how many screws the individual have loose rattling around in the empty space of a head! :signLOL:
Andrew I think your going to be pretty much on your own on this one, but I'd envisage the world would be a nicer place if more people were like you! :happy2:
I on the other hand have a very short temper and would have happily kicked two shades of sh1t out of him!! :ashamed:
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Everyone is different, and you should not be punished for your 'genetic make up'
And in that, you may have proved my point
Now your contradicting yourself. You said people 'are not' born bad (in other words, robbing is nowt to do with genetics).
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lmao at andrewparker :grin: nobody cares, go to bed :indifferent:
didnt really expect this thred to have such a reaction and have a certain somebody try and convince people that the c*nt deserves to leave without punishment! how will he ever learn his lesson, you cant walk into peoples houses and take things, and run away, then expect to get away with it. Every policeman ive spoke to today in the CSI department said they would have done far worse damage to him.
oh and the paper want to come and take a photo of me :laugh: :laugh: best get the pikey vest out!! :signLOL:
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Sorry, I was meant to infer that your point about everyone being judged on an individual basis was correct, not unfairly classified as 'scum', without knowing the full story.
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Don't know what all the fuss is about, have you met Joe? He'd struggle to floor a new born kitten! :signLOL:
i resemble that comment!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
ive been in the gym again!! :signLOL:
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lmao at andrewparker :grin: nobody cares, go to bed :indifferent:
I wasn't having a go at you Joe, it's all healthy discussion as far as I, and I'm sure a few others here, are concerned.
However, if you want to be immature about it then I'll leave it alone.
Oh and congrats, you should have stamped on the f*ckers head until his brain bled, then laughed in his mothers face at his funeral. At least he didn't get your R32!
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I personally have done much worse than what Joe did to the "perpetrator" in the past. I still do not regret it as I have had worse done to me for no reason at all!. Sometimes people need a good damn thrashing to get through to them, sometimes a collar felt by the old bill is more than enough, either way what ever happens, happens and it cannot be undone. What we have to do is make our own judgement about what is right and what is wrong. If we feel it is justified, then there will be no remorse or pity. It is when we know we have done wrong in our own minds that we feel remorse.
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Oh and congrats, you should have stamped on the f*ckers head until his brain bled, then laughed in his mothers face at his funeral. At least he didn't get your R32!
Now you've seen the light. :notworthy: :notworthy:
Damn there's my loose moralled, unintelligent side coming out again. :ashamed:
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im sure lots of us on here have fallen on hard times and not resorted to nicking r32s! what joe did took balls, could have gone wrong! but didnt, because of that the scum is not in your or my house tonight. so yeah, well done joe :congrats:
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Andrew I think your going to be pretty much on your own on this one, but I'd envisage the world would be a nicer place if more people were like you! :happy2:
Thanks, I think! I'm on a one man mission to promote the positive aspects of human nature, a bit of compassion, a bit of altruism, instead of all the fear and aggression!
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Andrew I think your going to be pretty much on your own on this one, but I'd envisage the world would be a nicer place if more people were like you! :happy2:
Thanks, I think! I'm on a one man mission to promote the positive aspects of human nature, a bit of compassion, a bit of altruism, instead of all the fear and aggression!
but if the world was more like you then the tw@ts wouldnt be about in the fist place!
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Yeah, did I say I was an idealist too? :grin:
Perhaps he world is a little too far gone for my notions :signLOL:
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:congrats: in the end of the day i don’t think if joe had shouted stop can we talk about this he would have stopped and said aw sorry mate i got the wrong house i thought it was mine and then they have a cup of tea.... in the end of the day he was blatantly trying to steal the car end off. now there are that many organised gangs about doing this its not about feeding families or struggling to live its just blatant in your face ( Litrially ) :signLOL: robbery. now if someone was trying to steal my gti i wouldn’t want to kill him as that’s a tad to extreme but no one can defend his motive and as joe did he would have at least got a bloody good smack
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I built up nerves and adrenaline just reading that!
Yea, i think the first reaction and shock of seeing someone like that in your house is f*cking scary, especially just getting up off the sofa, (like seeing a ghost but worse) and being so scary your adrenaline is so high, doesn't matter how brave you are, you just sort of lash out and scream and attack!!!
Arrggggg kill the feckerrrr :evilgrin: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:
Well Done mate - certainly would be a great leader and inspiration in battle :drinking:
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All I'll add is he and all his mates know where Joe lives, the scrote will probably take this one on the chin but for the people who say they would have taken him off somewhere. This is someone who has been in your house. There's always someone bigger, harder and more psychotic (maybe not to the hard hitting keyboard warriors of this forum but certainly harder than your loved ones) and a criminal especially one with time under their belt is more likely to know them. Bloke I know had his car stolen to order unfortunately they stole the wrong one, they wanted money off him to give it back, threatened his family, knew where she worked, where his kids went to school, everything.
Hats off to you for tackling them though Joe, you are a braver man than me, I cowered in the house and called the police when some bad men knocked on my door a few years back wanting my car. I think you got it spot on, gave him a bit of a roughing up and called the law. :happy2:
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Andrew,
I'll say one more thing on this then thats it. I hate the thought of anyone getting in my house for whatever reason, I have a wife in the house too and this is the thing, family, kids, elderly parents are all at risk from these thieves/robbers. They might just go in for car keys or some cash etc but what if your not home ? Your family is at risk. So, its nice to hear one got caught and should get locked up etc, not that he took any injurys.
I could tell you a story about a bloke who cornered a burglar and pinned him down until the Police eventually arrived. The house owner took many blows to the head, even so, he managed to hold on and the scum was done for burglary and assault. Shortly after the house owner had a stroke and died later. Caused by the incident could we say, at 50+ yrs of age ? (I know the daughter of this poor chap)
I respect what you have been saying, .....situations change personally and financially for everyone. But I know I wont ever be out robbing anyone ever, whatever happens.
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he was on his own and clearly shocked to see me! i live in a detatched house but the ground floor and upper are 2 seperate flats, i live on ground floor. theres an 80 year old woman who lives upstairs, and an 83 year old woman next door. not that that really matters but it fueld anger! :fighting:
rich, as you say i absolutly sh!t myself. i got up off the chair, put the dog in his room, and walked into the kitchen, and there he was. stood in the hall in the doorway to the hall. i first (for a brief second) thought he was a friend or electric man fr some reason :stupid: he was stood about 6 feet away from me at this point.
the next part almost seems like a blur in stop motion :laugh: ...... he turned around and started walking away, i screamed 'who the fcuk are you', it felt like no words came out of my mouth, like an instant rush of adrenalin, (later when i told kim she said it was very very loud) (my whole body is shaking now just remembering it), so as soon as i shouted that, he nailed it out of the door and i just launched after him. caught up with him by the end of the drive (50 yrds) and jumped over the fence bare foot, lol. i got behind him and i instantly thought and said 'i can keep this up for 5 miles lad' :signLOL: whilst also shouting, stop, and lots of other things that i wont repeat. so i tried tripping him and almost sent myself ass over tit. then chased him wilst still shouting (the whole of the street was looking out by now) and decided you punch him (hard) round the back off the head, he went down, had a little tussle on the floor :innocent: then pushed him against a garden fence, and held him there, kim turned up about 20 seconds later (she was on the toilet :signLOL:) and he went for her, so me and an neighbour held him on the ground for about 10 mins and waited for the police. they found my bank card on him and my car keys and my friends car keys in the road.
he admitted everything later today and didnt even make bail acording to police.
if anybody has a problem then they kindly suck my balls. :xmaspresent:
oh and soz for the long post, just thought id share. :smiley:
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Shocking to read this! so glad u caught the scumbag though. Was just speaking to my dad and his friend got woken up by some banging last night looked out his window and 2 blokes was trying to get through his front door they see him and started to run he chased them but they got away! cost him £500 to repair the door. Anyone tries breaking into my house and they will be feeling what a 12bore beretta feels like!
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The old rabbit punch eh! Banned from boxing for a very good reason.
I hope you all respect my opinion on this, just as I respect yours.
But remember, violence breeds voilence, it's not the 'answer'.
All IMO of course.
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Your right Andrew but thats what laugauge this people understand,its not the right way to do things
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Well Done mate - certainly would be a great leader and inspiration in battle :drinking:
HA!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Joes GTI inspirational leader. :xmassmiley: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
In all seriousness i would have sh*t myself, and would have been happy seeing him run off, but if he hadn't i would quite happily have jumped on him and preceded to bit his face off bit by bit until he lay still. :confused:
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fair play joe glad it worked out. personally i wouldnt do this again as when my ex-girlfriend got mugged once for her hand bag i chased the scum and got knifed, 7 stitches. we had our flat burgled a couple of times but never caught them but if they were in the house obviously youd want them out but you have to be careful i guess, theres a lot of psychos about :chicken:
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fair play joe glad it worked out. personally i wouldnt do this again as when my ex-girlfriend got mugged once for her hand bag i chased the scum and got knifed, 7 stitches. we had our flat burgled a couple of times but never caught them but if they were in the house obviously youd want them out but you have to be careful i guess, theres a lot of psychos about :chicken:
sh*t! :surprised: where did you get stabbed? it didnt even click till the next day that he may ov had a knife.
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when we lived in hammersmith was right out side our flat, she was getting the keys out of her bag when they jumped on us both from behind. i chased them about 50 yards and got right up to them when one of them turned round and stuck a blade in my hand i thought he was just swinging a punch and didnt even relise id been stabbed but it as very deep and i was lucky that it healed with out too much damage. as you say its only afterwards that you think about it i guess as in the heat of the moment its all a bit mad! glad your ok tho joe :happy2:
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All sounds very hectic Joe, good job you stayed up late I had my house broken into while I was in bed asleep clearly after car keys as they only took PS3 and some booze but the house two doors down lost Range Rover, door gets locked the moment I get into the house now, people keep on bleating on about risk of getting trapped inside during a fire etc, but now a days your more likely to get robbed so door stays locked. :fighting:
And its a good jjob you did go after him or the car keys and potentially the car would be gone and fitting new locks to 3 cars and reprogramming immobilisers aint cheap as im sure you know from your KO4 conversion.
As mentioned just hope the guy gets a good stretch and doesnt take offence to your actions once he is back out! :fighting:
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im on the front page of the local paper :ashamed:
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im on the front page of the local paper :ashamed:
Vigilante Joe. Scan it in. :grin:
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im on the front page of the local paper :ashamed:
Come on, wheres the headlines!!!, another forum user makes front page news :innocent:
Well done though :happy2:
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im on the front page of the local paper :ashamed:
Vigilante Joe. Scan it in. :grin:
coming up now....
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LMFAO!
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LMFAO!
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Well done mate :xmassmiley:
TV appearance then??
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Fookin hell Joe, who's stubble is that?
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:congrats:
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Fookin hell Joe, who's stubble is that?
Its the Grey hair im more shocked about!
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After watching the X Factor I'd give Mike Tyson a slap!! :rolleye:
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that photo is proper funny, you could have cleaned yourself up :signLOL:
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haha, they called me this morning when i was at work, havnt had a hair cut for about a month and needed a shave!! he wouldnt take no for an answer though and called me 4 times since last night. i look like the bloody theif!! :laugh:
at least im on the front cover for something good this time!! :innocent: last time i took out 50 meters of railings and brought carlisle to a standstill for 4 hours!! :grin:
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Fookin hell Joe, who's stubble is that?
His cats! :signLOL:
That is proper funny Joe you scruffy scally! :grin: :grin:
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Never had you down as a X Factor fan Joe :wink:
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That pic is funny but snippet of 2010 must go to TC
but if he hadn't i would quite happily have jumped on him and preceded to bit his face off bit by bit until he lay still.
Ive now got a sticky space bar after spraying it with me brew
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That pic is funny but snippet of 2010 must go to TC
but if he hadn't i would quite happily have jumped on him and preceded to bit his face off bit by bit until he lay still.
Ive now got a sticky space bar after spraying it with me brew
Thats sick :sick:
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Does that mean your g/f will be buying you a razor for xmas :xmaspresent: :signLOL:
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lmao!! kim said, 'is that you?' :grin:
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Dude... well played :congrats:
I had to square up to someone at the start of the year on my driveway, i care not about whats morally right or wrong, if someone violates you then a reaction is called for.. simples
its just a measure of how much, he who hits hardest hits last etc etc
you could have gone to town on this fella once you decked him, you didnt, thats restraint... no one will prosecute you for what youve done :happy2:
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Joe, that picture is priceless, I have been pissing myself for the past 5 minutes! :xmassmiley:
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Joe, that picture is priceless, I have been pissing myself for the past 5 minutes! :xmassmiley:
lmao!! give me a call, :happy2:
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Quality Joe :congrats:
So that's 2 forum members that have made the front page of the media :jumpmove: Don't remember mine saying hero though.. :ashamed:
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So that's 2 forum members that have made the front page of the media :jumpmove: Don't remember mine saying hero though.. :ashamed:
....You're our hero though, Ben :congrats: - Not because of what you got caught doing but because of the way you faced up to the consequences and didn't let it beat you.
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So that's 2 forum members that have made the front page of the media :jumpmove: Don't remember mine saying hero though.. :ashamed:
....You're our hero though, Ben :congrats: - Not because of what you got caught doing but because of the way you faced up to the consequences and didn't let it beat you.
Aaaah, cheers Robin.. :ashamed: :happy2:
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So that's 2 forum members that have made the front page of the media :jumpmove: Don't remember mine saying hero though.. :ashamed:
....You're our hero though, Ben :congrats: - Not because of what you got caught doing but because of the way you faced up to the consequences and didn't let it beat you.
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Red butt licker Robin. :booty: :laugh:
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:signLOL: - More pearls from that swine called Top Cat :happy2:
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sh*t the bed scary stuff!! :surprised:
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None of us know exactly how we would act if/when confronted with a situation like this, I think we all have an idea of how we would like to act and this will differ from person to person, who says whats right and whats wrong :smiley:
Personally I'm proud of you Joe :happy2:
Although its you that needs a slap watching and admitting to watching the X factor :laugh:
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None of us know exactly how we would act if/when confronted with a situation like this, I think we all have an idea of how we would like to act and this will differ from person to person, who says whats right and whats wrong :smiley:
Personally I'm proud of you Joe :happy2:
Although its you that needs a slap watching and admitting to watching the X factor :laugh:
cheers gaz, if the truth be known i was actually wathcin 'the only way is essex' :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :ashamed:
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Oh, shut up! :grin:
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None of us know exactly how we would act if/when confronted with a situation like this, I think we all have an idea of how we would like to act and this will differ from person to person, who says whats right and whats wrong :smiley:
....Absolutely spot on! :happy2:
I've had a gun pulled on me three times, a knife at my throat once, and reacted differently in each case.
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None of us know exactly how we would act if/when confronted with a situation like this, I think we all have an idea of how we would like to act and this will differ from person to person, who says whats right and whats wrong :smiley:
....Absolutely spot on! :happy2:
I've had a gun pulled on me three times, a knife at my throat once, and reacted differently in each case.
Was this at GTI meets or when you had a BMW. :evilgrin:
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I've had a gun pulled on me three times, a knife at my throat once, and reacted differently in each case.
Was this at GTI meets or when you had a BMW. :evilgrin:
.... :signLOL: :laugh: :signLOL: Your wit is so good, TC :notworthy: You really could make a living out of it.
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Robin, that wasn't a gun that I had pointed at your back - it was only my hand in the shape of a gun. I didn't think you'd take it that seriously! :P
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That pic in the paper is all well and good, but have you thought that now all his mates know exactly what you look like and where to find you! :scared:
Till you have a shave and dye your hair again :signLOL:
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haha, nope, theres no address in the paper and nobody knows where i live now, ive just moved. already had a hair cut and a shave! i look 5 years younger :signLOL:
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haha, nope, theres no address in the paper and nobody knows where i live now, ive just moved. already had a hair cut and a shave! i look 5 years younger :signLOL:
..............have the rozzers put you in a ''safe'' house? :signLOL:
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already had a hair cut and a shave! i look 5 years younger
....Then the police will keep stopping you due to suspecting you for driving under age :evilgrin:
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haha, nope, theres no address in the paper and nobody knows where i live now, ive just moved. already had a hair cut and a shave! i look 5 years younger :signLOL:
I like your style :laugh:
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