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Title: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on December 16, 2010, 10:50:25 am
had this done yesterday, the first ever service that i actually felt any difference in my car.

the box is now so much smoother!

Well worth the £150
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: mackit on December 16, 2010, 10:59:50 am
Is that the DSG oil change and was that at a VW dealer?
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Post by: Weston on December 16, 2010, 11:10:27 am
Is it basically just an oil change or is there more to it?
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Post by: 182_blue on December 16, 2010, 11:16:03 am
I dont know but perhaps they reset the box when doing the service, this will make it feel different
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: vRS Carl on December 16, 2010, 11:47:02 am
From when i had mine done the mechanic told me it was an Oil Change followed by a full reset of the box. This is why it takes them about 2 hours to do as they have to get the oil up to a certain temp, drain it, refill with fresh oil, get it up to a certain temp again then carry out the reset and the sequence of tests they have to do.

Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on December 16, 2010, 01:59:40 pm
I was waiting with they did it, what they didn't tell me when I booked it is that the car needs to be cold before they can start which added on 45mins to my wait time!
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: vRS Carl on December 16, 2010, 02:04:44 pm
I'm just going off what they told me. I spoke to the technician that did it and that was the process he explained unless i mis-understood the first part.

But i'm pretty sure that's what he said as he was talking me through the reset on the box using VCDS.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: bacillus on December 16, 2010, 02:30:42 pm
iirc there is also a filter change with the dsg service.  :smiley:
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: micaerin on December 16, 2010, 02:33:42 pm
I was waiting with they did it, what they didn't tell me when I booked it is that the car needs to be cold before they can start which added on 45mins to my wait time!
i was also told they had to wait until it was cold before they could start
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: bacillus on December 16, 2010, 02:34:07 pm
Here's what is used for the dsg service:
• DSG filter
• DSG O-Ring
• DSG fluid (6 liters)
• OEM Sealing washers
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on December 16, 2010, 02:52:36 pm
I will be getting it done ever 20,000miles from now on.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: swf7y on December 16, 2010, 03:27:16 pm
If the box is reset, will it effect boxes that have the Revo software?
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on December 16, 2010, 03:34:21 pm
They reloaded the ecu back onto the dsg box as I asked but I don't think this is a normal process. So the map should be ok
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: Richn83 on December 16, 2010, 03:59:31 pm
I got told it had to be cold as well, but TT insists it should be warm so that all the contaminants are in suspension, otherwise you risk leaving it in the gearbox.  Its also not a reset, its a re-adaption of the basic settings, so nothing is done with the map on the DSG ECU it just goes through the process of re-learning the clutch bite points gearchange points etc etc.  So Revo software wont be affected, hence you can do the adaptation yourself with VCDS.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: RedRobin on December 16, 2010, 06:04:24 pm
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Getting my third DSG service done in January at 90k miles. It will be my second DSG service at VWR - It was done as a matter of course when they installed my Quaife diff. I also have Revo's DSG remap.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: swf7y on December 16, 2010, 07:02:31 pm
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Getting my third DSG service done in January at 90k miles. It will be my second DSG service at VWR - It was done as a matter of course when they installed my Quaife diff. I also have Revo's DSG remap.

How much do VWR charge? I'd prefer to get mine done by them. I don't trust stealers one bit.  :fighting:
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on December 16, 2010, 07:08:47 pm
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Getting my third DSG service done in January at 90k miles. It will be my second DSG service at VWR - It was done as a matter of course when they installed my Quaife diff. I also have Revo's DSG remap.

How much do VWR charge? I'd prefer to get mine done by them. I don't trust stealers one bit.  :fighting:

the reason i went with VW is that any future warranty claims i may have to make in relation to the DSG box i would like to be able to say, its been serviced on time and with you.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: RedRobin on December 16, 2010, 07:25:01 pm
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Getting my third DSG service done in January at 90k miles. It will be my second DSG service at VWR - It was done as a matter of course when they installed my Quaife diff. I also have Revo's DSG remap.

How much do VWR charge? I'd prefer to get mine done by them. I don't trust stealers one bit.  :fighting:


....I don't know what VWR charge. If it's not on the forum's section about member discounts it might be on their web site, or a phone call to them will tell you - 01908 210088.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: RedRobin on December 16, 2010, 07:28:06 pm

How much do VWR charge? I'd prefer to get mine done by them. I don't trust stealers one bit.  :fighting:

the reason i went with VW is that any future warranty claims i may have to make in relation to the DSG box i would like to be able to say, its been serviced on time and with you.


....VWR are fully approved by Volkswagen UK to service your VW and will stamp your handbook:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FVWR_ServiceStamp.jpg&hash=107eccd5311c2cb3dafd4268b0f79ed78b73ccdc)
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: swf7y on December 16, 2010, 07:38:02 pm


....I don't know what VWR charge. If it's not on the forum's section about member discounts it might be on their web site, or a phone call to them will tell you - 01908 210088.
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Cheers Red  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on December 16, 2010, 07:48:01 pm

How much do VWR charge? I'd prefer to get mine done by them. I don't trust stealers one bit.  :fighting:

the reason i went with VW is that any future warranty claims i may have to make in relation to the DSG box i would like to be able to say, its been serviced on time and with you.


and the fact im in Preston, far far away  :signLOL:

....VWR are fully approved by Volkswagen UK to service your VW and will stamp your handbook:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FVWR_ServiceStamp.jpg&hash=107eccd5311c2cb3dafd4268b0f79ed78b73ccdc)
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: RedRobin on December 16, 2010, 08:10:28 pm
@ Edd:

....I don't even know where Preston is, let alone how far from VWR Milton Keynes but I'm 170 miles away from them and I still go there.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: Top Cat on December 16, 2010, 08:14:26 pm
There is no reason why any VW garage cant do a DSG oil change. Its just a simple process to follow, and remember they are doing lot's and lot's of these everyday. Just cross your finger's.  :rolleye:
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: RedRobin on December 16, 2010, 08:56:20 pm

There is no reason why any VW garage cant do a DSG oil change. Its just a simple process to follow, and remember they are doing lot's and lot's of these everyday. Just cross your finger's.  :rolleye:


....Absolutely  :happy2:. My VW dealer did my first DSG service and didn't cock it up.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on December 18, 2010, 11:26:48 am
VWR did mine recently and its a pretty straight forward process.  Over and done with in about an hour....
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: celica on December 28, 2010, 10:38:45 pm
if getting an indy to do, is it best ask them what procedures they go through etc.?

what's the best or standard oil?
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on December 28, 2010, 10:53:37 pm
an indy???


you have to use dsg specific oil, 6 bottles i think
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: celica on December 30, 2010, 09:38:16 am
an indy - non dealer, but deals with VAGs alot, is what I have used in the past

I know he's done DSG services before as a friend had his done there etc.

Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: Madlil on March 19, 2011, 04:15:50 pm
Had my DSG service today (car 4 years old with 28k miles), and what a difference!

Before the service the gearbox was quite jerky from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd in manual mode - it is so smooth now, and the downchanges feel quicker too.

Well worth the £169 at VW Harrogate. Had the coil packs changed for free too.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: golf nutter on March 20, 2011, 09:49:45 am
as a bit of a newbie wanting to get back into a vw...would you guys recommend a dsg, generally?  from the things you are saying, i am assuming they are reliable so long as the oil is changed regularly?  does the dsg box blip the throttle on downshifts?  thanks.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: edd666999 on March 20, 2011, 09:37:52 pm
as a bit of a newbie wanting to get back into a vw...would you guys recommend a dsg, generally?  from the things you are saying, i am assuming they are reliable so long as the oil is changed regularly?  does the dsg box blip the throttle on downshifts?  thanks.

id do a search on this subject as its like asking if you like marmite.

the throttle is blipped yes.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: JackG on March 20, 2011, 10:45:35 pm
To be honest I would only ever get my dsg box done at a main dealer,
It's not as simple as a normal transmission fluid change by any means, it does have to be done via 50/52 as the oil in the box has to reach a certain temp, and mainly they take 6L and it HAS to be proper dsg oil, I had mine done whilst having my mechatronics done under warranty  :wink:
I can't really say it feels better as it's all now different lol, it's nice to get it done tho!
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: bacillus on March 20, 2011, 11:05:34 pm
I had mine done whilst having my mechatronics done under warranty  :wink:

Did you ask them to change the filter at the same time? Normally with a new mechatronics they just change the oil.
Title: Re: DSG service
Post by: JackG on March 21, 2011, 06:46:40 am
I had mine done whilst having my mechatronics done under warranty  :wink:

Did you ask them to change the filter at the same time? Normally with a new mechatronics they just change the oil.

Yes I did, I had to pay for filter tho but I thought I may as well have it done